Choosing Lottery Priority... ARGH!

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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 44,388
    mookieblalock wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Will somebody confirm this for me?

    I put in for Philly Night 1...both GA and reserved as well as Philly Night 2...both GA and reserved. So that's four entries for Philly...but I can only get one pair of tickets right?

    Yes. If you win once, your other 3 entries are automatically withdrawn (based on your preference).

    I did that too :lol: and four more as well, two for Baltimore and two for Brooklyn (night 2). Grand total of 8 choices and $1352 :fp: :corn:
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    9/4/18- Boston, MA
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,037
    eeriepadave wrote:
    mookieblalock wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Will somebody confirm this for me?

    I put in for Philly Night 1...both GA and reserved as well as Philly Night 2...both GA and reserved. So that's four entries for Philly...but I can only get one pair of tickets right?

    Yes. If you win once, your other 3 entries are automatically withdrawn (based on your preference).

    I did that too :lol: and four more as well, two for Baltimore and two for Brooklyn (night 2). Grand total of 8 choices and $1352 :fp: :corn:

    Yeah I did it for Brooklyn as well as Philly. I just didn't mention it in my post. So I too have 8 choices...but can only win 2.
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  • cmm6734
    cmm6734 Houston, TX Posts: 569
    edited July 2013
    The way I read the rules, you can only win one pair of tickets per night.

    I went back and revised my statement. I guess you can only win tickets for one of the two nights were they are playing a 2 night stand.
    Post edited by cmm6734 on
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,490
    edited July 2013
    ShouldHaveBeenSomething wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Will somebody confirm this for me?

    I put in for Philly Night 1...both GA and reserved as well as Philly Night 2...both GA and reserved. So that's four entries for Philly...but I can only get one pair of tickets right?

    Nope. That's the problem with the system. You could (VERY BIG COULD) end up with tickets to Night 1 and tickets to Night 2...

    There is no way I can see to say I want tickets to EITHER Night 1 OR Night 2 if I dont get Night 1.

    So the direct answer to your question is that you COULD end up with one pair of tickets to EACH show.

    Edit: you better clarify that with an email to the 10c... It says you can request (and get) tickets to however many shows you want. It doesn't state you must put in separate orders for each show. It's a new system (especially for multiple night shows) so you'd be better off clarifying IMHO.
    I thought it said that you can only win one set of tix for each VENUE. If you win tix to night 1, then you can't win them for night 2 (and vice versa). Did I read that wrong?

    Edit: Ah, here we go: "- For LA, Brooklyn, and Philadelphia you may enter for both performance dates for each city, but can only be drawn for one of the two dates. These are cities where we often have more fans than tickets available; therefore we must limit our members to only being drawn for one of two nights to spread the love around the Ten Club as much as possible."
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PearlJamPatriot
    PearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    ShouldHaveBeenSomething wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Will somebody confirm this for me?

    I put in for Philly Night 1...both GA and reserved as well as Philly Night 2...both GA and reserved. So that's four entries for Philly...but I can only get one pair of tickets right?

    Edit: Whoops Night 1 and Night 2, so yes only one pair.
    For Philly & Brooklyn, you can only get selected for one of the 2 nights.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    mookieblalock wrote:

    your argument was that you have the same chance, and you don't. You yourself just admitted that the ranking IS important. It was non existant before.
    dont get me started about before..and the tricks..if u knew them u score,if not,you was fucked...

    ranking put u in one place...to realise thats almost impossible to win more than one pair...

    from there u have the same chance with the rest fans they choose the same shows as you..


    you cant have the same chances for ny as me if i choose ny show as number 1 and you choose boston as number 1

    its logic..

    but with the fans choose the same priority at the same shows you have same chances..

    again..huge demand..the only chances you got is one pair..people need to understand that..

    and that the whole idea behnd that...not same people score more than once...

    more different fans get them...its really simple..


    and in the end ALL fan clkub tixc goes to fan club members..not to you and me this time..
    to some other members..all deserve those fan club tix the same..

    why i should have pro with that?
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  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Just bumping this up. Need to read into this later when kids are sleeping and am interested in as many viewpoints as possible. Yeah 2013 tour!!!
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  • smak
    smak Posts: 241
    I don't know what the reasoning behind the reserved and GA being different choices per show.

    Just put a box that says "GA tickets ok". When they come to your name in the seniority list, if GA is ok, give them GA if available. If GA is not ok, go to the next best seats.

    Making each one a priority just gums up the works, and makes people not get tickets for a show, even though there are tickets available in the other category.

    Is there really anybody who would not want the other type of ticket, if the type they chose first isn't available?
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,147
    smak wrote:
    I don't know what the reasoning behind the reserved and GA being different choices per show.

