The Civil Wars just announced a new album

green_girl

They are so magnetic. Saw the live streaming of them at one of the festivals last year, and they had the audience mesmerized.

This cover is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3K7dP7n8s

Better Dan

green_girl wrote:

They are so magnetic. Saw the live streaming of them at one of the festivals last year, and they had the audience mesmerized.

This cover is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3K7dP7n8s

Thanks! I hadn't heard that one. I just downloaded some mp3s of some of their studio version songs on Amazon compilations that weren't on Barton Hollow and released in the past year made a 2012 - 2013 EP. All solid songs, IMO

1. From this Valley
2. Lily Love
3. Goodbye Girl
4. Kingdome Come
5. Long Time Gone
6. Finding North

green_girl

Better Dan wrote:

green_girl wrote:

They are so magnetic. Saw the live streaming of them at one of the festivals last year, and they had the audience mesmerized.

This cover is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3K7dP7n8s

Thanks! I hadn't heard that one. I just downloaded some mp3s of some of their studio version songs on Amazon compilations that weren't on Barton Hollow and released in the past year made a 2012 - 2013 EP. All solid songs, IMO

1. From this Valley
2. Lily Love
3. Goodbye Girl
4. Kingdome Come
5. Long Time Gone
6. Finding North

Glad you like it. Have you downloaded the free EP "Live from Eddie's Attic" from their website?

Better Dan

green_girl wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

green_girl wrote:

They are so magnetic. Saw the live streaming of them at one of the festivals last year, and they had the audience mesmerized.

This cover is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3K7dP7n8s

Thanks! I hadn't heard that one. I just downloaded some mp3s of some of their studio version songs on Amazon compilations that weren't on Barton Hollow and released in the past year made a 2012 - 2013 EP. All solid songs, IMO

1. From this Valley
2. Lily Love
3. Goodbye Girl
4. Kingdome Come
5. Long Time Gone
6. Finding North

Glad you like it. Have you downloaded the free EP "Live from Eddie's Attic" from their website?

Yes, it's cool..I love the way they sound live. I also have their Live at Amoeba CD. I saw on Amazon that their VH1 Unplugged performance is available on Vinyl. :ugeek: I need to pick that up!

iOnlyownMymind

Excited for this release. I too thought it was a one and done after the announced hiatus. Even if they don't tour it'll be cool to hear some new music.

Better Dan

New interview with Joy

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/07 ... hare&_r=1&

The band's hiatus continues....

Williams says eight months later she and White aren't speaking, but she hopes time will bring them back together to perform the new music live. There are currently no plans for them to tour together, however....."John Paul and I aren't speaking right now but to me that doesn't determine the outcome of the band because if we're not speaking we can't determine the outcome of the band at this moment," she says. "So the other elephant in the room is what's happening with the band? The reality is I'm not even quite sure."

samjam

Better Dan wrote:

New interview with Joy

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/07 ... hare&_r=1&

The band's hiatus continues....

Williams says eight months later she and White aren't speaking, but she hopes time will bring them back together to perform the new music live. There are currently no plans for them to tour together, however....."John Paul and I aren't speaking right now but to me that doesn't determine the outcome of the band because if we're not speaking we can't determine the outcome of the band at this moment," she says. "So the other elephant in the room is what's happening with the band? The reality is I'm not even quite sure."

Oh this was sad to read...I hope they can work out their differences. They are such incredible musicians.

green_girl

samjam wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

New interview with Joy

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/07 ... hare&_r=1&

The band's hiatus continues....

Williams says eight months later she and White aren't speaking, but she hopes time will bring them back together to perform the new music live. There are currently no plans for them to tour together, however....."John Paul and I aren't speaking right now but to me that doesn't determine the outcome of the band because if we're not speaking we can't determine the outcome of the band at this moment," she says. "So the other elephant in the room is what's happening with the band? The reality is I'm not even quite sure."

Oh this was sad to read...I hope they can work out their differences. They are such incredible musicians.

I agree. Listening to their new album will definitely be bittersweet.

boyo79

I just find the whole thing incredible. They need to sort their differences out or just split. I was lucky enough to see them just before the postponed a bunch of dates in November and it was a great gig but I've really got no desire for this new album whilst they continue to do whatever this is. They haven't spoke in 8 months but have a new album out, how does that even work? I can only see the album being a major letdown.

Better Dan

boyo79 wrote:

I just find the whole thing incredible. They need to sort their differences out or just split. I was lucky enough to see them just before the postponed a bunch of dates in November and it was a great gig but I've really got no desire for this new album whilst they continue to do whatever this is. They haven't spoke in 8 months but have a new album out, how does that even work? I can only see the album being a major letdown.

One of the songs on the new album, From this Valley, was on a compilation a few years ago and even performed live as early as 2011. It's possible many of the songs on it were written before their split.

Jnich2424

boyo79 wrote:

I just find the whole thing incredible. They need to sort their differences out or just split. I was lucky enough to see them just before the postponed a bunch of dates in November and it was a great gig but I've really got no desire for this new album whilst they continue to do whatever this is. They haven't spoke in 8 months but have a new album out, how does that even work? I can only see the album being a major letdown.

I feel the opposite. Their music is so dark, that I feel like their emotions about this whole thing will be poured into this album and it will be pretty damn good. I have liked the first single, and the studio version of "From This Valley" is pretty good too, but as with pretty much all their music, it's better live. I feel like they captured that live feel with that song pretty well too.

