Religion of Peace shouts “ALLAHU AKBAR”

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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    redrock wrote:
    stickfig13 wrote:
    What I find to be the most bizarre part of this story are the videos after the attack that show the murderer preaching to a camera about some political nonsense and people are just calmly milling around like nothing happened.

    All very shocking. Witnesses were saying that these two guys seemed to be completely 'out of it'. I don't think it's fair to say that people were 'calmly milling about like nothing had happened'. They were utterly shocked. The killers, bloodied and with their knives in hand, were just staying there, talking, asking people to take photos, etc. Totally bizarre behaviour.

    Not too sure why it's called a terrorist attack though... more light will be shed on the killers later, I suppose. Lots of speculation again but one must wait until the facts have been established. In the meantime, the ISB issued this statement...

    http://www.isb.org.uk/woolwich-terror-statement/

    Watch the video in this link. A lady walks right past the murderer as he is preaching
    http://www.nydailynews.com/man-murdered ... rce=buffer
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  • KM228407
    KM228407 Posts: 56
    ^^^^^i know and it took the police 30 minutes to arrive :fp: :fp:
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Wouldn't you? People weren't really expecting the killers to just hang around and chat. Due to the guy being hit by the car several people thought the killers were trying to give cpr and were approaching to help before realising it wasn't cpr at all. A very, very bizarre situation.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 47,058
    redrock wrote:
    stickfig13 wrote:
    What I find to be the most bizarre part of this story are the videos after the attack that show the murderer preaching to a camera about some political nonsense and people are just calmly milling around like nothing happened.

    All very shocking. Witnesses were saying that these two guys seemed to be completely 'out of it'. I don't think it's fair to say that people were 'calmly milling about like nothing had happened'. They were utterly shocked. The killers, bloodied and with their knives in hand, were just staying there, talking, asking people to take photos, etc. Totally bizarre behaviour.

    Not too sure why it's called a terrorist attack though... more light will be shed on the killers later, I suppose. Lots of speculation again but one must wait until the facts have been established. In the meantime, the ISB issued this statement...

    http://www.isb.org.uk/woolwich-terror-statement/
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime.


    In my opinion the media needs to seperate the religion of a suspect from the acts of crime committed.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    mickeyrat wrote:
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime.


    In my opinion the media needs to seperate the religion of a suspect from the acts of crime committed.


    There are already attacks on mosques and 'hate' mobs in the streets. Not surprised with the way some media have been reporting this, assuming so many things.... The EDL are inciting violence, the politicians are coming out in droves to use this to support there agenda..
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    redrock wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime.


    In my opinion the media needs to seperate the religion of a suspect from the acts of crime committed.


    There are already attacks on mosques and 'hate' mobs in the streets. Not surprised with the way some media have been reporting this, assuming so many things.... The EDL are inciting violence, the politicians are coming out in droves to use this to support there agenda..

    Is it a hate crime for a Muslim to kill a none Muslim just because he is NOT a Muslim? Is it a crime to report this?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 26,262
    i don' t think this is a terrorist attack.

    murder in the first for sure. but i do not think it was a terrorist attack.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    They were a pair of attention seeking assholes, who wanted their five minutes of fame.

    They don't represent Islam any more than those American Apache helicopter pilots blasting away women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan don't represent Christianity.

    Next.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 12,135
    edited May 2013
    Byrnzie wrote:
    They were a pair of attention seeking assholes, who wanted their five minutes of fame.

    They don't represent Islam any more than those American Apache helicopter pilots blasting away women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan don't represent Christianity.

    Next.

    While you're on about Americans yet again don't forget these guys...

    http://www.britisharmykillings.org.uk/category/2/Crimes-in-Ireland

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/03/04/291903/inquiry/
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    And...

    How the fuck can anyone dispute the death penalty as inappropriate for a couple of barbaric assholes such as these? Is there any doubt to who committed the crime? They are shoving their brutality in people's faces. Instead of taking the higher road... I suggest not.

    What the hell, man?

    Couple of low lifes thinking they are fighting the good fight. Pieces of shit that need to fry.

    Indisputable.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Bentleyspop wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    They were a pair of attention seeking assholes, who wanted their five minutes of fame.

    They don't represent Islam any more than those American Apache helicopter pilots blasting away women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan don't represent Christianity.

    Next.

