i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
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i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
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I'm trying not to judge but you are clearly insane if you don't like RVM jams!
My favorite RVM jam is Grand Rapids 06 or San Diego 06.... love love love it!
I wish they would extend the mini-jam they do on "Insignificance". I love the jamming!
I think most of my fav RVM jams have been posted. But, I felt the need to defend Boom a bit. I think his solo on Crazy Mary from gorge 05 is spectacular! and I love his jam from In my tree from Philly 05 is also awesome. Go BOOM!
i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
I agree wholeheartedly actually. Their jams often don't have much melody or atmosphere... they're pretty much just noise in a particular key.
BUT, their extended solos like on Black, 1/2 Full, and Evenflow and their tags to the end of songs like Wishlist and Daughter are AMAZING. They need to do more stuff like that. But yeah, the noise-jams need to go. The RVM on L@tG is the low point of that DVD if you axe me.
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i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
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i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
disagree. i love the jamming... its just one of many elements you receive at a PJ show. the band is very versatile, but is still able to have a distinct identity.
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I took a friend with me to MSG 03 who was a huge music fan with a lot of punk background ... but not necessarily a huge PJ fan.
He said he thought the whole show was pretty damn good, and that it made him undestand why so many people say they are such a great live band ...
But THEN he said, "That being said, REARVIEW MIRROR IS DEFINATELY THEIR BEST LIVE MOMENT."
I'm not saying i agree that RVM is their crown jewel ... but if you take an "outsiders" opinion with any heft, you certainly can't say the jams suck ... cause they seem to move the average joe.
And ... remembering Porch, and Blood, and random jams that just pop up all over the place ... i have to disagree personaly as well.
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with that being said, they are not like Phish, or the Dead, or any of Les Claypools 9,647 projects, or any other jam band for that reason. They do what they do in a more structured way and dont practice that nearly as much as the aformentioned bands.
are hte great at jamming? no, not really, but they can do it, and it is good when they do.
this is what I was going to say, when you compare their "jamming" with bands you would classify as "jam bands" then pearl jam doesn't measure up. but I don't really think they are trying to be a "jam band" during songs like porch, crazy mary, RVM, etc. i think what they do fits on those songs, now if they tried turning Go into a 10 minute song, that might not be such a great idea.
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What about crazy mary I think from one of the gorge shows, and it seemed Boom would do something then Mike would copy it and Vice versa. It was cool,
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I gotta respond again here b/c I am confused abou why you like PJ live?
The jams are a big part of why they got such a great rep for being awesome live! And the fact that they change up the set lists. I think they could put a few popular ones to bed for a few years but thats a different discussion.
I have seen a lot of other bands who will play the same freaking set list over and over and only play the songs the exact same way everytime.
Fuck that.....boring!
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I have to say I completely disagree, and I'm shocked u used RVM as ur example!! This is my favourite ever live song, not much on the studio album, but live it just blows me away!
The 2006 tour was the first time I heard it in person and I rocked SO hard to that jam!!
I started clapping, and according to the people I was with, so did everyone else in the arena! Hehe that's my favourite moment. I completely lose myself during that jam, incredible!
i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
I'll gladly send you RVM from Acer Arena, Sydney Australia 18/11/06 to prove that the jam in this song is worthwhile.
i love the ambient waffling in rvm (live), porch etc. makes even more poignant when it kicks back in. but i love instrumental music anyway, a 12min explosions in the sky epic is pretty common listening on my ipod.
as for crazy mary, i love the solo interplay of mike & boom
i personally can't stand when they jam on rvm. plus i don't want to hear three or four minutes of noise during crazy mary either. while boom might add a certain dynamic to other songs (those with keys in the studio versions) his "solo" during crazy mary is abysmal.
take away those five to ten minutes of worthless jamming and give me other songs. hell. i'll even go so far as to say i'd rather hear wishlist or sweet lew.
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I gotta respond again here b/c I am confused abou why you like PJ live?
The jams are a big part of why they got such a great rep for being awesome live! And the fact that they change up the set lists. I think they could put a few popular ones to bed for a few years but thats a different discussion.
I have seen a lot of other bands who will play the same freaking set list over and over and only play the songs the exact same way everytime.
Fuck that.....boring!
I love Pearl Jam for who they are, what they play, and how they play it!
