FDA considering allowing Aspartame in milk

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http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhe ... eners-milk



Two things I will not drink and haven't for years, diet sodas and milk.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    unsung wrote:
    http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/artificial-sweeteners-milk



    Two things I will not drink and haven't for years, diet sodas and milk.

    I'm with you there, unsung. Cows milk especially. Even cow cheese. I find goat cheese much more digestible.

    The thing is, a lot of kids will still be drinking milk and the idea of having Aspartame in their milk ass-insane.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    So wrong in many aspects.

    First - adding an ingredient to a natural product without having to put in on the label.... wrong. We, as consumers have the right to know what goes in our foods to enable us to make informed decisions.

    Second - why in the hell do we need to 'train' our kids to like sweet stuff? What's wrong with the taste of mild with no flavouring? Do we need to put sugar on everything so our kids will eat? That does not abode well for the future of these kids choices when it comes to nutrition.

    Third - consumption of milk is in decline? There are reasons for that - and rightly so.
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Might not help but there is a way to let the FDA know that you are opposed to this measure and you can leave a comment about what you think about it. I blasted them for this when I commented. Here is the link if you're interested.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/02/20/2013-03835/flavored-milk-petition-to-amend-the-standard-of-identity-for-milk-and-17-additional-dairy-products

    It's time for us to quit allowing the FDA and businesses control our food choices and take control of our own supply.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,369
    I don't drink milk or diet soda either. Without proper labeling, how are people with food allergies supposed to know what is in a product?

    This is wrong on so many levels.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    the most evil corporation in the US = the gov't ... :|
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    I only drink Organic Milk, but it's still over pasteurized and loses many/most of it's nutrients (which of course they try to put back in)

    Raw Milk is best, as long as certain precautions are taken.

    It's illegal to sell Raw Milk for human consumption but legal to sell for 'pet' or 'animal' consumption, Which is the 'loophole' many people use to obtain and drink Raw/Real Milk themselves.

    http://www.realmilk.com/

    http://www.floridarawmilk.com/raw-milk/florida-raw-milk-laws
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Idris wrote:
    I only drink Organic Milk, but it's still over pasteurized and loses many/most of it's nutrients (which of course they try to put back in)

    Raw Milk is best, as long as certain precautions are taken.

    It's illegal to sell Raw Milk for human consumption but legal to sell for 'pet' or 'animal' consumption, Which is the 'loophole' many people use to obtain and drink Raw/Real Milk themselves.

    http://www.realmilk.com/

    http://www.floridarawmilk.com/raw-milk/florida-raw-milk-laws


    It is illegal in KY as well which is crazy to me but you can buy a "share" of a cow to be able to drink it. If there was a farm close enough that is what I would do! Crazy what the FDA does to "protect" us!
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    riotgrl wrote:
    It is illegal in KY as well which is crazy to me but you can buy a "share" of a cow to be able to drink it. If there was a farm close enough that is what I would do! Crazy what the FDA does to "protect" us!

    I just called my Local 'Whole foods' store, they don't carry 'raw milk' anymore, sadly!

    I'm not sure if all the locations have stopped carrying it, but I know some did at one point.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't be drinking milk period ... most people are lactose intolerant to some degree ... it is difficult to digest and it's one of the first things they cut in your diet when you get sick ...
  • Why are humans the only mammals to continue to drink milk after being an infant????????

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    polaris_x wrote:
    i'm of the opinion that we shouldn't be drinking milk period ... most people are lactose intolerant to some degree ... it is difficult to digest and it's one of the first things they cut in your diet when you get sick ...

    It's up to the individual, person by person. If someone is unable to tolerate the lactose, then don't drink it.

    Having said that, I have read reports on many people who were said to be lactose intolerant but when they switched to raw milk, they were able to handle it with little or no issues. Of course how true are those reports? I have no idea Cause it seems to go against reason, I mean if ones body is lacking the enzyme Lactase (which breaks down the lactose) then what difference would raw mill make? Probably none,

    Which means a few things, one thing may be that some/many people who switched to raw milk never had a 'real' lactose intolerance, rather something else in pasteurized milk that was causing their issues.

    But if someones curious they should try it out and see how their body responds.
    -

    For me, personally, I know when I don't drink milk for long periods of time then start drinking it again I seem to have issues. But after drinking it again for a while my body adjusts to it.

    I also loooove Chocolate Milk...( :D )
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    riotgrl wrote:
    Might not help but there is a way to let the FDA know that you are opposed to this measure and you can leave a comment about what you think about it. I blasted them for this when I commented. Here is the link if you're interested.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/02/20/2013-03835/flavored-milk-petition-to-amend-the-standard-of-identity-for-milk-and-17-additional-dairy-products

    It's time for us to quit allowing the FDA and businesses control our food choices and take control of our own supply.



    Filed. Thank you.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Anyone know why we are the only species to consume milk into adulthood?
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    This isn’t only for milk, either: It’s also for yogurt, cream, sour cream, eggnog, whipping cream and a total of 17 products, all of which are listed in the petition at FDA.gov.

