NBA Thread now in 2015

eeriepadave

tempo_n_groove said:

eeriepadave said:

Poncier said:

Doubt the Warriors will win 80 games, so Sixers will have more losses.

wow you think the sixers are gonna lose 80 games? 70 possibly, 75 is stretching it i think.

10 and 72?!?

well at the rate their going, 10-72 is a good possibility (although they won the other night)

polaris_x

blatt fired ... winning 11 of 13 games not good enough apparently!

Jason P

polaris_x said:

blatt fired ... winning 11 of 13 games not good enough apparently!

This could be the first time a coach has been fired when he is leading the conference in standings.

Lebron must have done this ...

JimmyV

Bill Russell won two titles in three years as a player coach. Why pretend anyone other than LeBron is the coach now? Missing a chance to pad your legacy, coach killer.

Amongst the Ani

Same day Blatt is fired Kerr anounces he is back. Coincidence???????

cutz

JimmyV said:

Bill Russell won two titles in three years as a player coach. Why pretend anyone other than LeBron is the coach now? Missing a chance to pad your legacy, coach killer.

If you believe the reports from ESPN, LeBron James had nothing to do with this. Even if he did, who cares?

TL170678

cutz said:

JimmyV said:

Bill Russell won two titles in three years as a player coach. Why pretend anyone other than LeBron is the coach now? Missing a chance to pad your legacy, coach killer.

If you believe the reports from ESPN, LeBron James had nothing to do with this. Even if he did, who cares?

It`s shady business. Kind of like firing McHale a couple games into the season after rallying in the playoffs vs LAC, losing to the champs in the WCF. Rockets obviously over-achieved last year since they are battling to be .500.....
Just shows that unless you win a championship your jobs not safe.
Hell Grizz fired their coach after taking the Grizz to the WCF, Bulls fired Thibs after he overachieved, now they can`t play offense and are middle of the pack in the East, Warriors fired Mark Jackson after he helped build a great team and upset Denver, then Denver fired Karl who was coach of the year. I love the NBA, but most ownership has no integrity. I could not imagine dealing with front office dickheads.
I like how Jerry Colangelo came to Philly, said you dickheads know nothing about basketball, get me Dantoni and Ish! Now they look decent. Does anyone in the front office actually believe anyone is going to stay to rebuild that they have drafted if they do no see progress....

JimmyV

cutz said:

JimmyV said:

Bill Russell won two titles in three years as a player coach. Why pretend anyone other than LeBron is the coach now? Missing a chance to pad your legacy, coach killer.

If you believe the reports from ESPN, LeBron James had nothing to do with this. Even if he did, who cares?

I do not believe the reports from ESPN.

Wobbie

there's life in the NBA thread!

mrussel1

As a die hard Cleveland guy who has watched basically every game for the last two years, I'm okay with this termination. First, of course the organization knew that LBJ would support this. That doesn't mean he was called prior, but my guess is that ownership knew the answer.
Second, the rotations were a mess. One week TT starts, the next Mozy does. And how can you EVER have a scenario in the first quarter where Lebron, Love and Kyrie are all sitting? Doesn't make sense but it happened all the time. And Mo Williams hasn't seen the floor in two weeks. He is basically the 3rd PG (and maybe should be the 2nd... better scoring than Delly but not as good defensively). He needs to get in there on occasion. The rotations were screwy. I won't even start on Love's usage.

Last, I agree with Lue's assessment of the team being out of shape. They are and it was clear against Chicago when they pushed the pace. Cleveland is a far better team out in space than in a half court set. Lebron and Kyrie should push the ball on all misses and anytime they can inbound quickly. We will get much better shots and easier offensive boards that way.

Blatt never really connected with the team and that is important.

polaris_x

it's hard to connect with a mutiny ... haha ...

not sure how you can justify sacking a coach that went to the NBA finals in his rookie year, is currently leading the eastern conference and recently won 11 of 13 games ...

that's where the GM and owner are basically being bullied by lebron ... probably why lebron left miami because he couldn't bully pat riley ...

mrussel1

polaris_x said:

it's hard to connect with a mutiny ... haha ...

not sure how you can justify sacking a coach that went to the NBA finals in his rookie year, is currently leading the eastern conference and recently won 11 of 13 games ...

that's where the GM and owner are basically being bullied by lebron ... probably why lebron left miami because he couldn't bully pat riley ...

The Cavs had far superior talent than anyone else in the East. Going to the Finals wasn't a great achievement. Plus, Lue was the number one assistant and he was almost offered the job originally. Now you can argue that it was a mistake to have Lue as an assistant to Blatt considering the high regard Lue is held around the league and that he learned offense from Doc and defense from Tom T., but that would have been a mistake my management, not Lebron.
I'm thrilled that Dan Gilbert is doing EVERYTHING he can to bring us a title. He is not settling for a good coach, or a good #3 PG. He is paying an obscene luxury tax but every decision they make is to try to get better.

polaris_x

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

it's hard to connect with a mutiny ... haha ...

not sure how you can justify sacking a coach that went to the NBA finals in his rookie year, is currently leading the eastern conference and recently won 11 of 13 games ...

that's where the GM and owner are basically being bullied by lebron ... probably why lebron left miami because he couldn't bully pat riley ...

The Cavs had far superior talent than anyone else in the East. Going to the Finals wasn't a great achievement. Plus, Lue was the number one assistant and he was almost offered the job originally. Now you can argue that it was a mistake to have Lue as an assistant to Blatt considering the high regard Lue is held around the league and that he learned offense from Doc and defense from Tom T., but that would have been a mistake my management, not Lebron.
I'm thrilled that Dan Gilbert is doing EVERYTHING he can to bring us a title. He is not settling for a good coach, or a good #3 PG. He is paying an obscene luxury tax but every decision they make is to try to get better.

hey ... if that's what you think ... sure ...

not sure how lue can build up a reputation since he's only been coaching for like 2 years ...

i don't doubt dan gilbert wants a championship - just not sure letting the inmates run the asylum is the right way to go about it ...

mrussel1

He's been on a staff since he retired from playing in 2009.

ldent42

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polaris_x

I guess Pop is the next coach to get fired!

mrussel1

polaris_x said:

I guess Pop is the next coach to get fired!

You have had to watch Blatt to understand. The offensive sets were basic. Too many simple pick plays, too many iso's, and not able to get Love on the elbow often enough. Any time the Cavs were 10 seconds into an offensive set, it was death. They looked great when running a quick play out of transition.

polaris_x

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

I guess Pop is the next coach to get fired!

You have had to watch Blatt to understand. The offensive sets were basic. Too many simple pick plays, too many iso's, and not able to get Love on the elbow often enough. Any time the Cavs were 10 seconds into an offensive set, it was death. They looked great when running a quick play out of transition.

hey ... I hear ya ... it's no different than the raptors who I watch a lot too ... but outside of San Antonio and GSW - that's what most teams employ now ... Love is a role player now - he needs a pass first pg but when the offense moves through lebron and kyrie - he's essentially a ryan anderson type ...

the cavs are 5th in offensive rating and 6th in defensive rating ... you can nitpick all you want but the dude was delivering on what he was hired to do ... has there ever been a coach with his success that's been fired like that? ... if not - it's because they aren't supposed to be ...

guy got the cavs to game 6 of the nba finals without 2 of his best players ...

Jason P

Reports are the Blake Griffen broke his hand hitting a team staffer. Someone is about to get paid.

mrussel1

Jason P said:

Reports are the Blake Griffen broke his hand hitting a team staffer. Someone is about to get paid.

It was a staffer? Holy crap. That is quite bad.