Outdoor or Indoor Venues???
So having a freindly discussion with one of my Houston neighbors on another thread......and got me wondering if my fellow PJ fans have preference of outdoor to indoor venues.
What do you prefer, outdoor or indoor and why?
Or if it deosn't matter one way or another.
What do you prefer, outdoor or indoor and why?
Or if it deosn't matter one way or another.
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really hate the outdoor shows, on the whole. the seating, the atmosphere, and the sound, are all inferior, imho.
i would take the 400 seats in any stadium over the lawn in any amphitheatre.
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On my bucket list of locales to see a show.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
The Gorge:
2005 - Sunny, Warm (maybe just over 20 degrees celcius)
2006 - Too Hot. Over 40 degrees C!! (almost 120 F)... I was so burned out by the time they started playing. There's no shade at the Gorge (or barely any). You cook alive out there if its hot.
Memorial Stadium Seattle '98 - Friggin Awesome!
Grizzy Stadium - Missoula '98 - Friggin Awesome!
Olympic Stadium - Calgary '09 - Horribly laid out venue - Friggin' Great atmosphere.
I guess I really like the outdoor venues as long as the weather was decent. Most of the outdoor shows I've seen were right around 20 degrees outside, perfect concert temp. 40 degrees was too hot
It could just be the energy at GA shows (which many outdoor venues tend to be). That Calgary '09 show felt really vintage to me. Lots of older songs in the setlist, the crowd was insanely energetic, and Eddie seemed to be his Old School self. I really enjoyed that show
Edit: One of my favorite non PJ shows was out doors. It was AC/DC in Edmonton about 3 or 4 years ago? A big Thunderstorm blew over during the concert. We had shitloads of rain and lightning while the band played. The crowd toughed it out and the band toughed it out. They had to use the squeegee broom type things to push the water off the stage/walkway between songs.... it was epic. Imagine lightning and thunder everywhere while they are actually playing Thunderstruck
and i intend to keep that promise..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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outdoors- if it is the gorge. if you have never been to the gorge- put it on your bucket list.
EV Long Beach 7/6/11 , LA Wiltern (miracled in) 7/8/11, EV Benaroya Hall 10/24/23
Much better atmosphere, dunno how indoors could ever compete with that for a band like PJ.
In my experience the sound has been much better at amphitheaters, as well. Indoors is loud and echo-y and outdoors the sound can breathe. My only gripe is that it's sometimes not as loud, but I'll take that as long as I can make out the music.
If condtions are great, temp is good, you have a covered seat, etc, etc. I'd always prefer this. I live 30 mins from Alpine Valley and I honestly believe it is a top 5 outdoor place to see a show anywhere based on a lot of things mostly being the sound is always great and if you have a seat you are covered.
Of course, things do not always work out that way, it could rain (ie. PJ20 day one which was a mess...lucky for me that was my night with a seat). It could be freezing (ie Alpine in 2000, the forever dubbed "ice bowl"...that was insane, but I kind of blame the band for schedueing an outdoor show in Wisconsin in Oct).
So all of that said I guess it's a risk/reward thing... do you want an indoor place, where you know exactly what you are going to get no matter what, or do you want an outdoor venue where it could be a magical summer night under the stars or a cold rainy mess? I vote outdoor and I'll take my chances....like scheduling an outdoor wedding...it's either going to be awesome and better than you imagined, or it's going to be a cold rainy day and everyone is going to be pissed off!
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03' - 4/25
06' - 6/29, 6/30
07' - 8/05
09' - 8/23
11' - 9/03, 9/04
12' - 9/30
13' - 7/16, 7/19, 10/21, 10/22, 11/15, 11/16, 12/06
14' - 06/28, 06/29, 10/1, 10/03, 10/16, 10/17, 10/20, 10/22
15' - 11/20, 11/22
16' - 4/21, 4/26, 4/28, 4/29, 5/1, 5/2, 7/9, 8/5, 8/7, 8/20, 8/22
17' - 4/7
18' - 7/1, 7/3, 7/5, 8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20, 9/4
21' - 10/1, 10/2
22' - 7/12, 7/14, 9/6, 9/8
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2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
Standing for hours in the wet grass / mud on the floor under the sun / rain, BLOWS!!!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
What I will say is that I can't stand the half in, half out type of venues like Camden and Hartford. They are the worst of both worlds.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Fuck man, I love Toronto.
Every time, this venue alone wins the argument...
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12