Better Dan

The version of From this Valley on the new album will be a different recording. I haven't heard it yet but I just read that is is on Spotify.

musicismylife78

im pumped for album 2 out in a few weeks. The One That Got Away is intense.

I still dont understand what the hell happened with and between John Paul and Joy. Like I said, I followed these guys from the start. 2 people not married to each other, but really good friends. Band is managed by Joys husband, and John Paul seems to get along with both of them. John Paul and Joy found stardom later in life, and their "rock star tantrums" seemed behind them. As recently as a few months prior to the album being announced both were on the radio in interview talking about that the path was clear. They would make the follow up an album they wanted. Not what a label wanted.

Then suddenly something happened. Had to have been something pretty epic. Joy in that NPR story seemed to suggest the "one that got away" song is about "someone you wish you had never met". The implications that she was referring to John Paul seemed clear as day.

The NPR article talked about problems between John Paul and Joy, that it had always been there. I would beg to differ. They never seemed anything other than really good friends. I never sensed tension at all.

I really dont get what happened. As far as I was concerned, from the time I became aware of the band, until the rumors of the tension, I hadnt seen them acting in any way rude with one another.

musicismylife78

Im sort of wondering if one of them made a move on the other, even though both are married to other people.

As I said, I dont know how else to explain it. They seemed so on track and in sync in terms of sound, and vision, months prior, then all of a sudden something happened.

John Paul and Joy both made it sound like from day 1, they met in some songwriters camp or retreat, and from day 1, they were completely in sync musicially and vision wise. John Paul has referenced their meeting being destiny or fate.

Would people who feel like that, really just one day differ on musical direction and sound?

I think something else happened.

Better Dan

musicismylife78 wrote:

Im sort of wondering if one of them made a move on the other, even though both are married to other people.

As I said, I dont know how else to explain it. They seemed so on track and in sync in terms of sound, and vision, months prior, then all of a sudden something happened.

John Paul and Joy both made it sound like from day 1, they met in some songwriters camp or retreat, and from day 1, they were completely in sync musicially and vision wise. John Paul has referenced their meeting being destiny or fate.

Would people who feel like that, really just one day differ on musical direction and sound?

I think something else happened.

John Paul has not spoken publicly, or appeared at any event since the split. Joy has. I was reading their facebook page a while back and someone commented about how it seems like John Paul was the one who didn't want anything to do with the civil wars or something to that effect and the civil wars page (run by joy/husband I guess) liked that status. In Joy's recent interview, she said she hadn't spoken to John Paul in 8 months or so, but that she wouldn't know what the future of the band was until she spoke with him.

So something happened to John Paul to make him want to basically disappear from the band. Since the split, I have wondered if one of them made the move on the other or maybe John Paul started having feelings for her and felt uncomfortable?? It's all speculation really. Maybe he felt Joy was getting preferential treatment in musical decisions since her husband is their manager? Really could be any number of things. I'm with you though..I would have never guessed this hiatus was coming.

musicismylife78

thats precisely my point. It seems like both of them are extremely hurt. Joy was crying in that interview. maybe John paul more so is hurt, like you suggest. I am wondering how, if it was a direction of the band issue, why that would be something that would cause such STRONG and INTENSE feelings.

As I said, the NPR promo for the album, and the video for the first single on the new album, its quite clear they have severe problems with one another. Their behavior in the video even though they are singing close to one another, just their body language, its clear this isnt the same Joy and John Paul from 2011 in the Barton Hollow video. The Joy quote in the promo was clearly aimed at John paul. And the lyrics of the new song are clearly about the thing that happened, whatever that is. Joy made it sound like, and she said it verbatim, that she wished she had never met John Paul. Do people really do that if one of them disagrees about the direction or sound of the band?

I did read that interview with Joy, and it made it sound like Joys husband actually offered an idea of what was going on.

He mentioned the fact that he, as manager, his wife Joy, and their new child were all together on the tour traveling and pushing for the band to do more tours, do more press. John paul, has had to leave his wife and kids, they dont or cant come on tour, and I guess thats caused some serious issues. That very well may be the driving issue at work. Joy wanted to get the band going and having ambtiion, and John paul wanting to take it as it comes, and to spend time with his family etc... It seemed inferred that Joy wanted to expand the band's visibility, while John Paul, may have wanted that too, but the long amount of time spent not around his family was something that was causing alot of stress and strife

musicismylife78

and actually that theory does seem to make sense. It would explain why John paul is more pissed off than Joy. And would also explain why John Paul threw that line in during the grammy speech about telling his wife he would "not be around much" if the band hit it big.

I could see John paul saying to Joy, we need to slow down, and I miss my wife and kids. And Joy saying, I want to push this band and get bigger, and her feeling like the arrangement was working out fine. Because it does sound like she had the better end of the deal having her entire family along for the entire tour. It was John paul who was forced to give up something he values.

Digital Twilight

Album stream here:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicb ... bum-stream

Better Dan

Digital Twilight wrote:

Album stream here:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicb ... bum-stream

Thanks! I'm listening now. It's also streaming on iTunes. The Guardian link said it wasn't available in my location.

green_girl

I'm streaming it on iTunes. I'm really enjoying it, although it is much more melancholy than the first album. I mean, it's surpassed Sade levels of melancholy. Nevertheless, their beautiful voices and guitar are still there, so the album is growing on me more and more.