    Just put a box that says "GA tickets ok". When they come to your name in the seniority list, if GA is ok, give them GA if available. If GA is not ok, go to the next best seats.

    Making each one a priority just gums up the works, and makes people not get tickets for a show, even though there are tickets available in the other category.

    Is there really anybody who would not want the other type of ticket, if the type they chose first isn't available?

    This would be optimal.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,619
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    mookieblalock wrote:

    your argument was that you have the same chance, and you don't. You yourself just admitted that the ranking IS important. It was non existant before.
    dont get me started about before..and the tricks..if u knew them u score,if not,you was fucked...

    ranking put u in one place...to realise thats almost impossible to win more than one pair...

    from there u have the same chance with the rest fans they choose the same shows as you    ..


    you cant have the same chances for ny as me if i choose ny show as number 1 and you choose boston as number 1

    its logic..

    but with the fans choose the same priority at the same shows you have same chances..

    again..huge demand..the only chances you got is one pair..people need to understand that..

    and that the whole idea behnd that...not same people score more than once...

    more different fans get them...its really simple..


    and in the end ALL fan clkub tixc goes to fan club members..not to you and me this time..
    to some other members..all deserve those fan club tix the same..

    why i should have pro with that?

    I guess you just don't get my point then. The chances aren't the same. Some folks can potentially go to multiple shows, while others can be completely shut out. No fairness in that IMO.
  • Given2Fly
    Given2Fly Seattle Posts: 169
    smak wrote:
    I don't know what the reasoning behind the reserved and GA being different choices per show.

    Just put a box that says "GA tickets ok". When they come to your name in the seniority list, if GA is ok, give them GA if available. If GA is not ok, go to the next best seats.

    Making each one a priority just gums up the works, and makes people not get tickets for a show, even though there are tickets available in the other category.

    Is there really anybody who would not want the other type of ticket, if the type they chose first isn't available?

    Yeah, this was my first thought when trying to figure out what the heck I'm going to do. This would have made it a zillion times less annoying.
  • YLed2
    YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    edited July 2013
    Fuck.

    I was already going to be unproductive at work this week and get nothing accomplished thinking about and getting excited for Wrigley next week. None of the locations are close by and I will be traveling and planning some vacation (which is fine by me), but I'm planning on making at least 3-5 shows this year. Now how do I strategize and prioritize my selections?

    Fuck. My brain hurts.

    :crazy: :lol:
    Post edited by YLed2 on
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  • Griff14
    Griff14 Posts: 36
    They should just let all 10C members who want to go to a show buy presales tickets. We all know that if we don't win the lottery than the scalpers will clean up the rest of the tickets anyways :(
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  • Goatboy
    Goatboy Posts: 509
    smak wrote:
    I don't know what the reasoning behind the reserved and GA being different choices per show.

    Just put a box that says "GA tickets ok". When they come to your name in the seniority list, if GA is ok, give them GA if available. If GA is not ok, go to the next best seats.

    Making each one a priority just gums up the works, and makes people not get tickets for a show, even though there are tickets available in the other category.

    Is there really anybody who would not want the other type of ticket, if the type they chose first isn't available?

    dmb does this
    really, there should be 3 options. 1. I only want GA, 2. I only want seats, and 3. I will take the best available I don't care which I get. this makes the most sense.
  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,619
    I would have FAR LESS of a disagreement with the new system if it weren't for having to include separate rankings for GA and Reserved for the same show. For example, if you rank your shows this way:

    1. Brooklyn 1 GA
    2. Brooklyn 1 Reserved
    3. Hartford Reserved

    and someone else ranks:

    1. Brooklyn 1 Reserved
    2. Hartford Reserved
    3. Brooklyn 1 GA


    Person 1 can be shut out completely, while person 2 gets tix to 2 show.....

    What's the point of the new GA system when you don't even try for it because there are less tickets to be had? It doesn't make any sense. It would make MUCH MORE SENSE to include everyone in one grouping for a show; GA and Reserved combined instead of TWO rankings.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    mookieblalock wrote:
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    I guess you just don't get my point then. The chances aren't the same. Some folks can potentially go to multiple shows, while others can be completely shut out. No fairness in that IMO.
    no...you dont get my point...there is NO multiple shows anymore..thats im trying to tell you..there is no such thing..you choose 1st priority and if u are are lucky u are in,,no luck??ticketmaster or spare 10c tiux is the way..with the demand out there is impossible to get more than one show and gets your 2nd priority
    the days of multiple shows with 10c tix,is ended 1 year ago..
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  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    mookieblalock wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    its time to realise the truth here...

    if wasnt the lottery and was previous system,and instead of priority of lottery they tell you..:

    you can only buy one pair per tour only .wouldnt be the same???

    you got only one chance for one pair if you could score with f-5 and the site crash.....so its actually the same

    dont confuse the lottery with priority

    they could say 1 pair for tour only and you would be screw as you say even with other selling system than lottery..

    the band deside..more tix to more different fans ,GA shows for more fan club tixc and GA shows for more energy..

    only the ones dont want to see it ...cant see it..


