ANY OTHER COUNTRIES DO ANYTHING??
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Where is the help from other countries regarding human rights, poverty, aids, terrorism, etc.?
China has the money, power, military and clout to get some things done internationally.....what do they do anywhere other than build their own country and relationships that only help them. They are the greediest rich country i have ever seen.
Russia, has nothing to offer but being obstructionists on every one of our policies
Austrailia, LOL
Canada LOL
England, France and Germany.....sometimes they try....but they dont get shit done either
Anyone on here confirm some great things these countries are doing for others?? Please i want to see some big changes brought forth! If not, then that means the good ol USA is hated and loved for being number one in everything!
Where the fuck is China and Russia in Africa?? And where are the Middle Eastern countries when it comes to speaking out against human atrocities??
Looks to me that the USA is the ONLY hope for this world whether you like it or not! So all you anti-Americans out there.....show me another model country that we should follow!
China has the money, power, military and clout to get some things done internationally.....what do they do anywhere other than build their own country and relationships that only help them. They are the greediest rich country i have ever seen.
Russia, has nothing to offer but being obstructionists on every one of our policies
Austrailia, LOL
Canada LOL
England, France and Germany.....sometimes they try....but they dont get shit done either
Anyone on here confirm some great things these countries are doing for others?? Please i want to see some big changes brought forth! If not, then that means the good ol USA is hated and loved for being number one in everything!
Where the fuck is China and Russia in Africa?? And where are the Middle Eastern countries when it comes to speaking out against human atrocities??
Looks to me that the USA is the ONLY hope for this world whether you like it or not! So all you anti-Americans out there.....show me another model country that we should follow!
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A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
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what are south korea, thailand, veitnam, greece, china, spain & italy doing to help starving people all over africa? what are those countries doing to aid syrians bathing in chemical weapons? like the OP i don't hear much anything being done
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maybe greece should stop saying yes sir to the u.s. unless it is in a peaceful fashion like dropping food & medicine
maybe other countries should stop saying yes sir when it comes to hurting & killing innocent ppl
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ofcourse usa is the boss..which other country will bomb syria or any other country and dont give a shit what UN or the rest of the world saying?
only the Boss
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starving
fighting
starving
fighting
those seem to be the two things that come to me right now
feed the hungry & teach them whatever they need to know
help end bullies
help end bullies
HELP END BULLIES
yes i realize the u.s. can be a bully
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I am tired; my heart is
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seriously..i met alot of Americans all this years,great people..i try to tell others here,or from other countries.my experience with good Americans...and you know what..no one fuckin believe me....
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You don't hear much about it because 1. that news isn't sexy and 2. Other countries don't don't self promote and blow smoke up their own ass like the US.
http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contr ... an13_2.pdf
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Let's clean up our own act and get our own shit together here in the good 'ol U. S. of A. and stop playing world police.
Except we live in a globalised world now
by isolating yourselves from the rest of the world, things will get much much worse in the "good 'ol U.S of A"
Absolutely true. But I don't mean to suggest we isolate ourselves. Trade goods, share cultures? Sure. But I've been saying for decades we need to take care of business here at home and maybe in doing so, set an example rather than make ourselves world police. I'm not going to go over to my neighbor's place and try to make them clean up their house and yard and stop fighting and poisoning themselves and what ever if I'm doing the same in my home- which is exactly what we are doing.
I'm not sure that example can be translated to the international stage. your not going over to your neighbours place because the state exists to make laws and more importantly has the power to enforce those laws.
in the international realm it doesn't work like that. countries exist in a state of anarchy, there is no legitimate power that makes the rules and has to power to enforce them. so there are times when a more powerful state should intervene.
instead it is up to individual countries to become the "world police" particularly if they are a hegemony like america.
If the united States shirks that responsibility what will end up happening is that all the countries who are around equal in power will start to battle to fill the void left.
thats how world war one happened
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This brings to my mind some questions, satansbed-- and I mean them sincerely- not trying to be argumentative or combative but...
1."there are times when a more powerful state should intervene". Why is that and who made it our job? I really don't understand that concept.
2. " it is up to individual countries to become the "world police" particularly if they are a hegemony like america". Why is it up to us and what gives us the right to practice hegemony over other countries? We don't own them.
