SURVEY MONKEY RESULTS - LEG 1

know1

CO278952 wrote:

know1 wrote:

CO278952 wrote:

Something is either wrong with the lottery system or your data if people choosing GA for Brooklyn 2 as their 2nd choice got tickets because I lost it as my first choice and was locked out of all other picks.

Did you win ANY Brooklyn ticket - Brooklyn 1 GA or Reserved?

No my picks were as follows since I am flying up from Orlando and would prefer to attend 10/19 (which i will now through ticketmaster) but would also like the best possible spot so would "settle" for friday. Sucks to lose all picks. I don't understand how it is possible for anyone who got GA for Brooklyn 2 if it was not their 1st priority pick based on the 10c lottery rules.

Brooklyn 2 GA
Brooklyn 1 GA
Brooklyn 2 Res
Brooklyn 1 Res

I feel like I have as good a handle on how the lottery worked as anyone, but I can't explain that either. If Brooklyn GA 2 was your first priority and you didn't get it when others who had it has second priority did, it doesn't make sense.

Maybe they're lying or mistaken. Have you double-checked that it was your first priority?

RKCNDY

mrussel1 wrote:

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

76% won their first choice? More than statistically significant.

That's right. I think much of the backlash has been coming from certain shows: NYC, Dallas, OKC and Seattle. Those appear to have been heavy volume. Those that went 'All or None' on one of these shows were most likely to be disappointed.

I put in for 4 shows, I lost out on Seattle as my #1 and #2 choice and got my # 4, #5, and #8 picks <

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though I think those shows were not as in demand, I don't recall people complaining they didn't get tickets to those shows, so maybe 10c has leftovers?

So I have bad luck? (I didn't participate in the survey as it got buried among all the bitchy threads)

know1

mrussel1 wrote:

know1 wrote:

CO278952 wrote:

Something is either wrong with the lottery system or your data if people choosing GA for Brooklyn 2 as their 2nd choice got tickets because I lost it as my first choice and was locked out of all other picks.

Did you win ANY Brooklyn ticket - Brooklyn 1 GA or Reserved?

The data isn't actually saying that. I didn't crosstab specific requests vs. wins. I am only showing where the volume of requests for choice 1-3 exist, and where people won choice 1-10. Those data elements aren't correlating. Hope I'm being clear.

Got it. So maybe nobody got Brooklyn 2 GA with a second choice?

mrussel1

That's exactly right. Not saying something isn't wrong with the lottery, but this data isn't showing that.

pjsteelerfan

know1 wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

know1 wrote:

The data isn't actually saying that. I didn't crosstab specific requests vs. wins. I am only showing where the volume of requests for choice 1-3 exist, and where people won choice 1-10. Those data elements aren't correlating. Hope I'm being clear.

Got it. So maybe nobody got Brooklyn 2 GA with a second choice?

That is what I think it is saying. People had it listed as their #2 pick, but it is not saying they actually won it with the #2 pick, or lower for that matter.

CO278952

know1 wrote:

Got it. So maybe nobody got Brooklyn 2 GA with a second choice?

I am thinking the data entry is messed up and that i just lost out due to high demand and bad luck of the draw. The data is misleading since it shows red, green and blue (choices 1, 2 and 3) in the graph for GA in Brooklyn when I have to believe these tickets went to 1st priority picks only.

CO278952

CO278952 wrote:

know1 wrote:

Got it. So maybe nobody got Brooklyn 2 GA with a second choice?

I am thinking the data entry is messed up and that i just lost out due to high demand and bad luck of the draw. The data is misleading since it shows red, green and blue (choices 1, 2 and 3) in the graph for GA in Brooklyn when I have to believe these tickets went to 1st priority picks only.

let me correct that.. my interpretation of the graph was wrong. i see now it is just showing popular picks not winning picks.

BoltOfLightnin'

I didn't participate in the survey, but I did get my first choice, which was Philly night 1 GA.

ptricia435

mrussel1 wrote:

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

76% won their first choice? More than statistically significant.

That's right. I think much of the backlash has been coming from certain shows: NYC, Dallas, OKC and Seattle. Those appear to have been heavy volume. Those that went 'All or None' on one of these shows were most likely to be disappointed.

I think that what is more than statistically significant is that 76% of the people who responded to the poll won their first choice - not 76% of all who entered. The data is interesting, but it's only a sample, and any conclusions drawn from it should include that caveat.


"76% of those that responded to the poll won their first choice? More than statistically significant."

mrussel1

ptricia435 wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

76% won their first choice? More than statistically significant.

