Home› A Moving Train

Ron Paul slams Boston occupation

unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Pretty much


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/r ... 90737.html
Post edited by Unknown User on
«13

Comments

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,605
    I don't get what he thinks they should of done how else do you catch a terrorist on the run , and i would think hi's response would be way different if this kid would of gotten away ....And who cares what this old man has to say he tried for the presidency and failed time to think about your golf game pops ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't get what he thinks they should of done how else do you catch a terrorist on the run , and i would think hi's response would be way different if this kid would of gotten away ....And who cares what this old man has to say he tried for the presidency and failed time to think about your golf game pops ....


    yeah, screw that guy, the gov't always has my best interest at heart, would never abuse any power, and always tells the truth. People who would point out possible overreaches should be silenced.

    what we saw was the capabilities of the gov't on display. I don't necessarily agree with him here, but the speed and ability to lock down an area was both impressive and a bit frightening.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,605
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't get what he thinks they should of done how else do you catch a terrorist on the run , and i would think hi's response would be way different if this kid would of gotten away ....And who cares what this old man has to say he tried for the presidency and failed time to think about your golf game pops ....


    yeah, screw that guy, the gov't always has my best interest at heart, would never abuse any power, and always tells the truth. People who would point out possible overreaches should be silenced.

    what we saw was the capabilities of the gov't on display. I don't necessarily agree with him here, but the speed and ability to lock down an area was both impressive and a bit frightening.

    I have never doubted that the gov can just step in and declare a lockdown this didn't surprize me at all and so tell me how would you go about trying to catch someone on the run it's not like there was only one way in & out of Watertown i ask agin how would you go about catching this guy ...and yeah screw him i bet he would of been the 1st to criticize the authorities if this guy would of gotten away ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    josevolution wrote:

    I have never doubted that the gov can just step in and declare a lockdown this didn't surprize me at all and so tell me how would you go about trying to catch someone on the run it's not like there was only one way in & out of Watertown i ask agin how would you go about catching this guy ...and yeah screw him i bet he would of been the 1st to criticize the authorities if this guy would of gotten away ...


    First, if you read what I wrote I said I don't necessarily agree with him here. I think in much of what happened they acted inside of probable cause boundaries. But it also is a bit terrifying to see the paramilitary style capabilities. That's all.

    If you think he would have come out and criticized the boston police department for not catching the guy you don't know much about him.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    unsung wrote:
    Pretty much


    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/r ... 90737.html


    lol....someone's trying to stay relevant....

    keep f-n that chicken, R.P.
  • Guitar92playerGuitar92player Posts: 664
    They got the guy. What more do you want?
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ron paul monday morning quarterbacking again...

    he didn't speak up as all of this was unfolding...

    :yawn:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Guitar92player wrote:
    They got the guy. What more do you want?

    everything...they want everything!!!!
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fof1SZF5XLg

    Bill Maher on Boston.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ron paul can say these things now, as he is not accountable to the voters anymore....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,691
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ron paul can say these things now, as he is not accountable to the voters anymore....
    Cmon!!!! Hes playing for 2016!!!! I have a feeling I'm going to get sick of hearing about him. In fact I already am.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i tried to bring this up in the original thread ... but i really don't think it's possible to have this discussion ... it's not just about a couple of guys detonating a bomb ... there are so many issues that are tied to this event:

    * civil liberties
    * police/military states
    * us foreign policy

    but i feel like most people just want this to be about 2 radicalized brothers (preferably muslim and tied to al qaeda) and that the police are the heroes ... it's the story people want to sleep with ...

    rule #1: don't piss on cops ... no matter what ...
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    History is written by the winners...period..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    polaris_x wrote:
    i tried to bring this up in the original thread ... but i really don't think it's possible to have this discussion ... it's not just about a couple of guys detonating a bomb ... there are so many issues that are tied to this event:

    * civil liberties
    * police/military states
    * us foreign policy

    but i feel like most people just want this to be about 2 radicalized brothers (preferably muslim and tied to al qaeda) and that the police are the heroes ... it's the story people want to sleep with ...

    rule #1: don't piss on cops ... no matter what ...

    wrong!!! rule #1: second guess everything after it happens and act like you knew then what you know now...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    inmytree wrote:
    wrong!!! rule #1: second guess everything after it happens and act like you knew then what you know now...

    :lol: thanks for proving my point!
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ron paul can say these things now, as he is not accountable to the voters anymore....


    when did that ever stop him before?
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    polaris_x wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    wrong!!! rule #1: second guess everything after it happens and act like you knew then what you know now...

    :lol: thanks for proving my point!

    right back at ya... :lol:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ron paul can say these things now, as he is not accountable to the voters anymore....


    when did that ever stop him before?
    he would have been completely dismissed had he said that you can not do things the way they were done in watertown.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,605
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    josevolution wrote:

    I have never doubted that the gov can just step in and declare a lockdown this didn't surprize me at all and so tell me how would you go about trying to catch someone on the run it's not like there was only one way in & out of Watertown i ask agin how would you go about catching this guy ...and yeah screw him i bet he would of been the 1st to criticize the authorities if this guy would of gotten away ...


