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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I read the first dozen or so posts... then the last dozen or so posts (surprised the thread still had life)... so this may have already been said:

    OP... the creation of this thread and the spirit of it clearly reflect two things:

    1. Obama must be pretty damn good if this is something you have to grasp at to try and discredit him. With this said, be thankful you have him then.

    2. Your source of frustration for the man is puzzling. I mean, didn't Bush lower the bar to a point where afterwards, Charles Manson would have seemed like a godsend? The deep rooted and profound problems spawned by Bush's administration at a very minimum appear to be correcting themselves. This cannot have been easy; yet, I listen to Obama bashers slam him at every moment they can to voice their frustration over his inability to snap his fingers and simply erase the aftermath of disastrous economical and foreign polices so they disappear like an etch-a-sketch might with a child's bad drawing. Seriously? An umbrella for gawd's sakes?


    :clap::clap: the most important thing said in this unimportant thread.

    Peace
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    I read the first dozen or so posts... then the last dozen or so posts (surprised the thread still had life)... so this may have already been said:

    OP... the creation of this thread and the spirit of it clearly reflect two things:

    1. Obama must be pretty damn good if this is something you have to grasp at to try and discredit him. With this said, be thankful you have him then.

    2. Your source of frustration for the man is puzzling. I mean, didn't Bush lower the bar to a point where afterwards, Charles Manson would have seemed like a godsend? The deep rooted and profound problems spawned by Bush's administration at a very minimum appear to be correcting themselves. This cannot have been easy; yet, I listen to Obama bashers slam him at every moment they can to voice their frustration over his inability to snap his fingers and simply erase the aftermath of disastrous economical and foreign polices so they disappear like an etch-a-sketch might with a child's bad drawing. Seriously? An umbrella for gawd's sakes?

    Snap his finger?
    He is on his 5th year and hasn't done anything for this country yet.....How can anyone expect him to when he is always on "Tour" golfing, vacationing, has no account on about anything.....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,534
    edited May 2013
    aerial wrote:
    I read the first dozen or so posts... then the last dozen or so posts (surprised the thread still had life)... so this may have already been said:

    OP... the creation of this thread and the spirit of it clearly reflect two things:

    1. Obama must be pretty damn good if this is something you have to grasp at to try and discredit him. With this said, be thankful you have him then.

    2. Your source of frustration for the man is puzzling. I mean, didn't Bush lower the bar to a point where afterwards, Charles Manson would have seemed like a godsend? The deep rooted and profound problems spawned by Bush's administration at a very minimum appear to be correcting themselves. This cannot have been easy; yet, I listen to Obama bashers slam him at every moment they can to voice their frustration over his inability to snap his fingers and simply erase the aftermath of disastrous economical and foreign polices so they disappear like an etch-a-sketch might with a child's bad drawing. Seriously? An umbrella for gawd's sakes?

    Snap his finger?
    He is on his 5th year and hasn't done anything for this country yet.....How can anyone expect him to when he is always on "Tour" golfing, vacationing, has no account on about anything.....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke

    You like so many other regressives refuse do any research before making inflammatory remarks.
    Try doing just a tiny little bit of research and you may learn something.

    I assume you were also outraged during the Cheney/Rove regime when George W. Bush spent a grand total of 879 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch during his 8 years as President??
    And a total of 1020 vacation days during his time in the white house???.....
    Calls to several Presidential libraries reveal that President Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.

    Even President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was in office 12 years from 1933 to 1945, was on vacation less days than President Bush at 958 days. Calls to several Presidential Libraries reveal that no President can come close to Bush’s 1,020 days on vacation in an 8 year period. Even Lyndon Johnson, who spent 484 days at his ranch in Texas and at Camp David during his presidency, came in under Bush’s vacation time. Some claim the cost of Bush’s frequent trips to Crawford, Texas cost taxpayers upwards of $20 million, but the numbers are hard to confirm.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,534
    And in case you were interested here is more easily accessed information regarding presidential vacation days
    President Obama in his first four years has taken 131 days, dividing his time between Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard and, of course, Camp David, the official get away of U.S. presidents. At this rate, he could hit 262 days by the end of his eighth year, about average for modern presidents.

    He certainly is not the king of vacation days. That honor falls to President George W. Bush, who racked up 1,020 vacation days in his eight years in office, including one five-week vacation, the most of any president in 36 years. Not to say he wasn’t on the job when he was at his Crawford, Texas ranch, but he was away from the White House.

    And if we compare days off in the first year alone, President Bush still nabs the honor with 69 vacation days :o , President Obama with 26 and President Clinton with 19.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    And in case you were interested here is more easily accessed information regarding presidential vacation days
    President Obama in his first four years has taken 131 days, dividing his time between Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard and, of course, Camp David, the official get away of U.S. presidents. At this rate, he could hit 262 days by the end of his eighth year, about average for modern presidents.

