FDA considering allowing Aspartame in milk

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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I drink almond milk only for the extra calcium, I don't care much for milk at all really. (I need the extra calcium for bone health). It's something to get used to, it's a bit sweeter, even the original formula (several flavors out there, just like soy). The thing is, my daughter won't touch the stuff! She needs her regular milk. Sigh.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I do think so many of you are fear mongers ... humans are living longer than ever ... average life expectancy is like what 80 or so ... do some of you think you'll live forever?

    who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...

    at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...

    would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...

    or maybe its sedentary lifestyle people are leading, or the increase in illness and serious disease is because we are aging population and our bodies are just naturally breaking down as we get older, maybe it's genetics...who really knows...I do know this if people are waiting for the government to help you good luck with that :lol::lol::lol:.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:

    who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...

    at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...

    would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...

    I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Jeanwah wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:

    who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...

    at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...

    would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...

    I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.

    probably not as bad ... but I have seen news reports where it's starting to be concern ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_o ... th-obesity
    http://www.hivehealthmedia.com/world-ob ... tats-2010/

    not sure how accurate it is but i would say that it doesn't shock me if it is as I spend a lot of time in the states ... the problem is like with everything else ... you've got a corporatized gov't that's sole function seems to be to help profiteering by big business ...

    the shit that gets approved in the states is mind boggling ... but hey - i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ... :lol::lol:
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    polaris_x wrote:
    i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ... :lol::lol:

    Get outta my cuntry...

    :lol::lol::lol:;)
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_o ... th-obesity
    http://www.hivehealthmedia.com/world-ob ... tats-2010/

    not sure how accurate it is but i would say that it doesn't shock me if it is as I spend a lot of time in the states ... the problem is like with everything else ... you've got a corporatized gov't that's sole function seems to be to help profiteering by big business ...

    the shit that gets approved in the states is mind boggling ... but hey - i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ... :lol::lol:

    Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    I agree, Hedonist, say milk- yuk! Have you tried vanilla flavored rice milk? It's great on cereal, with cookies, etc. and works as a wonderful substitute in pancakes and waffles and such. Also, I recently tried flax milk with vanilla and found it to be very tasty plus flax is rich in omega 3's.

    And kudos, riotgrl, for making your own. Home made is always the best choice because you know what goes into your food and less packaging is used.
    Never tried rice milk, period...may give it a go though, as I've seen it at just about every local market. Couldn't hurt to try a pint here or there!
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!

    i honestly believe that it is tied to the additives and processed nature of much of america's food system ... the obesity rates aren't by chance ... they are in essence manufactured and intentional ...

    having said that ... we only look good compared to the US ... still not great ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ... :lol::lol:

    Get outta my cuntry...

    :lol::lol::lol:;)

    i'm out! ...


    but back wednesday ... :lol:
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!

    i honestly believe that it is tied to the additives and processed nature of much of america's food system ... the obesity rates aren't by chance ... they are in essence manufactured and intentional ...

    having said that ... we only look good compared to the US ... still not great ...

    I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?

    it's little things ... like high fructose corn syrup which is referred to as glucose/fructose here ... there are many products that in the states uses it but in the canadian version it doesn't ...

    the fast food is definitely similar however the portion sizes are definitely not ...
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?

    it's little things ... like high fructose corn syrup which is referred to as glucose/fructose here ... there are many products that in the states uses it but in the canadian version it doesn't ...

    the fast food is definitely similar however the portion sizes are definitely not ...

    It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/

    Scary stuff if you ask me. We assume even our healthy food is ok but it contains all kind of "ingredients" that don't even remotely resemble food.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    riotgrl wrote:
    It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/

    Scary stuff if you ask me. We assume even our healthy food is ok but it contains all kind of "ingredients" that don't even remotely resemble food.

    thanks for that! ...
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    riotgrl wrote:

    It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/

    Good info, thanks for that link! There's something seriously wrong with our government...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,058
    I usually drink a glass of milk with some cookies that's about it ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,379
    josevolution wrote:
    I usually drink a glass of milk with some cookies that's about it ....
    Cereal mainly for me.

    Once I found out milk had as much or more calories as beer ... well, you do the math. If I'm taking on that many calories, I'd better be catching a buzz. :P
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