College student shot and killed by teens who were "bored"

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  • ajedigecko wrote:
    Gun issue aside... this situation, which is much like many other situations, reeks of absentee parenting.

    I read the post from the fellow who is close to the situation and am aware that the parents of the one child did have some involvement in the upbringing of their child (showing up to a game), but it is my opinion that too many kids are left to their own devices too early, too often, and left unchecked at critical points of their development- destined for some form of failure.

    Teenage brains are not fully developed in the most ideal of situations- lacking impulse control and awareness of consequences among other deficiencies.

    Further, "if a teen is doing music or sports or academics, those are the cells and connections that will be hardwired. If they're lying on the couch or playing video games or MTV, those are the cells and connections that are going to survive." In other words, if a teen has not had the opportunity or guidance to allow for their brain to develop 'normally'... they will, for lack of better word, 'mutate'. Parents need to be more controlling of their kids' activities if society stands any chance. Of course, this world demands so much from most parents that this is easier said than done.

    The lack of respect that is consistently shown to teachers, police, and other authority figures by society doesn't help. In what could be a helpful checkpoint for many that need the additional support... we have managed to undermine the efforts of those trying to provide it.

    It's a big, big problem. Scary actually.

    Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... scent.html


    Great post.

    Have you seen the video of the rogue young male elephants. There is no male leader in the heard and the outcome is scary.

    The male is reintroduced and the outcome is not scary.

    Haven't seen it, but what you describe fits what I'm getting at.

    Thanks for lending some support.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ajedigecko wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:



    Evil is real...be ready to defend yourself and family.


    Po Lazarus

    I've never believed in evil. It seems like people use it as an easy way to make sense of disturbing behavior.

    That is a powerful statement.

    Do you apply the same to good?


    Or is there different levels of good, with your logic?


    I am not aware of a movie quote, Sir.

    well then please explain "be ready to defend yourself and family" you have my attention.

    Godfather.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    Just an observation...based on the acts of violence being displayed.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Disgusting! Pure shit! No use for fucktards like that. This is what our fucked up society has become, killing people because "we're fucken bored." Wow
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,095
    ajedigecko wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:

    I've never believed in evil. It seems like people use it as an easy way to make sense of disturbing behavior.

    That is a powerful statement.

    Do you apply the same to good?


    Or is there different levels of good, with your logic?

    I believe every person is good at their core, so I don't apply the same in that case. I'm not referring to evil when someone uses the term to describe something horrible. It's when people use it to make a person not human or that they're possessed by something different, and that's used to give a reason for the behavior. It's more of a test of compassion and understanding if someone avoids going to the easy conclusion that they're evil.
  • otterotter Posts: 760
    Go Beavers wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:

    I've never believed in evil. It seems like people use it as an easy way to make sense of disturbing behavior.

    That is a powerful statement.

    Do you apply the same to good?


    Or is there different levels of good, with your logic?

    I believe every person is good at their core, so I don't apply the same in that case. I'm not referring to evil when someone uses the term to describe something horrible. It's when people use it to make a person not human or that they're possessed by something different, and that's used to give a reason for the behavior. It's more of a test of compassion and understanding if someone avoids going to the easy conclusion that they're evil.

    I agree, people are inherently good. Evil certainly exists, that is undeniable. Why does evil exist? I haven't figured that one out yet but for now I use "free will" as the answer. Maybe I'll spend time contemplating it but not now.

    Hell exists in a way. Evil doer's souls cease to exist after death. Their soul does not descend into hell it turns to nothing. That is hell...nothing. Our soul's live on.
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.
    People do good things every day all the time. It just doesn't make the news because it doesn't sell ads. You could say that it happens so often that it isn't news. No one wants to hear about a person who helped another person. That is boring.
    Are we to believe that everywhere we look people are just killing each other for no reason?
    The news is nothing like the world I see on a daily basis. These acts are, statistically speaking, rare.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.
    People do good things every day all the time. It just doesn't make the news because it doesn't sell ads. You could say that it happens so often that it isn't news. No one wants to hear about a person who helped another person. That is boring.
    Are we to believe that everywhere we look people are just killing each other for no reason?
    The news is nothing like the world I see on a daily basis. These acts are, statistically speaking, rare.
    I hope that it's simply reporting bias and not indicative of an actual increase in the occurrence of such things.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.
    People do good things every day all the time. It just doesn't make the news because it doesn't sell ads. You could say that it happens so often that it isn't news. No one wants to hear about a person who helped another person. That is boring.
    Are we to believe that everywhere we look people are just killing each other for no reason?
    The news is nothing like the world I see on a daily basis. These acts are, statistically speaking, rare.