Rock on boys!!!!
i believe pearl jam got their live reputation for being an outstanding band in a live setting. they weren't really "jamming" until later on (and by jamming i mean extended musical improvisations during songs).
i believe pearl jam got their live reputation for being an outstanding band in a live setting. they weren't really "jamming" until later on (and by jamming i mean extended musical improvisations during songs).
they are plenty of early shows where they 'kicked out the jams' and did some sweet-ass improvs...
with their catalogue being as big as it is now, i would prefer some of the jams (specifically the even flow "jam"/drum solo) to be shorter...
even that isn't really going to leave much room for another song or two unless ed cuts down on his speeches.
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I'm trying not to judge but you are clearly insane if you don't like RVM jams!
My favorite RVM jam is Grand Rapids 06 or San Diego 06.... love love love it!
I wish they would extend the mini-jam they do on "Insignificance". I love the jamming!
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I agree wholeheartedly actually. Their jams often don't have much melody or atmosphere... they're pretty much just noise in a particular key.
BUT, their extended solos like on Black, 1/2 Full, and Evenflow and their tags to the end of songs like Wishlist and Daughter are AMAZING. They need to do more stuff like that. But yeah, the noise-jams need to go. The RVM on L@tG is the low point of that DVD if you axe me.
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I've Got A Feeling from Boston III '94
and
Porch from Atlanta '94
are exactly what I mean. absolutely FANTASTIC.
and Jeff is normally great during RVM jams. simple, quiet, but he knows when to play and plays it well.
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disagree.
He said he thought the whole show was pretty damn good, and that it made him undestand why so many people say they are such a great live band ...
But THEN he said, "That being said, REARVIEW MIRROR IS DEFINATELY THEIR BEST LIVE MOMENT."
I'm not saying i agree that RVM is their crown jewel ... but if you take an "outsiders" opinion with any heft, you certainly can't say the jams suck ... cause they seem to move the average joe.
And ... remembering Porch, and Blood, and random jams that just pop up all over the place ... i have to disagree personaly as well.
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this is what I was going to say, when you compare their "jamming" with bands you would classify as "jam bands" then pearl jam doesn't measure up. but I don't really think they are trying to be a "jam band" during songs like porch, crazy mary, RVM, etc. i think what they do fits on those songs, now if they tried turning Go into a 10 minute song, that might not be such a great idea.
Find shapes in the clouds.
Hear the murmur of the wind
and touch the cool water.
Walk softly,
we are intruders,
tolerated briefly
In an infinite universe.
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The jams are a big part of why they got such a great rep for being awesome live! And the fact that they change up the set lists. I think they could put a few popular ones to bed for a few years but thats a different discussion.
I have seen a lot of other bands who will play the same freaking set list over and over and only play the songs the exact same way everytime.
Fuck that.....boring!
I love Pearl Jam for who they are, what they play, and how they play it!
Rock on boys!!!!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
The 2006 tour was the first time I heard it in person and I rocked SO hard to that jam!!
I started clapping, and according to the people I was with, so did everyone else in the arena! Hehe that's my favourite moment. I completely lose myself during that jam, incredible!
"The live shows? Well, that's church on Sundays"
I'll gladly send you RVM from Acer Arena, Sydney Australia 18/11/06 to prove that the jam in this song is worthwhile.
This one is awesome!
i love the ambient waffling in rvm (live), porch etc. makes even more poignant when it kicks back in. but i love instrumental music anyway, a 12min explosions in the sky epic is pretty common listening on my ipod.
as for crazy mary, i love the solo interplay of mike & boom
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I just LOVE the circus sounding organ! What's wrong with having a circus atmosphere at a concert?
It reminds me of The Doors, or maybe Elvis Costello a little. Very Kewl!
My second favorite organ sound next to the gospel church sound.
even though some fans dont like that comparison.
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i agree with him also...to some extent.
i absolutely hate Even Flow now.
Crazy Mary in Cleveland '03 was pretty good.
RVM...depends.
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wow. how tasteful.
i wouldn't listen to many people's opinions on music from this board..
i believe pearl jam got their live reputation for being an outstanding band in a live setting. they weren't really "jamming" until later on (and by jamming i mean extended musical improvisations during songs).
they are plenty of early shows where they 'kicked out the jams' and did some sweet-ass improvs...
with their catalogue being as big as it is now, i would prefer some of the jams (specifically the even flow "jam"/drum solo) to be shorter...
even that isn't really going to leave much room for another song or two unless ed cuts down on his speeches.
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