Flu Shots

unsung

I avoid them. Why? Check out these stories about their ingredients. The best part is that we all have the right to choose, for now anyway.




http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well- ... e-flu-shot

“You have 100 million viruses sprayed up the nose, along with other things like MSG (monosodium glutamate) and sugar, which causes inflammation. And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vac ... ients.html


Type of Ingredient Examples Purpose
Preservatives -Thimerosal- (only in multi-dose vials of flu vaccine) To prevent contamination

Adjuvants -Aluminum salts- To help stimulate the body’s response to the antigens

Stabilizers -Sugars, gelatin- To keep the vaccine potent during transportation and storage

Residual cell culture materials -Egg protein- To grow enough of the virus or bacteria to make the vaccine

Residual inactivating ingredients -Formaldehyde- To kill viruses or inactivate toxins during the manufacturing process

Residual antibiotics -Penicillin, sulfa drugs- To prevent contamination by bacteria during the vaccine manufacturing process.



http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2013/04 ... 80630.html

Meanwhile, health authorities like the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continue to refuse to warn the public against the dangers of flu shot ingredients like Thimerosal, citing “lack of evidence”.

http://www.merckmillipore.com/chemicals ... ch+results

know1

I think they're a scam designed to funnel even more money to the pharmaceutical companies.

They have a fairly low success rate, yet as soon as the weather starts getting cool all the news outlets start pushing them. I'm guessing there are some kickbacks out there to be so heavily promoted when they barely do anything.

JimmyV

I take public transportation to and from work everyday. Commuters crammed like sardines into train cars. Sneezing everywhere, uncovered coughs everywhere, surrounded by all manner of germs. No shot is going to protect me in that environment. Sometimes I get sick. It happens. I am fortunate (knock on wood) it does not happen often.

Last-12-Exit

I'm the first one in line when my employer offers them. I rarely got sick growing up. Around the age of 24, I got what could only be described as the death flu. It knocked me on my ass for 6 days. I lost 26 lbs (I weighed about 165 pre flu). I've gotten a shot every year since and haven't gotten the flu since.

brianlux

Thank you, unsung! I stopped getting flu shots about 6 years ago when I read they had something related to anti freeze in them. My health has been about the same, maybe even better without the shots. Instead, I drink carrot juice, avoid GMO foods, buy organics whenever possible, take healthy supplements, avoid dairy except for a little sheep and/or goat cheese and rice milk instead of cow's milk and buy affordable organic wine at places like our food co-op and Trader Joe's. And you can't beat home grown.

hedonist

Never had a flu shot and likely never will.

I smoke and drink, and get the flu maybe once a year 8-)

I dunno...when my niece and nephew were growing up, it seems like they were catching something every other week, getting prescribed antibiotics, and continuing to catch the same or similar bug over and over.

Me - grew up with no antibacterial soap/wipes, no antibiotics, just a (Flintstones) multivitamin and the dreaded spoonful of cod liver oil.

Again, got the flu maybe once a year.

So yeah...fortunately I'm not in an at-risk group and will forgo the shot.

(and honestly, this has NOTHING to do with my fear of needles )

Guitar92player

I never really got a flu shot until last year and up until then every flu season I got sick. Last year everyone in my family got sick but me. So, for me they work. But its not always successful. It only protects from certain strains of flu out there. It is still possible to get some version of a flu even with a flu shot.

backseatLover12

I don't usually get flu shots, but working in a nursing home, I have to.

aerial

No flue shot for me ...why fix something that ain't broke

Prince Of Dorkness

and I bet every one of you eats at McDonald's or In & Out or a chocolate bar, has ice cream...

You're eating MUCH worse stuff than that every day. Sugar and Gelatin? That's in your advil and multi vitamin.

Honestly...

When you don't get the flu shot, you're not just potentially making yourself sick (and don't laugh, flu viruses can kill even healthy young people), you can pass it on to an elderly person or a baby and kill them. Or pass it on to a pregnant woman and kill her baby.

"And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans."

And I'll bet every one of you eats bread, pasta, muffins, eggs... pretty much every day.