    He certainly is not the king of vacation days. That honor falls to President George W. Bush, who racked up 1,020 vacation days in his eight years in office, including one five-week vacation, the most of any president in 36 years. Not to say he wasn’t on the job when he was at his Crawford, Texas ranch, but he was away from the White House.

    And if we compare days off in the first year alone, President Bush still nabs the honor with 69 vacation days :o , President Obama with 26 and President Clinton with 19.

    It appears aerial's blind hatred for the President is driven by something other than real facts.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    g under p wrote:
    And in case you were interested here is more easily accessed information regarding presidential vacation days
    President Obama in his first four years has taken 131 days, dividing his time between Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard and, of course, Camp David, the official get away of U.S. presidents. At this rate, he could hit 262 days by the end of his eighth year, about average for modern presidents.

    He certainly is not the king of vacation days. That honor falls to President George W. Bush, who racked up 1,020 vacation days in his eight years in office, including one five-week vacation, the most of any president in 36 years. Not to say he wasn’t on the job when he was at his Crawford, Texas ranch, but he was away from the White House.

    And if we compare days off in the first year alone, President Bush still nabs the honor with 69 vacation days :o , President Obama with 26 and President Clinton with 19.

    It appears aerial's blind hatred for the President is driven by something other than real facts.

    Peace

    Did I mention Bush....sorry but I thought we were talking about Obama......you have a link to that please
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,534
    aerial wrote:
    And in case you were interested here is more easily accessed information regarding presidential vacation days
    President Obama in his first four years has taken 131 days, dividing his time between Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard and, of course, Camp David, the official get away of U.S. presidents. At this rate, he could hit 262 days by the end of his eighth year, about average for modern presidents.

    He certainly is not the king of vacation days. That honor falls to President George W. Bush, who racked up 1,020 vacation days in his eight years in office, including one five-week vacation, the most of any president in 36 years. Not to say he wasn’t on the job when he was at his Crawford, Texas ranch, but he was away from the White House.

    And if we compare days off in the first year alone, President Bush still nabs the honor with 69 vacation days :o , President Obama with 26 and President Clinton with 19.

    It appears aerial's blind hatred for the President is driven by something other than real facts.

    Peace

    Did I mention Bush....sorry but I thought we were talking about Obama......you have a link to that please

    Less then 5 minutes on the Google and hear you go....

    http://www.crewof42.com/uncategorized/the-most-vacationing-president-in-u-s-history-george-w-bush/

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jan/7/president-obamas-back-hawaii-how-many-vacations-ha/

    http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/235844/deconstructing-the-5-most-ridiculous-myths-about-barack-obama
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Damn ya beat me to it. :evil:

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • oceaninmyeyes
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    while Bush spent more time outside of Washington than Obama, it is also worth nothing that nearly all of Bush's vacations were trips back to his Texas ranch or family vacation homes in Maine.
    The Post, in 2005, conceded that Bush's vacations--unlike Obama's--were not lavish and he did not "make time for fun."
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  • brianlux
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    Reminds me of that good old country song, "If I Said You Look Like and Umbrella Would You hold it Over Me?"
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  • vant0037
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    aerial wrote:
    while Bush spent more time outside of Washington than Obama, it is also worth nothing that nearly all of Bush's vacations were trips back to his Texas ranch or family vacation homes in Maine.
    The Post, in 2005, conceded that Bush's vacations--unlike Obama's--were not lavish and he did not "make time for fun."

    It is astounding the lengths that some will go to attack Obama. Once again, I thought there were several other scandals sure to result in impeachment...or are those losing traction too?

    The numbers - and pictures - are what they are. Obama has done nothing different here with regard to vacation or military-umbrella holding than any of his white predecessors.

    And yes, I'm starting to think that has something to do with it, at least on this issue...
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  • aerial wrote:
    I read the first dozen or so posts... then the last dozen or so posts (surprised the thread still had life)... so this may have already been said:

    OP... the creation of this thread and the spirit of it clearly reflect two things:

    1. Obama must be pretty damn good if this is something you have to grasp at to try and discredit him. With this said, be thankful you have him then.

    2. Your source of frustration for the man is puzzling. I mean, didn't Bush lower the bar to a point where afterwards, Charles Manson would have seemed like a godsend? The deep rooted and profound problems spawned by Bush's administration at a very minimum appear to be correcting themselves. This cannot have been easy; yet, I listen to Obama bashers slam him at every moment they can to voice their frustration over his inability to snap his fingers and simply erase the aftermath of disastrous economical and foreign polices so they disappear like an etch-a-sketch might with a child's bad drawing. Seriously? An umbrella for gawd's sakes?

    Snap his finger?
    He is on his 5th year and hasn't done anything for this country yet.....How can anyone expect him to when he is always on "Tour" golfing, vacationing, has no account on about anything.....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke

    Well...