    While you're on about Americans yet again don't forget these guys...

    http://www.britisharmykillings.org.uk/category/2/Crimes-in-Ireland

    A somewhat shameful and slightly forgotten (or overshadowed) chapter from recent history.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    And...

    How the fuck can anyone dispute the death penalty as inappropriate for a couple of barbaric assholes such as these? Is there any doubt to who committed the crime? They are shoving their brutality in people's faces. Instead of taking the higher road... I suggest not.

    What the hell, man?

    Couple of low lifes thinking they are fighting the good fight. Pieces of shit that need to fry.

    Indisputable.

    It's not indisputable that society needs to sink to their level by murdering them.
  • Pjzepp67
    Pjzepp67 Posts: 445
    hedonist wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    That poor young man...what a horrible way to die.

    (I thought guns were illegal over there?)


    And because of that he couldn't defend himself.
    To be fair, unsung, even if he had been armed, it sounds like a surprise attack. I'm not sure anyone could respond so quickly in those circumstances.

    I just can't conceive of this happening during the day, in the middle of the city, with people all around.

    I hope those two collaborating pieces of shit are punished fully. And in a shitload of pain from their wounds as they await justice.

    So fucked up and sad.

    The fuckers ran him over first then attacked him...he had no chance...such is the way these cowardly bastards opperate....scum.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    mickeyrat wrote:
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime..
    That explains why the vicious, targeted stabbing and killing of an older muslim man leaving the mosque is 'just' a crime then and no one bothers with this. Guess if his killer hung around, haranguing about muslims & god, it might have been different.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 47,058
    aerial wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime.


    In my opinion the media needs to seperate the religion of a suspect from the acts of crime committed.


    There are already attacks on mosques and 'hate' mobs in the streets. Not surprised with the way some media have been reporting this, assuming so many things.... The EDL are inciting violence, the politicians are coming out in droves to use this to support there agenda..

    Is it a hate crime for a Muslim to kill a none Muslim just because he is NOT a Muslim? Is it a crime to report this?
    perhaps if it was solely because the vicitm was not muslim. But from what I gather this was more akin to revenge for the killing of innocents during the various wars and conflicts the west has been involved in for the past 100 years. Not to mention the crusades so long ago. Seems folks have a long memory. Brutal merder. NOT TERRORISM.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 47,058
    redrock wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    its a terrorist attack because a muslim commited a crime..
    That explains why the vicious, targeted stabbing and killing of an older muslim man leaving the mosque is 'just' a crime then and no one bothers with this. Guess if his killer hung around, haranguing about muslims & god, it might have been different.
    This mix of religious belief and political bullshit has to end. Th e west needs to let these folks alone and work out their shit on their own. Because eof last ten years or longer , we'll see this kind of hatred continue for another 100 years or more.

    Furhter the media needs to "ho" check themselves about this "reporting" the way they do it now ensures a story later.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    TERRORISTS SCREAM “ALLAHU AKBAR” AS THEY CUT A BRITISH SOLDIER’S HEAD OFF IN BROAD DAYLIGHT

    http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/breaking-terrorists-scream-allahu-akbar-as-they-cut-a-british-soldiers-head-off-in-broad-daylight/

    A religion didn't kill that dude in London. An attention-seeking scumbag with a knife killed him. But I know you love any excuse to vent your hatred of all Muslims.

    Do you still believe all Muslims are pedophiles, Aerial?
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    KM228407 wrote:
    ^^^^^i know and it took the police 30 minutes to arrive :fp: :fp:

    Misinformation:
    "We first received a 999 call from the public at 14:20hrs stating a man was being attacked, further 999 calls stated that the attackers were in possession of a gun. We had officers at the scene within 9 minutes of receiving that first 999 call. Once that information about a gun or guns being present was known, firearms officers were assigned at 14:24hrs. Firearms officers were there and dealing with the incident 10 minutes after they were assigned, 14 minutes after the first call to the Met."


    All 'over and done with' within 14 minutes of first call from public.....
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Terrible crime.

    I don't think it's terrorism, though.

    But I don't believe in the concept labelling something a hate crime, either, just so you can up the punishment.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • hostis
    hostis Posts: 441
    the people who did this were d***s. nothing more nothing less. leave them alone to rot in a cell, don't give them any more air time and focus on the poor soldier who was murdered. HE deserves the media focus, not the perpetrators.

    (and to a certian extent guns are banned in the UK.... but if we decide to crack down on gun ownership more, only the very small minority will be against it)

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