And somehow none of you are dead of Avian Retrovirus.

Why do you think that is? :fp:

unsung

I only intend on having Formaldehyde in my system once, and I'm not ready for that.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

and I bet every one of you eats at McDonald's or In & Out or a chocolate bar, has ice cream...

You're eating MUCH worse stuff than that every day. Sugar and Gelatin? That's in your advil and multi vitamin.

Honestly...

When you don't get the flu shot, you're not just potentially making yourself sick (and don't laugh, flu viruses can kill even healthy young people), you can pass it on to an elderly person or a baby and kill them. Or pass it on to a pregnant woman and kill her baby.

"And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans."

And I'll bet every one of you eats bread, pasta, muffins, eggs... pretty much every day.

And somehow none of you are dead of Avian Retrovirus.

Why do you think that is? :fp:

thanks POD, I was going to post something similar, but you nailed it.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

unsung wrote:

I only intend on having Formaldehyde in my system once, and I'm not ready for that.

yeah, and I'm sure you've never done any of this:

1. Stay away from processed meats like bacon, hot dogs, and sausage. Sodium nitrate accounts for their appetizing red hue, but this additive can also cause the formation of nitrosamines in your system, which can lead to cancer.

2. Stick to low-mercury fish like American-farmed tilapia instead of swordfish or tuna. Overexposure can cause memory problems, fatigue, and other health issues, and besides, most wild fish stocks are threatened these days. (Looking for an alternative? There’s branzini, the fish you’ve never heard of.)

3. Reduce the amount of canned food you consume. Cans are commonly lined with bisphenol-A, an organic compound that, according to the Lang study, may be associated with diabetes and heart disease.

4. Cut back on meat and dairy products. These animal products may contain trace amounts of harmful contaminants like polybrominated diphenyl ethers, polychlorinated biphenyl and dioxins. Although many of these toxins have been banned, they are still present in the soil. Reducing your intake of animal products is also more friendly to the environment.

5. Skip the diet soda and artificial sweeteners. Prolonged exposure to aspartame, a neurotoxic chemical additive in these products, can lead to nerve cell damage, dizziness, and headaches. Besides, anything that gives rats brain tumors is worth avoiding in my book.

6. Choose the farmed fish carefully. Studies show that farm-raised fish contain more polychlorinated biphenyl and over ten times the amount of dioxin.

7. Opt for organic chicken. The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy discovered traces of arsenic in non-organic chickens. Exposure to this dangerous chemical can lead to cancer, diabetes and heart disease. Another study also found numerous antibiotic-resistant bacteria in conventional poultry.

8. Only drink milk that says “no rBGH” on the carton because recombinant bovine growth hormone has been linked with breast cancer. Better yet, opt for responsibly-produced, unsweetened soy, nut or rice milk.



9. Avoid manufactured snacks. Hydrogenated oils are used to lengthen the shelf life of products like crackers and cookies, but they are also associated with diabetes and heart disease. Another reason to stay away from the middle aisles: snack foods are generally loaded with salt, corn syrup and other unhealthy ingredients.

10. Stay away from artificially-colored foods like candy, maraschino cherries, and gelatin. Mice and rats exposed to blue 1 and 2, red 3 and yellow 6 suffered from brain, adrenal gland, thyroid, and kidney tumors.

11. Always buy organic produce. This one’s a no-brainer, but the list wouldn’t be complete without it. Lingering pesticides can lead to nervous and reproductive system damage, not to mention cancer.

12. Use stainless steel or cast iron cookware to prepare your meals. The Teflon used to create nonstick surfaces can release noxious gases when exposed to high temperatures, which puts you at risk for heart disease.

13. Never microwave food in plastic bowls, containers, or dishes. Exposure to heat causes the bisphenol-A found in plastics to break down and potentially contaminate your food. Also, make sure to hand wash them.

hedonist

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

When you don't get the flu shot, you're not just potentially making yourself sick (and don't laugh, flu viruses can kill even healthy young people), you can pass it on to an elderly person or a baby and kill them. Or pass it on to a pregnant woman and kill her baby.

Wouldn't those people you reference have gotten a flu shot themselves though?