    First, if you read what I wrote I said I don't necessarily agree with him here. I think in much of what happened they acted inside of probable cause boundaries. But it also is a bit terrifying to see the paramilitary style capabilities. That's all.

    If you think he would have come out and criticized the boston police department for not catching the guy you don't know much about him.

    Yes i know what you wrotte , i felt good that the military got involved in this ....this kind of crime and suspect warranted the lock down ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I wonder how opinions would vary if Paul had a (D) besides his name?

    :corn:
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    I wonder how opinions would vary if Paul had a (D) besides his name?

    :corn:

    soo true! ... :lol::lol:
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    I wonder how opinions would vary if Paul had a (D) besides his name?

    :corn:

    good question...Methinks the OP would not have created this thread...therefore this discussion would not have happened...

    BOOM....mind blown....
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm still waiting for a democrat, any democrat, to have the guts to speak up.

    I'm confused, wasn't the Democrat Party the strong believers in civil liberty?

    At least the ACLU spoke up about the militarization of the streets.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    This is one of the least surprising articles I have read, headlines I have seen, and threads that have been started on this board.

    There will always be attention to grab, headlines to seek, and followers to appease.

    And if one Paul would blow up a suspect for stealing $50 from a liquor store...what would they have done in Watertown?
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    josevolution wrote:

    I have never doubted that the gov can just step in and declare a lockdown this didn't surprize me at all and so tell me how would you go about trying to catch someone on the run it's not like there was only one way in & out of Watertown i ask agin how would you go about catching this guy ...and yeah screw him i bet he would of been the 1st to criticize the authorities if this guy would of gotten away ...


    First, if you read what I wrote I said I don't necessarily agree with him here. I think in much of what happened they acted inside of probable cause boundaries. But it also is a bit terrifying to see the paramilitary style capabilities. That's all.

    If you think he would have come out and criticized the boston police department for not catching the guy you don't know much about him.

    The son would have handled those duties. Cheap political points to score and all.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    unsung wrote:
    I'm still waiting for a democrat, any democrat, to have the guts to speak up.

    I'm confused, wasn't the Democrat Party the strong believers in civil liberty?

    At least the ACLU spoke up about the militarization of the streets.

    I have friends and family who are all liberal democrats who live in and around Boston and every single one of them along with their neighbors was all for what the various law enforcement agencies did and were glad it ended so quickly because of the way the law enforcement handled things.

    I also have friends and family who are republicans who live in and around Boston and they were happy with the way things were handled and with the eventual capture of the second suspect.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    polaris_x wrote:
    i tried to bring this up in the original thread ... but i really don't think it's possible to have this discussion ... it's not just about a couple of guys detonating a bomb ... there are so many issues that are tied to this event:

    * civil liberties
    * police/military states
    * us foreign policy

    but i feel like most people just want this to be about 2 radicalized brothers (preferably muslim and tied to al qaeda) and that the police are the heroes ... it's the story people want to sleep with ...

    rule #1: don't piss on cops ... no matter what ...

    And I feel some people are desperate for it to be about anything other than these two murderers.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,182
    unsung wrote:
    I'm still waiting for a democrat, any democrat, to have the guts to speak up.

    I'm confused, wasn't the Democrat Party the strong believers in civil liberty?

    At least the ACLU spoke up about the militarization of the streets.

    Not sure what Bill Maher clip was linked to earlier in the thread but as of his most recent broadcast he was unhappy with what happened in Watertown.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    he would have been completely dismissed had he said that you can not do things the way they were done in watertown.

    you are talking about a guy who tried to explain to neo-cons at the primary debate that 9/11 didn't happen because terrorists hate freedom.

    Also, at what point does Ron Paul not get completely dismissed by most D's and R's?
    Jason P wrote:
    I wonder how opinions would vary if Paul had a (D) besides his name?

    :corn:

    He did have a D by his name...he went by Paul Wellstone and he had a "plane crash" :think: ...and I respected him then too.
    josevolution wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    josevolution wrote:

    Yes i know what you wrotte , i felt good that the military got involved in this ....this kind of crime and suspect warranted the lock down ...

    Ok, but some don't think so, guess that is why there is a discussion about it. So the next time it happens and the response might differ and best practices might be put into place to do our very best to ensure that the rights of all citizens are respected. there is no way to figure out what is reasonable without a discussion.

    Are you honestly telling me that it is not ok in the least to question the tactics used because the guy got caught? If the ends justify the means in this case to the point where the response cannot even be questioned less you are called crazy etc.

    Let's take this as an example of ends justifying the means. Why don't we require all people to be naked in public with no bags. Guarantee you that there will be no unnoticed firearms used to kill, there will be no way for someone to drop a bomb at the marathon...would those ends justify the means? or do you think we should have a conversation about what is reasonable?

    It is the same thing...a discussion about how far we go is should always be viewed as constructive. Sorry if that comes of as condescending it wasn't meant to be.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    JimmyV wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    If you think he would have come out and criticized the boston police department for not catching the guy you don't know much about him.

    The son would have handled those duties. Cheap political points to score and all.

    Probably right
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
Sign In or Register to comment.