    Your 'president on a holiday' babble has been shot to Hell.

    Your country is on the path to recovery. Are you so daft that you think a 2 year turnaround from the meltdown your country experienced is more appropriate than 5-10 years?

    The rest of this post is just junk and hatred. You say he doesn't know what's going on... well, then... one would think that this would be a guy you could really admire: you would have so much in common!

    Are you even going to try and dispel the subtle notions that have suggested your hatred for the man has much to do with the color of his skin versus his politics? Or... have these subtle allegations flown right over your head?
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  • Moonpig
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    aerial wrote:
    I read the first dozen or so posts... then the last dozen or so posts (surprised the thread still had life)... so this may have already been said:

    OP... the creation of this thread and the spirit of it clearly reflect two things:

    1. Obama must be pretty damn good if this is something you have to grasp at to try and discredit him. With this said, be thankful you have him then.

    2. Your source of frustration for the man is puzzling. I mean, didn't Bush lower the bar to a point where afterwards, Charles Manson would have seemed like a godsend? The deep rooted and profound problems spawned by Bush's administration at a very minimum appear to be correcting themselves. This cannot have been easy; yet, I listen to Obama bashers slam him at every moment they can to voice their frustration over his inability to snap his fingers and simply erase the aftermath of disastrous economical and foreign polices so they disappear like an etch-a-sketch might with a child's bad drawing. Seriously? An umbrella for gawd's sakes?

    Snap his finger?
    He is on his 5th year and hasn't done anything for this country yet.....How can anyone expect him to when he is always on "Tour" golfing, vacationing, has no account on about anything.....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke

    Well...

    Your 'president on a holiday' babble has been shot to Hell.

    Your country is on the path to recovery. Are you so daft that you think a 2 year turnaround from the meltdown your country experienced is more appropriate than 5-10 years?

    The rest of this post is just junk and hatred. You say he doesn't know what's going on... well, then... one would think that this would be a guy you could really admire: you would have so much in common!

    Are you even going to try and dispel the subtle notions that have suggested your hatred for the man has much to do with the color of his skin versus his politics? Or... have these subtle allegations flown right over your head?

    bingo
  • JonnyPistachio
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    aerial wrote:
    .....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke

    Do you realize that when you say silly things like this, it REALLY sounds like you just have a personal problem with the man? :?
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  • mikepegg44
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    aerial wrote:

    He is on his 5th year and hasn't done anything for this country yet.....How can anyone expect him to when he is always on "Tour" golfing, vacationing, has no account on about anything.....he feels he has no responsibilities....he never know whats going on, he says so himself when ever he is asked a question....he is a joke


    well, I don't like his politics but this isn't true. It is the kind of blanket statement that makes people dismiss actual criticisms that exist.

    He has done things for the country, things that many democrats celebrate. Ideology doesn't mean those things don't exist.

    Well...

    Your 'president on a holiday' babble has been shot to Hell.

    Your country is on the path to recovery. Are you so daft that you think a 2 year turnaround from the meltdown your country experienced is more appropriate than 5-10 years?

    The rest of this post is just junk and hatred. You say he doesn't know what's going on... well, then... one would think that this would be a guy you could really admire: you would have so much in common!

    Are you even going to try and dispel the subtle notions that have suggested your hatred for the man has much to do with the color of his skin versus his politics? Or... have these subtle allegations flown right over your head?

    it can be debated that we simply hopped back onto the same path that brought us the housing bubble. Recovery in the short term has been slow but certainly has been there, I would say though that the country being on this particular path to recovery, and the policies that are in place at the time of the recovery may add to a large long term problem, which is why some are not happy with the speed, cost, and policy direction of the "recovery"...but some are just going to hate him no matter what.

    but let's be realistic, does President Obama really come across as a person who is ordering someone to hold an umbrella for him? People may want to view him that way, but I highly doubt it. How about this, purchasing an outdoor podium that has its own rain shield...I know it would probably add 7 million dollars to the cost of the podium but it might be worth it if you are going to have outdoor press conferences.
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  • vant0037
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    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Recovery in the short term has been slow but certainly has been there, I would say though that the country being on this particular path to recovery, and the policies that are in place at the time of the recovery may add to a large long term problem, which is why some are not happy with the speed, cost, and policy direction of the "recovery"...but some are just going to hate him no matter what.

    I agree with most of your post, and whether or not you're correct in your statement that "the policies that are in place...may add to a large long term problem," I don't think that many of his critics are leveling those same objections to him. I don't think many of his critics have really any desire to actually critique him fairly or reasonably (as you have done) or on issues of merit. (See: "Umbrella-gate").
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  • JimmyV
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  • Jason P
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    Technically, Romney's umbrella person missed.
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