THE NEW SYSTEM TO GET TIX SUCKS BIG TIME

Whipping_Boy

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Whipping_Boy wrote:

My personal experience from being in the 10 club since 1996:

Chance of getting tix thru 10 club prior to lottery system = 100% (20 for 20)
Chance of getting tix thru 10 club with lottery system = 12.5% (1 for 8)

thats the success of the new system..the rest 87.5% went to different members than just to one

That's not how statistics work - I wasn't getting 87.5% of the tickets previously. But lets not get stuck on statistics. This is not a success in my eyes or to the others who have been in the club for a while. How is it a success when long time, loyal members are suddenly given the shaft? Is it a success to tell these members that your seniority is suddenly almost worthless? But thanks for lining the 10 clubs pockets all those years? Not good business to crap on your loyal fan base IMO. And I still don't buy the numbers - there is no way there are more fans in the 10 club now than there were in the late 90s or early 00s where everyone was happy and eveyone got tix. We never worried about getting tix in those days - only worried about how good of seats our 10 club number got us. Now we are fighting over crumbs and not even getting those. So where are all of the tickets suddenly? And now some shows that people were shut out for in the lottery are all of a sudden available again? Including GA/pit? That tells me the lottery failed to get the right people the right tix.

The lottery should be either eliminated or improved by:

1. making it fully automated - come up with the right algorithm and let it run. No more of this 10 hour wait time.

2. update the algorithm so that seniority matters. Give members with better seniority better chances at winning the lottery. new members still have a shot at tix and even GA/pit but seniority still matters.

dimitrispearljam

Whipping_Boy wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Whipping_Boy wrote:

My personal experience from being in the 10 club since 1996:

Chance of getting tix thru 10 club prior to lottery system = 100% (20 for 20)
Chance of getting tix thru 10 club with lottery system = 12.5% (1 for 8)

thats the success of the new system..the rest 87.5% went to different members than just to one

That's not how statistics work - I wasn't getting 87.5% of the tickets previously. But lets not get stuck on statistics. This is not a success in my eyes or to the others who have been in the club for a while. How is it a success when long time, loyal members are suddenly given the shaft? Is it a success to tell these members that your seniority is suddenly almost worthless? But thanks for lining the 10 clubs pockets all those years? Not good business to crap on your loyal fan base IMO. And I still don't buy the numbers - there is no way there are more fans in the 10 club now than there were in the late 90s or early 00s where everyone was happy and eveyone got tix. We never worried about getting tix in those days - only worried about how good of seats our 10 club number got us. Now we are fighting over crumbs and not even getting those. So where are all of the tickets suddenly? And now some shows that people were shut out for in the lottery are all of a sudden available again? Including GA/pit? That tells me the lottery failed to get the right people the right tix.

The lottery should be either eliminated or improved by:

1. making it fully automated - come up with the right algorithm and let it run. No more of this 10 hour wait time.

2. update the algorithm so that seniority matters. Give members with better seniority better chances at winning the lottery. new members still have a shot at tix and even GA/pit but seniority still matters.

seniority matters as always AFTER you score tix..as ALWAYS
Never seniority has to do with scoring tix..with the previous system f-5 a new member of 10 days in the club could score and a 20 years old member not
lottery change the way of selling the tickets,NOT seniority
seniority has to do ONLY with the location of your seat AFTER and IF you score tix
its so clear that..
AND we pay membership PER YEAR..for THIS year my money,worth the same as yours...
you cant just like that you to have better chances than others..
at 2013 ALL have the same chances..ALL... new or old members..
AFTER you score you get better seats..
BUT to score tix NO..same chanches as the rest of the members..no matter when you join the club

and now there are 200.000 active memebrs..AWAY more than early 90's

decides2dream

as long as i've been a member - since 2003 - i've only had a "chance" of scoring tix. i will admit, in the past i have been, thankfully, ALWAYS lucky and scored tix to every show i wanted to attend. that said, i often had to take off work, spend HOURS stressing at the computer, etc. this year, while not thrilled that i could only buy tix to ONE of my local shows, i AM still happy. i had ZERO stress trying for tix, managed to score 10c tix to brooklyn 1, and bought a friend's spare for brooklyn 2. yea, it's new and different, but c'est la vie.