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pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
edited June 2013 in The Porch
Okay, how do you guys feel about Habit? I for one think it's probably the worst song in the Pearl Jam catalogue. It just doesn't sound like a PJ song to me. Maybe because the song is too heavy, and by heavy I mean like "metal" heavy. The lyrics don't do much for me either. I just never liked this song and was wondering if anyone else felt the same...or not. Thoughts??
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    or not.... :shock:
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  • pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
    pjtradeking wrote:
    or not.... :shock:
    So I take it that you like Habit?
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    pearljam133 wrote:
    pjtradeking wrote:
    or not.... :shock:
    So I take it that you like Habit?

    Yes...not in my top 10 by any means....but no dislike at all..actually dig the lyrics/message too.... Might be just me! :-)
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    Dr. Delight wrote:
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  • papa_pearls_jam.pj20papa_pearls_jam.pj20 Posts: 2,142
    One of their worst songs? No. I think it's very poignant, considering the history of the band, where they've come from and what may not have been.

    Habit at PJ20 with Liam Finn was awesome.
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  • jumbojetjumbojet Posts: 1,484
    What is wrong with heavy?

    Prescription: 36 straight hours of great Heavy Metal music like Metallica or Iron Maiden.

    And then revisit Habit, Hail Hail, Spin the black circle.

    You'll be cured from heavy disease.
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  • pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
    papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:
    One of their worst songs? No. I think it's very poignant, considering the history of the band, where they've come from and what may not have been.

    Habit at PJ20 with Liam Finn was awesome.
    I guess I'm the only one. I just think the actual music for the song stands out as being poor compared to pretty much every other song they've ever done (exaggerating a little). It sounds like the music to a shitty early Soundgarden song. The lyrics are decent I guess. But it doesn't fit in with the rest of No Code to me, you can disagree, that's fine. I respect everyone's opinion. This is just how I feel about it.
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  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    Dr. Delight wrote:
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    :lol: :!:

    i love habit

    i wish pj did more very heavy shit
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  • loffy81loffy81 Posts: 153
    speaking as a child of the 90's.......I LOVE IT!
  • papa_pearls_jam.pj20papa_pearls_jam.pj20 Posts: 2,142
    pearljam133 wrote:
    papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:
    One of their worst songs? No. I think it's very poignant, considering the history of the band, where they've come from and what may not have been.

    Habit at PJ20 with Liam Finn was awesome.
    I guess I'm the only one. I just think the actual music for the song stands out as being poor compared to pretty much every other song they've ever done (exaggerating a little). It sounds like the music to a shitty early Soundgarden song. The lyrics are decent I guess. But it doesn't fit in with the rest of No Code to me, you can disagree, that's fine. I respect everyone's opinion. This is just how I feel about it.
    Maybe, I'm one of the only ones in this opinion, but, I think the band writes songs from something inside and to illustrate a point worth making, without stopping to think if it's going to sound like a creative masterpiece or not.
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  • Jerome230Jerome230 Posts: 903
    From the moment I heard the Soldier Field boot, I was in love with Habit. As I was listening to the boot through headphones, it came completely out of left field, and knocked me back.

    I remember going to the record store on a hot Tuesday at the end of July in 1996, and seeing that the single for Who You Are was just released that day. I looked to see if there were any B-Sides, and lo and behold, my heart started beating out of my chest as I saw "HABIT", scrawled in bold typeface, white on blue. I had no idea that it was going to be on their forthcoming album, the mighty No Code. I always assumed the guitar solo outro was Mike, learning later that it was instead a Stone solo (maybe the closest thing the entire No Code album had for a solo?). After honing my ear throughout the years, I could soon pick out a Stone solo from a mile away on just about any live boot, but I digress...

