College student shot and killed by teens who were "bored"

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edited August 2013 in A Moving Train
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  • NamiNami Posts: 5,995
    just reading/watching this BS on cnn. So sad....wtf ?
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Read about this earlier. That poor young man, and his family.

    What the fuck is wrong with people to have such disregard for life?

    Something tells me the neighborhood animals have experienced the boredom of these "teens" - whom I hope are tried as adults.
  • hedonist wrote:
    Something tells me the neighborhood animals have experienced the boredom of these "teens" - whom I hope are tried as adults.

    Hopefully the judge and jury will be bored and just give them life in prison. :roll:
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  • pjsycopjsyco Posts: 646

    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • PJ51390PJ51390 Posts: 728
    pjsyco wrote:

    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Absolutely agree, they will stay far from this!
  • THE LOOKTHE LOOK Posts: 324
    Is this not a hate crime?
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  • PJ51390PJ51390 Posts: 728
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?

    I can't see how if the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be considered. And they would be tried as adults with no questions asked. Should be interesting to see how this goes.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    PJ51390 wrote:
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?

    I can't see how if the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be considered. And they would be tried as adults with no questions asked. Should be interesting to see how this goes.
    While I agree there is a double standard regarding "hate crimes", let us not get too carried away with decrying the injustice of the legal system towards whites. We have it pretty good.
  • PJ51390PJ51390 Posts: 728
    MotoDC wrote:
    PJ51390 wrote:
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?

    I can't see how if the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be considered. And they would be tried as adults with no questions asked. Should be interesting to see how this goes.
    While I agree there is a double standard regarding "hate crimes", let us not get too carried away with decrying the injustice of the legal system towards whites. We have it pretty good.

    I should have been more clear, I am not saying anything about our justice system. I am speaking of the public court of opinion when the unfortunate face of a lot of the public outcry and "reasoning" comes from the likes of Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    PJ51390 wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    While I agree there is a double standard regarding "hate crimes", let us not get too carried away with decrying the injustice of the legal system towards whites. We have it pretty good.

    I should have been more clear, I am not saying anything about our justice system. I am speaking of the public court of opinion when the unfortunate face of a lot of the public outcry and "reasoning" comes from the likes of Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton.
    Ah ok fair enough. My bad. Yeah you're right there's zero chance Jackson and Sharpton have anything to say about this.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    PJ51390 wrote:
    I should have been more clear, I am not saying anything about our justice system. I am speaking of the public court of opinion when the unfortunate face of a lot of the public outcry and "reasoning" comes from the likes of Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton.
    ...
    That is one of the problems in America... The court of public opinion. That court is filled with jesters and fools and no one should listen to nor care what they have to say.
    Let the courts sort that shit out.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,299
    pjsyco wrote:

    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I would think that if these kids were not arrested and allowed to remain free then yes Jackson and Sharpton probably would have something to say.

    They were arrested. If you're trying to compare this to Trayvon Martin's death you are really way off base.
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  • pjsyco wrote:

    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I would think that if these kids were not arrested and allowed to remain free then yes Jackson and Sharpton probably would have something to say.

    They were arrested. If you're trying to compare this to Trayvon Martin's death you are really way off base.

    agreed
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    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?
    The article I read didn't mention anything about the race of the perpetrators. Honestly, I didn't even think about it until the issue was raised here. I just saw it as a supremely fucked up and sad situation.

    But even if they are/were black, does that automatically deem this a hate crime? Strikes me as more of a stupid, pointless act committed by three useless (so far, it seems, anyway) teenagers.

    This is the problem I have with the term "hate crime". Yes, it's hateful but then how many crimes aren't?

    Different races possibly being involved doesn't automatically equate to it being ABOUT race. At least, not to me.
  • hedonist wrote:
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?
    The article I read didn't mention anything about the race of the perpetrators. Honestly, I didn't even think about it until the issue was raised here. I just saw it as a supremely fucked up and sad situation.

    But even if they are/were black, does that automatically deem this a hate crime? Strikes me as more of a stupid, pointless act committed by three useless (so far, it seems, anyway) teenagers.

    This is the problem I have with the term "hate crime". Yes, it's hateful but then how many crimes aren't?

    Different races possibly being involved doesn't automatically equate to it being ABOUT race. At least, not to me.

    agreed

    Like I said in the other thread regarding this issue, I just think when people bring up race it brings out some minimal racism itself (no offense to those). This situation is just fucked up, no need to bring race into it. Historically white people show racism towards blacks more than blacks show towards whites, or at least this is how I see it. If this case was the other way around (where 3 whites shot one black), yes it might spark more outrage, but not in the extreme that Trayvon's case was. The three black teens who did this were arrested. Justice was done, no more needs to be said. If it was three white teens and they were arrested, the same justice has been done.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    hedonist wrote:
    THE LOOK wrote:
    Is this not a hate crime?
    The article I read didn't mention anything about the race of the perpetrators. Honestly, I didn't even think about it until the issue was raised here. I just saw it as a supremely fucked up and sad situation.