I was curious, and per the Mayo Clinic:

Who shouldn't get the flu shot?

Check with your doctor before receiving a flu vaccine if:

You're allergic to eggs. Some flu vaccines contain tiny amounts of egg proteins. If you have an egg allergy or sensitivity, you'll likely be able to receive a flu vaccine — but you might need to take special precautions, such as waiting in the doctor's office for at least 30 minutes after vaccination in case of a reaction. There's also a flu vaccine that doesn't contain egg proteins, Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved for use in people age 18 and older. Consult your doctor about your options.

You had a severe reaction to a previous flu vaccine. The flu vaccine isn't recommended for anyone who had a severe reaction to a previous flu vaccine. Check with your doctor first, though. Some reactions might not be related to the vaccine.

(and unsung, I'm probably going the cremation route, but that made me laugh)

Prince Of Dorkness

unsung wrote:

I only intend on having Formaldehyde in my system once, and I'm not ready for that.

you already have. Many times.

Prince Of Dorkness

hedonist wrote:

Wouldn't those people you reference have gotten a flu shot themselves though?

Well they should have. Not everyone does. Mostly because of the asinine hysteria posted above.

I was curious, and per the Mayo Clinic:

Who shouldn't get the flu shot?

Check with your doctor before receiving a flu vaccine if:

You're allergic to eggs. Some flu vaccines contain tiny amounts of egg proteins. If you have an egg allergy or sensitivity, you'll likely be able to receive a flu vaccine — but you might need to take special precautions, such as waiting in the doctor's office for at least 30 minutes after vaccination in case of a reaction. There's also a flu vaccine that doesn't contain egg proteins, Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved for use in people age 18 and older. Consult your doctor about your options.

You had a severe reaction to a previous flu vaccine.

Right... so it's possible - but rare - for people to be allergic to one of the ingredients.

There are also people who are allergic to nuts. But I'm guessing you're not advocating staying away from nuts for everyone?

there are also people who are allergic to things like Penicillin. But I sure hope you don't advocate everyone staying away from those. I'm allergic to Mycin drugs. So I stay away from those and use penicillin.

There are also people who can't drive... but I'm willing to bet you have a car.

hedonist

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

There are also people who are allergic to nuts. But I'm guessing you're not advocating staying away from nuts for everyone?

there are also people who are allergic to things like Penicillin. But I sure hope you don't advocate everyone staying away from those. I'm allergic to Mycin drugs. So I stay away from those and use penicillin.

There are also people who can't drive... but I'm willing to bet you have a car.

Advocating? My comments didn't allude to that in the least.

Not sure how you made that conclusion or where the driving thing fits in.

Prince Of Dorkness

By the way.. ANY Vaccine contains most if not all of those ingredients. Because it's the safest way to get them to you.

You've had small pox, measles, hopefully Rubella... I had Hepatitis last spring when there was an outbreak in the gay community. They ALL have those ingredients and they're safe unless you're allergic to them.

And the flu virus is a LOT more dangerous.



But I'm guessing that since conservatives and libertarians are all against the things the Obamas are for... health care... eating healthy.... water... You're against this. Because "freedom."

brianlux

The irony for me is that I'm almost paranoid about dying from the flu. I've had it a couple of times where it's been so bad it felt like dying wouldn't be such a bad option. But at the very least I'll still wait until they stop putting chemicals like formaldehyde and anti freeze in it. If they did that, I'd reconsider.

Prince Of Dorkness

hedonist wrote:

Not sure how you made that conclusion or where the driving thing fits in.

Well you seem to be suggesting that because some people have bad reactions, that nobody should take it.

Well, some people have died by MANY things... including driving in a car... and yet it's the suggestion that people should take the flu vaccine if they can is somehow bad.

Maybe I'm not reading what you're writing properly.

lukin2006

As far as I'm concerned it's called personal choice ... I have no interest in getting the flu shot, and I have had the flu, lasted about 3 days, survived ... To my knowledge only ever had the flu twice ... Usually just get the common cold. And the kicker is it's free here in Ontario, but I still pass on it. Thanks but no thanks.