3. "If the united States shirks that responsibility". But who made it our responsibility? Again, that's something that I just don't get. What if China or Russia acted that way toward the country you or I live in. Would that be OK?
4. "all the countries who are around equal in power will start to battle to fill the void left...that's how world war one happened". World war is something we don't really have to worry about- at least in the sense that all all-out world war would be winnable. Every one would lose.
To my way of thinking, it still makes more sense to clean up our own "house", set an example, and help (help as opposed to forcing our selves upon or enabling) other countries who want to do the same- especially those who want a cleaner, healthier, more peaceful world.
we are talking millions of people from a country all chipping in to lift up those falling apart. then another country helps another or the same country get on their feet. you'd think it would be a chain reaction
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I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
The atrocities in Syria are undeniably horrific and evil, but its not our problem. Period. Its an out of control civil war that we have no business stepping into. Once the war is over, I have no problem sending aid and helping the civilians.
Historic amnesia will only lead to bigger problems.
Well really it naturally became a Hegemony. it is the most powerful country on earth. being a hegemony is not something you practice per se.
during the cold war there where two Hegemonies because there where too roughly equally powered countries. and each of these powers balanced each other out. hence why it remained largely "cold" but prior to that there where lots of roughly equally powered nations and you had one of the bloodiest periods of human history in the two world wars.
the whole reason that a world war is something we don't have to worry about is that the united states is a hegemony. it prevents china from fighting russia for power, it prevents india and pakistan from devolving into full scale war. just by its very existence as the most militarily and economically powerful country.
although it may not seem like it the last thirty years are probably the most peaceful the world has ever seen.
and i share similar sentiments to you about not wanting to be combative, you just raised some interesting points. both here and in other threads that i felt needed to be expanded upon
fact is, when we lie down at night we are locked in to our fellow man & their spirit, when we rise first thing in the morning sunshine, we are locked in to our fellow man...why? because they have a spiritual signature like ours.
it is not one countries duty..no. it is every countries duty to give a helping hand not hand out gernades
women, child & men all innocent are bathing in chemicals. i can not understand why human beings keep destroying each other & this planet
however, i do understand destroying monsters & removing evil from decency. this is not a full on old school type war/battle.
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I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
What you describe is sort of what my wife refers to as a "benevolent dictatorship". If our hegemony really were all about that I suppose it might work. I'm just not sure how much "benevolence" is built into the machine. But one can always hope!
(and, no, I did not feel any combativeness in your posts.
I think a better way to look at it is to think of the world as a village. now most of the time this village leaves each to their own, except to trade with each other etc. now in this village the U.S. is the only person with a gun, but its largely satisfied to leave others control their own lives. but Syria is treating its children really badly and one day one of its children reports to its neighbour with a broken arm. should the united states, the only person in the village that has the force to influence Syria to not hurt its children intervene or should it not get involved because it's not its fight.
not a perfect analogy, but i am tired and not a perfect human being
My daughter studied International Relations in college. Her dream all through high school and college was to go to the Peace Corp in Africa and help educate the people about AIDS. It is a long process (2 years) to get accepted into the Peace Corp. She was accepted and at 22 years old got on a plane to Zambia, Africa. Guess what? She was not welcomed there!!! A very long story but after 6 months she came home. It took a very long time for her to recover from that. She was very idealistic and wanted to make a difference. Now she is a special education teacher and is making a difference in her own country helping children. She thinks the Peace Corp went about this education to the villages in Zambia the wrong way. Americans did not understand their culture and did not understand that these people did not want to be told what to do.
I feel very sorry for those suffering in Syria, but am not so certain that we are going about it the right way. Why can't we be patient and wait for the UN to handle this situation? Isn't that the purpose of the UN? People in other countries do not like us, because we push our ideals onto them. Meanwhile, we have our own problems in our own country. We did not learn anything from Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We just keep making the same mistakes. And young lives are being sacrificed as well. Karma will get us in the end.
Very nice post.
You are right. I believe we should help them, but at the same time we can't keep thinking we will make Syria the United States, Jr. I want to help those poor citizens (not rebels), but helping will have many negative consequences.
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1) make sure they keep rogue nations in check
2) keep the oil flowing
3) more democracy = more potential international allies
if you think they give a shit, why did they go in and capture Saddam and let him be hanged in a back room, but they didn't do that with any other world dictator, ones committing genocide against their own people every day?
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