    I can see why many people wouldn't like the song - it didn't necessarily fit the PJ mold, and perhaps that was the point. After all, Ed deliberately made Who You Are the first single, intending to keep the size of the band's audience down. [See Ed's interview from SPIN Magazine, Feb 1997]

    In closing, Habit is on my bucket list to see them play live - although, if the PJ20 version is indicative of how it's gonna sound, I'm not so sure. No offense to the great Liam Finn, but the band de-tuned their guitars a half step to accommodate Ed's changing voice.
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  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    I rank habit pretty high. Its a great song and stands far above many many other pj rockers. I also love how it completely shatters the slow mood after off he goes :)
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  • jumbojetjumbojet Posts: 1,484
    pearljam133 wrote:
    I guess I'm the only one. I just think the actual music for the song stands out as being poor compared to pretty much every other song they've ever done (exaggerating a little). It sounds like the music to a shitty early Soundgarden song. The lyrics are decent I guess. But it doesn't fit in with the rest of No Code to me, you can disagree, that's fine. I respect everyone's opinion. This is just how I feel about it.

    It is OK to be teenager and form opinions. I will not try to preach you or anytg, just bear in mind that your horizons can change widely as you age.
    I remember when I was a teenager; seeing Paul Simon, Boy in the Bubble album on the top of the lists and buying it only to hate it. I didnt get it at that time but years later, I was going out my mind with it. These kind of things happen as you go through life.
    One day, you may wanna revisit this song. It is just brilliant, as the entire PJ catalogue.
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    loffy81 wrote:
    speaking as a child of the 90's.......I LOVE IT!

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    Classic Vedder snarl along with a brilliant McCready solo at the end. What else could you ask for??
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  • Daron OshayDaron Oshay Posts: 2,549
    papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:
    One of their worst songs? No. I think it's very poignant, considering the history of the band, where they've come from and what may not have been.

    Habit at PJ20 with Liam Finn was awesome.

    I would say the same
  • Come Back in BlackCome Back in Black Posts: 659
    I love their heavier stuff. I love Spin the Black Circle, Blood, Lukin.. etc. But I agree that Habit blows. I skip the album version everytime.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,252
    Top ten song for me. Love it. "Heavy" Pearl Jam is some of my favorite PJ. "Shitty" early Soundgarden songs are my preferred ones so maybe that's why I love Habit. Someone mentioned Ed and Liam Finn doing it at PJ20, one of the best moments of the weekend!
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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    Speaking as someone who pahks his cah at the gahden.

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  • pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
    The thing is, I love Blood and Spin The Black Circle. They're heavier songs but I dig them. Habit just sounds too loose and amateur-ish. Its like they didn't put much thought into it.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    pearljam133 wrote:
    The thing is, I love Blood and Spin The Black Circle. They're heavier songs but I dig them. Habit just sounds too loose and amateur-ish. Its like they didn't put much thought into it.
    no worries!!!they put thought at Ole and Supersonic!!!!
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  • pearljam133pearljam133 Posts: 202
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    pearljam133 wrote:
    The thing is, I love Blood and Spin The Black Circle. They're heavier songs but I dig them. Habit just sounds too loose and amateur-ish. Its like they didn't put much thought into it.
    no worries!!!they put thought at Ole and Supersonic!!!!
    :lol::lol:
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  • The Big CheeseThe Big Cheese Posts: 255
    Personally I love habit (esp pinkpop 2000 version).

    They should def play more, would be good as an opener just to blow away any cobwebs.

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  • papa_pearls_jam.pj20papa_pearls_jam.pj20 Posts: 2,142
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    pearljam133 wrote:
    The thing is, I love Blood and Spin The Black Circle. They're heavier songs but I dig them. Habit just sounds too loose and amateur-ish. Its like they didn't put much thought into it.
    no worries!!!they put thought at Ole and Supersonic!!!!
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  • CharliePCharlieP Posts: 1,035
    I totally hear you.
    It's the only PJ song I never really liked. Due to the same reasons you mention

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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    Jerome230 wrote:
    (maybe the closest thing the entire No Code album had for a solo?)


    Isn't Red Mosquito kind of one big solo?
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