Flu Shots
unsung
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I avoid them. Why? Check out these stories about their ingredients. The best part is that we all have the right to choose, for now anyway.
http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well- ... e-flu-shot
“You have 100 million viruses sprayed up the nose, along with other things like MSG (monosodium glutamate) and sugar, which causes inflammation. And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vac ... ients.html
Type of Ingredient Examples Purpose
Preservatives -Thimerosal- (only in multi-dose vials of flu vaccine) To prevent contamination
Adjuvants -Aluminum salts- To help stimulate the body’s response to the antigens
Stabilizers -Sugars, gelatin- To keep the vaccine potent during transportation and storage
Residual cell culture materials -Egg protein- To grow enough of the virus or bacteria to make the vaccine
Residual inactivating ingredients -Formaldehyde- To kill viruses or inactivate toxins during the manufacturing process
Residual antibiotics -Penicillin, sulfa drugs- To prevent contamination by bacteria during the vaccine manufacturing process.
http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2013/04 ... 80630.html
Meanwhile, health authorities like the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continue to refuse to warn the public against the dangers of flu shot ingredients like Thimerosal, citing “lack of evidence”.
http://www.merckmillipore.com/chemicals ... ch+results
http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well- ... e-flu-shot
“You have 100 million viruses sprayed up the nose, along with other things like MSG (monosodium glutamate) and sugar, which causes inflammation. And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vac ... ients.html
Type of Ingredient Examples Purpose
Preservatives -Thimerosal- (only in multi-dose vials of flu vaccine) To prevent contamination
Adjuvants -Aluminum salts- To help stimulate the body’s response to the antigens
Stabilizers -Sugars, gelatin- To keep the vaccine potent during transportation and storage
Residual cell culture materials -Egg protein- To grow enough of the virus or bacteria to make the vaccine
Residual inactivating ingredients -Formaldehyde- To kill viruses or inactivate toxins during the manufacturing process
Residual antibiotics -Penicillin, sulfa drugs- To prevent contamination by bacteria during the vaccine manufacturing process.
http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2013/04 ... 80630.html
Meanwhile, health authorities like the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continue to refuse to warn the public against the dangers of flu shot ingredients like Thimerosal, citing “lack of evidence”.
http://www.merckmillipore.com/chemicals ... ch+results
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They have a fairly low success rate, yet as soon as the weather starts getting cool all the news outlets start pushing them. I'm guessing there are some kickbacks out there to be so heavily promoted when they barely do anything.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I smoke and drink, and get the flu maybe once a year
I dunno...when my niece and nephew were growing up, it seems like they were catching something every other week, getting prescribed antibiotics, and continuing to catch the same or similar bug over and over.
Me - grew up with no antibacterial soap/wipes, no antibiotics, just a (Flintstones) multivitamin and the dreaded spoonful of cod liver oil.
Again, got the flu maybe once a year.
So yeah...fortunately I'm not in an at-risk group and will forgo the shot.
(and honestly, this has NOTHING to do with my fear of needles
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
You're eating MUCH worse stuff than that every day. Sugar and Gelatin? That's in your advil and multi vitamin.
Honestly...
When you don't get the flu shot, you're not just potentially making yourself sick (and don't laugh, flu viruses can kill even healthy young people), you can pass it on to an elderly person or a baby and kill them. Or pass it on to a pregnant woman and kill her baby.
"And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans."
And I'll bet every one of you eats bread, pasta, muffins, eggs... pretty much every day.
And somehow none of you are dead of Avian Retrovirus.
Why do you think that is? :fp:
thanks POD, I was going to post something similar, but you nailed it.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
yeah, and I'm sure you've never done any of this:
1. Stay away from processed meats like bacon, hot dogs, and sausage. Sodium nitrate accounts for their appetizing red hue, but this additive can also cause the formation of nitrosamines in your system, which can lead to cancer.
2. Stick to low-mercury fish like American-farmed tilapia instead of swordfish or tuna. Overexposure can cause memory problems, fatigue, and other health issues, and besides, most wild fish stocks are threatened these days. (Looking for an alternative? There’s branzini, the fish you’ve never heard of.)
3. Reduce the amount of canned food you consume. Cans are commonly lined with bisphenol-A, an organic compound that, according to the Lang study, may be associated with diabetes and heart disease.
4. Cut back on meat and dairy products. These animal products may contain trace amounts of harmful contaminants like polybrominated diphenyl ethers, polychlorinated biphenyl and dioxins. Although many of these toxins have been banned, they are still present in the soil. Reducing your intake of animal products is also more friendly to the environment.
5. Skip the diet soda and artificial sweeteners. Prolonged exposure to aspartame, a neurotoxic chemical additive in these products, can lead to nerve cell damage, dizziness, and headaches. Besides, anything that gives rats brain tumors is worth avoiding in my book.
6. Choose the farmed fish carefully. Studies show that farm-raised fish contain more polychlorinated biphenyl and over ten times the amount of dioxin.
7. Opt for organic chicken. The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy discovered traces of arsenic in non-organic chickens. Exposure to this dangerous chemical can lead to cancer, diabetes and heart disease. Another study also found numerous antibiotic-resistant bacteria in conventional poultry.