    The BIG difference is, when you were allowed ONLY 1 pair, you were guaranteed tickets by seniority. Now you have to RANK your preference and could still get shut out. For example, If I rank Wocester GA #1 and Wocester Reserved Seated #2....I could end up with NOTHING. Where if someone else ranks Wocester Reserved #1 they could end up with seating while I do not. Whereas before at least you didn't have to use god damn STRATEGY to maximize your odds. Your chances were your chances. You only had to pick the show. Now it has become a game.
    yes,but back then the memebrship numbers was 200xxx...and now is 500xxx
    and after the last interview of Tim,we know there are active 200.000.....the demand is unreal...
    pj is a huge band.,.ALL want to see..ther eis no perfect system to score tix,and all be pleased..
    1 thing i know..all tickets goes to members..how?????with strategy at priority as you say..
    which means nothing if u think about it ,cos u need to be lucky to win the draw,no matter the strategy
    and to that proccess,and thats the important no one can do anything..no more "power"



    Lets see pearl jam do a true tour of the usa....Pearl Jam isn't super popular like you think?.....Its how the they setup the touring...Which makes the band in so high demand.....Less touring means the tickets will be higher demand...

    jeremy
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    if wasnt the lottery and was previous system,and instead of priority of lottery they tell you..:

    you can only buy one pair per tour only .wouldnt be the same???

    you got only one chance for one pair if you could score with f-5 and the site crash.....so its actually the same

    dont confuse the lottery with priority

    they could say 1 pair for tour only and you would be screw as you say even with other selling system than lottery..

    the band deside..more tix to more different fans ,GA shows for more fan club tixc and GA shows for more energy..

    only the ones dont want to see it ...cant see it..[/quote]


    The BIG difference is, when you were allowed ONLY 1 pair, you were guaranteed tickets by seniority. Now you have to RANK your preference and could still get shut out. For example, If I rank Wocester GA #1 and Wocester Reserved Seated #2....I could end up with NOTHING. Where if someone else ranks Wocester Reserved #1 they could end up with seating while I do not. Whereas before at least you didn't have to use god damn STRATEGY to maximize your odds. Your chances were your chances. You only had to pick the show. Now it has become a game.[/quote]
    yes,but back then the memebrship numbers was 200xxx...and now is 500xxx
    and after the last interview of Tim,we know there are active 200.000.....the demand is unreal...
    pj is a huge band.,.ALL want to see..ther eis no perfect system to score tix,and all be pleased..
    1 thing i know..all tickets goes to members..how?????with strategy at priority as you say..
    which means nothing if u think about it ,cos u need to be lucky to win the draw,no matter the strategy
    and to that proccess,and thats the important no one can do anything..no more "power"[/quote]



    Lets see pearl jam do a true tour of the usa....Pearl Jam isn't super popular like you think?.....Its how the they setup the touring...Which makes the band in so high demand.....Less touring means the tickets will be higher demand...

    jeremy
  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,619
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    mookieblalock wrote:
    [

    I guess you just don't get my point then. The chances aren't the same. Some folks can potentially go to multiple shows, while others can be completely shut out. No fairness in that IMO.
    no...you dont get my point...there is NO multiple shows anymore..thats im trying to tell you..there is no such thing..you choose 1st priority and if u are are lucky u are in,,no luck??ticketmaster or spare 10c tiux is the way..with the demand out there is impossible to get more than one show and gets your 2nd priority
    the days of multiple shows with 10c tix,is ended 1 year ago..

    I'll be sure to bump this post when the first person scores tickets to multiple shows. I'll eat my words when it doesn't.
  • Goatboy
    Goatboy Posts: 509
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    mookieblalock wrote:
    [

    I guess you just don't get my point then. The chances aren't the same. Some folks can potentially go to multiple shows, while others can be completely shut out. No fairness in that IMO.
    no...you dont get my point...there is NO multiple shows anymore..thats im trying to tell you..there is no such thing..you choose 1st priority and if u are are lucky u are in,,no luck??ticketmaster or spare 10c tiux is the way..with the demand out there is impossible to get more than one show and gets your 2nd priority
    the days of multiple shows with 10c tix,is ended 1 year ago..

    then why do they include that in the ticket guidelines. it clearly states you may be selected for multiple shows.

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