Best version of black??? (QUICK)

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  • gohike wrote:
    San Jose, Ca. I dare anyone to find a better Black guitar solo than what mcready pulled off that day...

    This cat is dead on. There are plenty of great versions, but this one is THE one.
    If you had to apply to be a guitar god, this Black would be his submission for consideration. And, of course, his ticket in.

    PJ Sparks
    "You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it to peace".
  • MineAmIMineAmI Posts: 114
    OTTAWA 2005!

    maybe not the best version for diehards, but that one will definitely make him a fan for life.

    one of the most beautiful things i've ever heard.
    we were but stones....your light made us stars
  • the version in Buenos Aires, November 25 is amazing!
  • PJ Sparks wrote:
    This cat is dead on. There are plenty of great versions, but this one is THE one.
    If you had to apply to be a guitar god, this Black would be his submission for consideration. And, of course, his ticket in.

    PJ Sparks

    Ive not come across this version so cheers guys - was at the two BA shows so they'd have to get my nod.
    But vocally the one on the Dissident single from Atlanta in 94 beats them all - shits on the MTV Unplugged version Id say.

    As for the worst version - that'd be the one I sing round my mate's house at 4 in the morning after about 10 pints.
  • Quick......i need help......im converting a person to PJ, but i need the best version of black..........please help....pinkpop i was thinkin..........

    Away............ BLACK on Buenos Aires Argentina, November 25.......... incredible!!!! with the "tururu tururu" and "oooo ooooo" more large in the life of PJ singed for the crowd, too emotional!!!!!! 10 minutes is the song time in this concert.
    And 26 November too is soo fu** good!!!!
    REcomended!!!! you´ll love it!!! to me, the best version of BLACK on my life and the PJ too!!!
    Don´t miss it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    " ... The waiting drove me mad, you were finally in Argentina and I was a mess ... "
    25/11 - 26/11 - Buenos Aires
    The best and long Black versions never before listening......
  • Another version that i love.........
    Black on Milano 92........ great!!! too much power!!!!!!
    from the CD "We´re Jamming"
    " ... The waiting drove me mad, you were finally in Argentina and I was a mess ... "
    25/11 - 26/11 - Buenos Aires
    The best and long Black versions never before listening......
  • The favorite in my collection is Indianapolis, 2000. Mike is just.....well, it's Mike. I FEEL that one the most.....
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  • Anyone who thinks San Jose 95 is better than Melbourne 95 is kidding themselves. They're both at pearljamlive.com...go listen!
    Since you are from Australia, I would assume you were at this show so maybe you feel this is a better version. I was at the San Jose show (but I have seen Black performed live many times before & after) & in my opinion, this is the best version I have heard either live or from bootlegs.

    There are many great versions of this song and people have posted many from those shows, so it boils down to a matter of personal preferance.

    I have stated why I think the San Jose 95' version is the best & until I hear Mike play the solo this way again, I will stick with this as my favorite version.

  • MTV UNPLUGGED IN 1992

    it was mind blowing.
    we....we.....we belong......we belong TOGETHER!!! ...TOGETHER!!!!!

    so fucking emotional.



    ABSOLUTELY!! Like someone said earlier, he's singing this with his heart in his hand.
    "every show is a great show. bitches...." --twolegsyield
  • All of the ones listed are excellent, but as far as converting goes... you really can't go wrong with Benaroya. Hearing the crownd singing along with Eddie, then Mike busting out into the solo, it's some powerful stuff. It just slowly builds and builds from when Eddie lets the crowd sing. Eddie fading back in, awesome! Might not be the most complex or technical guitar solo, but damn you feel it.

    Good thing with Benaroya is that sound quality isn't going to be an issue, where older bootlegs might be.

    MTV Unplugged, Ottawa, San Hose, all excellent.
  • I can't believe that nobody's mentioned the version of Black on Rearviewmirror! That has to be the absolute best, especially considering that ur talking abt trying to convert someone to PJ. They have to hear the studio version first to really get a feel of the actual song before they sink their teeth into all the great live versions out there. Mike's solo on the live versions is always great but this particular studio version of the song is just outstanding coz of the almost inhuman growls by eddie at the end, which aren't as prominent on the Ten version. The guitar is also a little louder on the RVM version and eddie's voice is the best I've ever heard it. Nowhere else does he bring this level of emotion to the fore, it's almost as if he's crying at the end. It's the fadeout ending with the growls and guitar with piano in the background and the soulful "doo doo doo doo doo doo doo's" that combine to make this version Pearl Jam's finest musical moment IMO.
  • Release_Me wrote:
    I can't believe that nobody's mentioned the version of Black on Rearviewmirror! That has to be the absolute best, especially considering that ur talking abt trying to convert someone to PJ. They have to hear the studio version first to really get a feel of the actual song before they sink their teeth into all the great live versions out there. Mike's solo on the live versions is always great but this particular studio version of the song is just outstanding coz of the almost inhuman growls by eddie at the end, which aren't as prominent on the Ten version. The guitar is also a little louder on the RVM version and eddie's voice is the best I've ever heard it. Nowhere else does he bring this level of emotion to the fore, it's almost as if he's crying at the end. It's the fadeout ending with the growls and guitar with piano in the background and the soulful "doo doo doo doo doo doo doo's" that combine to make this version Pearl Jam's finest musical moment IMO.