8. Only drink milk that says “no rBGH” on the carton because recombinant bovine growth hormone has been linked with breast cancer. Better yet, opt for responsibly-produced, unsweetened soy, nut or rice milk.
9. Avoid manufactured snacks. Hydrogenated oils are used to lengthen the shelf life of products like crackers and cookies, but they are also associated with diabetes and heart disease. Another reason to stay away from the middle aisles: snack foods are generally loaded with salt, corn syrup and other unhealthy ingredients.
10. Stay away from artificially-colored foods like candy, maraschino cherries, and gelatin. Mice and rats exposed to blue 1 and 2, red 3 and yellow 6 suffered from brain, adrenal gland, thyroid, and kidney tumors.
11. Always buy organic produce. This one’s a no-brainer, but the list wouldn’t be complete without it. Lingering pesticides can lead to nervous and reproductive system damage, not to mention cancer.
12. Use stainless steel or cast iron cookware to prepare your meals. The Teflon used to create nonstick surfaces can release noxious gases when exposed to high temperatures, which puts you at risk for heart disease.
13. Never microwave food in plastic bowls, containers, or dishes. Exposure to heat causes the bisphenol-A found in plastics to break down and potentially contaminate your food. Also, make sure to hand wash them.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I was curious, and per the Mayo Clinic:
Who shouldn't get the flu shot?
Check with your doctor before receiving a flu vaccine if:
You're allergic to eggs. Some flu vaccines contain tiny amounts of egg proteins. If you have an egg allergy or sensitivity, you'll likely be able to receive a flu vaccine — but you might need to take special precautions, such as waiting in the doctor's office for at least 30 minutes after vaccination in case of a reaction. There's also a flu vaccine that doesn't contain egg proteins, Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved for use in people age 18 and older. Consult your doctor about your options.
You had a severe reaction to a previous flu vaccine. The flu vaccine isn't recommended for anyone who had a severe reaction to a previous flu vaccine. Check with your doctor first, though. Some reactions might not be related to the vaccine.
(and unsung, I'm probably going the cremation route, but that made me laugh)
you already have. Many times.
Right... so it's possible - but rare - for people to be allergic to one of the ingredients.
There are also people who are allergic to nuts. But I'm guessing you're not advocating staying away from nuts for everyone?
there are also people who are allergic to things like Penicillin. But I sure hope you don't advocate everyone staying away from those. I'm allergic to Mycin drugs. So I stay away from those and use penicillin.
There are also people who can't drive... but I'm willing to bet you have a car.
Not sure how you made that conclusion or where the driving thing fits in.
You've had small pox, measles, hopefully Rubella... I had Hepatitis last spring when there was an outbreak in the gay community. They ALL have those ingredients and they're safe unless you're allergic to them.
And the flu virus is a LOT more dangerous.
But I'm guessing that since conservatives and libertarians are all against the things the Obamas are for... health care... eating healthy.... water... You're against this. Because "freedom."
Well you seem to be suggesting that because some people have bad reactions, that nobody should take it.
Well, some people have died by MANY things... including driving in a car... and yet it's the suggestion that people should take the flu vaccine if they can is somehow bad.
Maybe I'm not reading what you're writing properly.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Never did I say that what I choose for myself should go for everyone else. Never.
Nope ... Not afraid of needles, like I said personal choice.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
personal choice.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Getting allergy injections for a number of years will cure that.
When we watch movies with scenes involving needles it's always me going, "OK, dear, they're done with that scene now, you can look."
Nope.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
nobody says you "have to."
But you should because it's not only healthier for you but you'll keep from helping spread an epidemic across the country where many people aren't able/can't afford the shot.
And really... your "personal choice" is to be very sick and lose work for three days, or have a shot that takes a few seconds.
Honestly... it seems like a rather odd trade off to me.
And if you've seen my arms, you know that needles aren't things that scare me at all.
I have never felt so sick in my life. My whole body was riddled with painful muscle spasms, I was unable to sleep or even get comfortable but I was so weak I was barely able to walk the 14 feet from my bed to the toilet.
I was unable to eat, wasn't able to focus on things and couldn't read or work from my bed. The humiliation of being a 42 year-old man having to have his husband drive him to the doctor and practically carry me up to his office was... not something I want to experience again.
It was horrible. Nothing like getting the flu as a kid where you just felt very sick and barfed a bit.
There is no law that says you have to get a flu shot. But I always do now because I never want to feel like that again. I was genuinely scared I was going to die. And if I was maybe 20 years older than I am now... that would have been a very real possibility.
There is nothing in the flu shot that you don't inject regularly anyway (unless, like me, you're vegan and don't eat eggs or gelatin) and you can't get sick from it unless you are a rare case that has severe allergies to the shot. Even then there are good alternatives for people like us.
The belligerent, cut off your nose to spite your face attitude of "I don't want the government telling me I have to do something" reminds me of the people who race their motorcycles at 80 MPH with no helmet wearing t-shirts and cut off shorts because they think that somehow putting themselves in great danger of death makes them more "free."
People confuse me.