    But even if they are/were black, does that automatically deem this a hate crime? Strikes me as more of a stupid, pointless act committed by three useless (so far, it seems, anyway) teenagers.

    This is the problem I have with the term "hate crime". Yes, it's hateful but then how many crimes aren't?

    Different races possibly being involved doesn't automatically equate to it being ABOUT race. At least, not to me.

    I agree, from what I read from the article these appear to say they were setting out to "kill somebody". The article didn't say lets go kill this white guy, they appeared to kill the first random guy they came across. Also yes I believe there's usually some hate involved in killing someone....one it seems has to ratchet up their anger to reach the level to end another persons life.

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  • LoulouLoulou Posts: 6,247
    That poor young fella. :( Absolutely disgusting!
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  • :evil: That is sickening and pathetic. I am really glad that these poor excuses of human teenagers will be tried as "adults". Killing someone "just because" is the most pathetic reason I have ever heard when it comes to a motive of murdering someone. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends of that Australian victim.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    These three are just a bunch human crap ...

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  • For those wondering if it is a hate crime: in my opinion, it is not because one of the three teenagers is Caucasian, not black.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    Sad.

    You - me - we... Must be vigilant.

    These things are in our society and their goal is evil.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Throw their parents in jail. If we start doing that, I'll bet the number of teens doing crimes will start to drop.

    And I don't believe in the concept of a hate crime. There shouldn't be different penalties if you happen to commit a crime against someone who isn't exactly like yourself. A crime is a crime.
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  • PJ51390PJ51390 Posts: 728
    know1 wrote:
    Throw their parents in jail. If we start doing that, I'll bet the number of teens doing crimes will start to drop.

    Totally agree, there has to be some responsibility of the parents here. Maybe if they got thrown in jail, others might think twice about letting their kids drop out of school and sit around to the point of being so bored you and two buddies hunt down someone and kill them for the fun of it.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    pjsyco wrote:
    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I would think that if these kids were not arrested and allowed to remain free then yes Jackson and Sharpton probably would have something to say.

    They were arrested. If you're trying to compare this to Trayvon Martin's death you are really way off base.
    Agree comparisons to Trayvon/Zimmerman are thin, but you can't possibly believe Sharpton/Jackson would have spoken out against cops who didn't arrest a couple of black kids right away.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    lock them away until they die.
    Haha very unsubtle anti-death penalty jab there HFD!
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,299
    MotoDC wrote:
    pjsyco wrote:
    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I would think that if these kids were not arrested and allowed to remain free then yes Jackson and Sharpton probably would have something to say.

    They were arrested. If you're trying to compare this to Trayvon Martin's death you are really way off base.
    Agree comparisons to Trayvon/Zimmerman are thin, but you can't possibly believe Sharpton/Jackson would have spoken out against cops who didn't arrest a couple of black kids right away.

    To compare this to Trayvon you would need a white Sharpton/Jackson to speak out.

    In this case my comment related to asking Sharpton/Jackson their thoughts on a case where the murderers were arrested immediately and admitted the crime. The original suggestion that they would speak out doesn't make sense. But given the facts of the case I can't imagine that they wouldn't agree that the kids needed to be arrested.
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  • MotoDC wrote:
    lock them away until they die.
    Haha very unsubtle anti-death penalty jab there HFD!

    it actually wasn't a jab. when I first read this story, I actually WANTED the death penalty for these 3, if you can believe that.

    basically I just think that this type of evil needs to be locked up forever. no chance of parole. EVER.
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  • MotoDC wrote:
    Agree comparisons to Trayvon/Zimmerman are thin, but you can't possibly believe Sharpton/Jackson would have spoken out against cops who didn't arrest a couple of black kids right away.

    exactly. no chance in hell. they'd be deemed traitors. there would be no point anyway. they don't speak out against all crime, only crimes against blacks.
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  • dustinparduedustinpardue Posts: 1,829
    pjsyco wrote:

    I wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will protest this shooting?! I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I think many people are misunderstanding Jackson and Sharpton. They did what they had to do to keep peace I think. If they didn't do what they did and give people something to rally behind peacefully, there would have likely been a lot of people out there 'keeping it real' causing more violence. I think what they did was great, they stood up as leaders and took charge in a time of uncertainty. Better them in charge than some angry mobs with no direction or mature leadership.
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