    Hello to my namesake! And i completely agree, the RVM version of Black can't be beaten. The piano is also clearer in this version and it takes the song to new emotional heights. It's just perfect.

    But, i'm off to listen to San Hose '95 because everyone keeps talking about it!
    "This town deserves a better class of criminal... and I'm gonna give it to them."

  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    i agreee


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • mumimumi Posts: 662
    I don't really know if it's the best, but the one at Bs As 1 was great! And the energy coming from the crowd makes it more intense...You should hear it at least!!
    Uno es dueño de lo que calla
    y esclavo de lo que habla.
  • Vancouver 05 -- where we all had to whistle...that wasn't difficult at all, no way...Sounded really spectacular...NOT!
    be philanthropic
  • the live at Benaroya. It's unbelievable and it's acoustic. Sends shivers down my spine everytime!!
    If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
  • Boston 03 is my number 1. Mike's solo at the end gives me shivers every time I listen to it.

    Buffalo 03 is my second favorite.

    I wish they'd bring back Mike's extended and higher-volume solos like the 03 shows.
  • Ignacio76 wrote:
    Although Eddie mess up the lyrics a little bit, the unplugged version is really cool,
    I mean the "We belong toghether" part,... well it seems like he is singing with his heart in his hand

    I second this. And if your friend can get to WATCH the version its even better!

    The benaroya one is gorgeous too.
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    London, O2, 18 June 2018
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    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • LauraPJLauraPJ Posts: 1,777
    I don't remember if I've already post this... but: Ottawa '05, the ending was just so amazing
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me
    Buenos Aires, 11/25/2005
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/13/2011
    Buenos Aires, 04/03/2013
    Santiago, 04/06/2013
    Santiago, 11/04/2015
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/07/2015
  • LauraPJ wrote:
    I don't remember if I've already post this... but: Ottawa '05, the ending was just so amazing

    What does the harvest moon sound like on that show? I was looking at the setlist and I never knew they covered that song. Its one of my favourite neil young songs.
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • LauraPJLauraPJ Posts: 1,777
    What does the harvest moon sound like on that show? I was looking at the setlist and I never knew they covered that song. Its one of my favourite neil young songs.
    It was good... not THE best version, but it was pretty fine.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me
    Buenos Aires, 11/25/2005
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/13/2011
    Buenos Aires, 04/03/2013
    Santiago, 04/06/2013
    Santiago, 11/04/2015
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/07/2015
  • LauraPJ wrote:
    It was good... not THE best version, but it was pretty fine.

    Cool thanks, I'm ordering it, lol

    (sorry to go off-topic!)
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • CageyCagey Posts: 220
    Unplugged is cool, if you don't care that the lyrics are all over the place :p

    Nothing beats the studio version for me though, some songs just seem better that way.
    All my favourite singers have stolen all of my best lines.
  • LauraPJLauraPJ Posts: 1,777
    Cool thanks, I'm ordering it, lol

    (sorry to go off-topic!)
    You're welcome! Good choice, can't go wrong with that boot. Enjoy it :)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me
    Buenos Aires, 11/25/2005
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/13/2011
    Buenos Aires, 04/03/2013
    Santiago, 04/06/2013
    Santiago, 11/04/2015
    Buenos Aires, La Plata, 11/07/2015
  • I'll beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    AMAZING!

    In the encore break Ed said
    " I tell you there was a moment I don't know how many times we've played that song called Black but I had my eyes closed and when I opened them up and saw you all it just was beautiful, I was moved"
  • MikeoMikeo Posts: 199
    Black from 6-18-92 is one of my favorites. i bout that boot for 50 bucks back in 97. it was the one that changed it all for me. the whole concert is amazing. thats just my opinion.
  • ok just listened to San Jose - yeah the solo is amazing, but the song isnt long enough, no crowd extension with do do doo's, and eddie's vocals arent up to scratch, not as intense as the 'top' versions of black, and he misses lyrics a couple of times. great version, but we're talking about the very best here.
    that top ten list someone put up looked fine. if u wanted some from the binaural/riot act tours id listen to Dublin 00, Katowice II 00, Las Vegas 00, Philly 03 - solo to rival San Jose 95?, St.Paul 03,

    but for top versions -

    Unplugged
    pretty much any version from late 93/early 94
    Benaroya
    LOTL
    Melbourne 95 - one of a few versions with the 'hey oh's' at the end after the 'we belong together' tag
  • hartford '06.. that version renewed my love of that song..
    boston: 7/91, 8/92, 4/94, 9/98(x2), 8/00(x2), 7/03(x3), 9/04(x2), 5/06(x2).
    augusta: 9/96
    montreal: 9/05
    hartford: 5/06
    St. Paul: 6/06
    las vegas: 7/06
  • Bs As Argentina 25th.
  • finsbury 92 has to be the most intense, closely followed by atlanta 94. and lo2l solo is incredible. but my two favourites are - and i swear this is not bias talking - are dublin 2000 and 2006. 2000 is incredible slows down and spaces out like lo2l - until ed dives into the crowd and the band erupts into a fantastic climax. i was almost hoping they wouldn't play it this time around because I knew they couldn't top that... but they did. hugely extended solo because of the crowd singing the doo-doo-doo-doos, that the band just went with forever, and ed's "we belong together" has rarely been more moving and heartbreaking.
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
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