That's right. I think much of the backlash has been coming from certain shows: NYC, Dallas, OKC and Seattle. Those appear to have been heavy volume. Those that went 'All or None' on one of these shows were most likely to be disappointed.

I think that what is more than statistically significant is that 76% of the people who responded to the poll won their first choice - not 76% of all who entered. The data is interesting, but it's only a sample, and any conclusions drawn from it should include that caveat.


"76% of those that responded to the poll won their first choice? More than statistically significant."

Your argument is that the sample is inherently biased therefore not an accurate representation of the population that entered the lottery. I think that may be true but I don't know. IF it's not biased, then this sample size is more than enough to achieve a 95/5/5 objective. Once you are over 383, you are there. Now if you want to splice and evaluate each show, then I agree, it's not there.

mookieblalock

mrussel1 is right. Anyone with a statistics background knows that the sample size is indeed enough to be deemed significantly significant.

CS6127

mrussel1 wrote:

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

76% won their first choice? More than statistically significant.

That's right. I think much of the backlash has been coming from certain shows: NYC, Dallas, OKC and Seattle. Those appear to have been heavy volume. Those that went 'All or None' on one of these shows were most likely to be disappointed.

Was seniority factored into the draw? I figured it must've been, b/c I went 'all or none' on Brooklyn and Dallas, and got first choice Brooklyn (other 3 Brooklyns were thus denied), then got priority 2 on Dallas (priority 1 Dallas denied). That's all I went for. My member number is 125xxx. Either that, or I was just lucky.

mrussel1

CS6127 wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

76% won their first choice? More than statistically significant.

That's right. I think much of the backlash has been coming from certain shows: NYC, Dallas, OKC and Seattle. Those appear to have been heavy volume. Those that went 'All or None' on one of these shows were most likely to be disappointed.

Was seniority factored into the draw? I figured it must've been, b/c I went 'all or none' on Brooklyn and Dallas, and got first choice Brooklyn (other 3 Brooklyns were thus denied), then got priority 2 on Dallas (priority 1 Dallas denied). That's all I went for. My member number is 125xxx. Either that, or I was just lucky.

I think seniority was factored into the Reserved drawing, but not the GA. I have a higher number and therefore went GA for my first choice. Also, I think it said that you could only win one set of tickets per city. So 4 choices for B'klyn would only get you one set max. Looks like it worked out for you.

DV170178

Many thanks! Really great work!

CranMalReign

Good data! Philly on the 9th priority is weird!

CranMalReign

Also, you spelled Pittsburgh wrong. :nono:

It hurts my heart!

mrussel1

CranMalReign wrote:

Also, you spelled Pittsburgh wrong. :nono:

It hurts my heart!

I actually didn't build the survey... BUT.. I'm from Cleveland so I would have spelled it wrong anyway.

How 'bout them Pirates! No collapse coming?

CranMalReign

mrussel1 wrote:

I'm from Cleveland so I would have spelled it wrong anyway.

mrussel1 wrote:

How 'bout them Pirates! No collapse coming?

I've been burned 2 yrs in a row. This year, I will protect myself by waiting for a collapse up until they clinch a playoff spot or the season ends (whichever comes first). They did just lose a series to the Marlins, after all! :fp:

davidvanb

CS6127 wrote:

Was seniority factored into the draw? I figured it must've been, b/c I went 'all or none' on Brooklyn and Dallas, and got first choice Brooklyn (other 3 Brooklyns were thus denied), then got priority 2 on Dallas (priority 1 Dallas denied). That's all I went for. My member number is 125xxx. Either that, or I was just lucky.

Seniority was not factored into the lottery at all. All 10c members, regardless of number, had the same odds of winning the lottery. However after the lottery was decided, seniority will determine location of Reserved seats.

rr165892

davidvanb wrote:

CS6127 wrote:

Was seniority factored into the draw? I figured it must've been, b/c I went 'all or none' on Brooklyn and Dallas, and got first choice Brooklyn (other 3 Brooklyns were thus denied), then got priority 2 on Dallas (priority 1 Dallas denied). That's all I went for. My member number is 125xxx. Either that, or I was just lucky.

Seniority was not factored into the lottery at all. All 10c members, regardless of number, had the same odds of winning the lottery. However after the lottery was decided, seniority will determine location of Reserved seats.

I thought it was still random draw for rows 1 and 2 ,9,10 with 10c numbers placing for all other and middle rows??????