    As the petition states:
    IDFA and NMPF request their proposed amendments to the milk standard of identity to allow optional characterizing flavoring ingredients used in milk (e.g., chocolate flavoring added to milk) to be sweetened with any safe and suitable sweetener — including non-nutritive sweeteners such as aspartame.
    This is all being done to “save the children,” we’re told, because the use of aspartame in milk products would reduce calories.

    http://theintelhub.com/2013/02/26/u-s-d ... -additive/

    :shock:
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    riotgrl wrote:
    Idris wrote:
    I only drink Organic Milk, but it's still over pasteurized and loses many/most of it's nutrients (which of course they try to put back in)

    Raw Milk is best, as long as certain precautions are taken.

    It's illegal to sell Raw Milk for human consumption but legal to sell for 'pet' or 'animal' consumption, Which is the 'loophole' many people use to obtain and drink Raw/Real Milk themselves.

    http://www.realmilk.com/

    http://www.floridarawmilk.com/raw-milk/florida-raw-milk-laws


    It is illegal in KY as well which is crazy to me but you can buy a "share" of a cow to be able to drink it. If there was a farm close enough that is what I would do! Crazy what the FDA does to "protect" us!

    It's funny, you'd think the FDA looks out to protect us, but in reality, there're just another corrupt gov't agency doing what special interests pay them to do. The FDA also endorses whatever Monsanto wants them to.

    The bigger question is this: If an industry is pushing to hide aspartame in its products, what else is it already hiding? How about the pus content of its dairy products? How about its inhumane treatment of animals who are subjected to torture conditions and pumped full of genetically engineered hormones?

    At the same time, how do I tell my 9 year old that she has to stop drinking milk (she drinks it every day)? There's already a huge demand for organic milk, I've seen some local stores run out often. This will only increase the demand for organic even more, and these farms are already feeling the pressure.
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Why are humans the only mammals to continue to drink milk after being an infant????????

    My ex-husband said that his family doctor when he was growing up always said "milk is for baby cows."

    There is no reason to drink cow's milk or any other milk for that matter unless it is your momma's milk and you are an infant. The dairy industry destroys the environment, is cruel, and takes lots and lots of tax money (in the form of farm subsidies).
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Why are humans the only mammals to continue to drink milk after being an infant????????


    I asked the same question and I totally missed seeing this post.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    riotgrl wrote:

    It's time for us to quit allowing the FDA and businesses control our food choices and take control of our own supply.

    I like this thought
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Why are humans the only mammals to continue to drink milk after being an infant????????
    Because of cereal and Oreo cookies. :geek:

    Real answer: We are the only species with enough advanced intelligence to know how to extract it from other animals for consumption.
  • I gave up drinking milk long before I became vegan.

    Drink almond milk. Better for you in pretty much every way.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Why are humans the only mammals to continue to drink milk after being an infant????????

    My ex-husband said that his family doctor when he was growing up always said "milk is for baby cows."

    There is no reason to drink cow's milk or any other milk for that matter unless it is your momma's milk and you are an infant. The dairy industry destroys the environment, is cruel, and takes lots and lots of tax money (in the form of farm subsidies).

    exactly ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    so what should we drink ... sounds like people here have the general consensus no milk, soda (diet or otherwise), so should we just drink water? I like water but can only drink so much ... so my question is serious, what should one drink?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I gave up drinking milk long before I became vegan.

    Drink almond milk. Better for you in pretty much every way.

    I wouldn't have a clue where to get almond milk. And it sounds expensive.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I gave up drinking milk long before I became vegan.

    Drink almond milk. Better for you in pretty much every way.

    I wouldn't have a clue where to get almond milk. And it sounds expensive.

    it's called the grocery store ... :lol::lol::lol: ... everyone sells it now!
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I gave up drinking milk long before I became vegan.

    Drink almond milk. Better for you in pretty much every way.

    I wouldn't have a clue where to get almond milk. And it sounds expensive.

    it's called the grocery store ... :lol::lol::lol: ... everyone sells it now!

    Even our small town locally owned grocery store (in the Midwest) sells it. And Wal-Mart too. And Kroger. And the health food stores.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    And almond milk is a little more expensive. There are no tax payer dollars going to the almond milk makers.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    lukin2006 wrote:
    so what should we drink ... sounds like people here have the general consensus no milk, soda (diet or otherwise), so should we just drink water? I like water but can only drink so much ... so my question is serious, what should one drink?

    Water is all you really need if that's the route you want to go
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I gave up drinking milk long before I became vegan.

    Drink almond milk. Better for you in pretty much every way.

    I wouldn't have a clue where to get almond milk. And it sounds expensive.

    it's called the grocery store ... :lol::lol::lol: ... everyone sells it now!

    :lol::lol::lol: ... never seen it in a grocery store ... of course never looked for it either.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    lukin2006 wrote:
    so what should we drink ... sounds like people here have the general consensus no milk, soda (diet or otherwise), so should we just drink water? I like water but can only drink so much ... so my question is serious, what should one drink?

    Water is all you really need if that's the route you want to go

    I think your probably right ... but I don't think I'd cut beer and wine out :D.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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