    "These acts are, statistically speaking, rare."

    really ?.....not lately..

    Godfather.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    SK359828 wrote:
    Pretty fucking sad all over - and icing on the cake in that he shot the family dog too.

    Take yourself out if you're at the end of what you can handle. But innocents too? Fuck that and fuck him.

    Anyway as for me...I'm pretty much crying "parents these days".
  • hedonist wrote:
    SK359828 wrote:
    Pretty fucking sad all over - and icing on the cake in that he shot the family dog too.

    Take yourself out if you're at the end of what you can handle. But innocents too? Fuck that and fuck him.

    Anyway as for me...I'm pretty much crying "parents these days".


    What he/she said!

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    Right on, hedonist.
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    Go Beavers wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:

    I've never believed in evil. It seems like people use it as an easy way to make sense of disturbing behavior.

    That is a powerful statement.

    Do you apply the same to good?


    Or is there different levels of good, with your logic?

    I believe every person is good at their core, so I don't apply the same in that case. I'm not referring to evil when someone uses the term to describe something horrible. It's when people use it to make a person not human or that they're possessed by something different, and that's used to give a reason for the behavior. It's more of a test of compassion and understanding if someone avoids going to the easy conclusion that they're evil.


    well said...i understand.

    your words remind me of Anne Frank.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • I remember the days when I was bored and a, video game, prank phone calls, knocking on a door and running, smoking j's and playing frisbee, lifting weights, going for a bike ride, calling a friend, walk to the store, porno mag/movie, reading a book, having a nap, sun tanning, drinking, and probably about 5000 other things would have went through my mind before shooting the next person who was walking down the street would have. Maybe I"m just out of touch with the younger generation.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.
    Another one that makes my heart heavy and wonder WHY. All that he gave and survived, just to be killed with a flashlight by apathetic people with zero regard for life.

    That man could've been my late father - in age, in service and in goodness.

    even flow - ? - I'm with you; I too spent many a summer doing those things you mentioned (minus the lifting weights). And yes, never ever would hurting, let alone randomly killing, someone else even be an option.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    The senseless murder of Australian student and baseball player Chris Lane may have been gang-related, the father of a 17-year-old in Oklahoma told the Herald Sun.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/21/revealed-possible-motive-in-senseless-for-fun-murder-of-australian-baseball-star/
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.

    One of two teens charged with beating a World War II veteran to death in a Washington parking lot allegedly claimed he and his pal pummeled the elderly man because of a drug deal gone bad.

    Investigators said there was no evidence to support the wild allegation they say Kenan Adams-Kinard, 16, made in a note found when he was arrested in a Spokane basement apartment on Monday after a four-day manhunt.

    The teen contended in the handwritten letter that he and Demetrius Glenn, 16, attacked 88-year-old Delbert (Shorty) Belton on Aug. 21, after the man ripped them off during a crack cocaine sale, prosecutors said.

    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/ ... -1.1438997

    It's a shame these punks won't face the death penalty.
  • So the US doesn't pay their vets well and they have to turn to crack dealing to make a buck? Wow!

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    here's some more good people.....

    Police in Washington state are searching for two young suspects after a World War II veteran died after being severely beaten in a parking lot Wednesday night.

    The Spokane Police Department says in a press release officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday and found the victim in his car with serious head injuries. He later died in the hospital.

    Authorities on Thursday released surveillance photos of the two suspects, who they describe as African-American males between the ages of 16 and 19.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/wo ... z2cnKHUZHT

    Godfather.

    One of two teens charged with beating a World War II veteran to death in a Washington parking lot allegedly claimed he and his pal pummeled the elderly man because of a drug deal gone bad.

    Investigators said there was no evidence to support the wild allegation they say Kenan Adams-Kinard, 16, made in a note found when he was arrested in a Spokane basement apartment on Monday after a four-day manhunt.

    The teen contended in the handwritten letter that he and Demetrius Glenn, 16, attacked 88-year-old Delbert (Shorty) Belton on Aug. 21, after the man ripped them off during a crack cocaine sale, prosecutors said.

    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/ ... -1.1438997

    It's a shame these punks won't face the death penalty.

    agreed.

    Godfather.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Go Beavers wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:



    Evil is real...be ready to defend yourself and family.


    Po Lazarus

    I've never believed in evil. It seems like people use it as an easy way to make sense of disturbing behavior.

    in total agreeance. evil is a term used to inspire fear in people. bad people do bad things.. its that simple.
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