so what should we drink ... sounds like people here have the general consensus no milk, soda (diet or otherwise), so should we just drink water? I like water but can only drink so much ... so my question is serious, what should one drink?
Water is all you really need if that's the route you want to go
I think your probably right ... but I don't think I'd cut beer and wine out .
I do think so many of you are fear mongers ... humans are living longer than ever ... average life expectancy is like what 80 or so ... do some of you think you'll live forever?
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
the most evil corporation in the US = the gov't ...
thank you.
also... don't buy milk for awhile, put em out of business if they wanna add crap to our food-stuffs. i use milk in my cereals, hot & cold cereals. wtf? now im pissy.
I do think so many of you are fear mongers ... humans are living longer than ever ... average life expectancy is like what 80 or so ... do some of you think you'll live forever?
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
And THAT is the reason for my milk consumption! A once in awhile thing, but still.
Does almond milk taste almond-y? I'd be willing to try it but don't want it messing with the beauty that is Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter.
Tried pure soy milk once and maybe it's that it was warm but NEVER AGAIN. It was nasty as hell.
Doesn't aspartame have that same weird aftertaste like saccharin? I don't touch that shit (not counting libations, I basically drink only water, tea and OJ).
And THAT is the reason for my milk consumption! A once in awhile thing, but still.
Does almond milk taste almond-y? I'd be willing to try it but don't want it messing with the beauty that is Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter.
Tried pure soy milk once and maybe it's that it was warm but NEVER AGAIN. It was nasty as hell.
Doesn't aspartame have that same weird aftertaste like saccharin? I don't touch that shit (not counting libations, I basically drink only water, tea and OJ).
don't forget ice cream!!
almond milk does have almond taste and i suspect it isn't always a great supplement ...
ya ... aspartame is what is in all the fucking diet sodas that they now are saying is bad for you! ... like d'uh ... of course it is ...
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I do think so many of you are fear mongers ... humans are living longer than ever ... average life expectancy is like what 80 or so ... do some of you think you'll live forever?
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
I have to agree with polaris here, lukin. The life expectancy in the US is beginning to drop and will continue to do so if we don't clean up our act.
Also, please consider that those of us who try to be educated and aware of unhealthy environmental and social conditions and work to make changes for the good that way are not trying to spread fear. Fear stifles creative life giving energy. Most people I know who work to make life better at least try to have courage. You say some are "fear mongers", I say most are concerned people with a compassion for life.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I understand having an aversion to drinking milk but I'd make my own almond milk (or coconut milk or whatever you drink to avoid cows milk) because it has numerous additives that have been linked (not causation mind you but correlation) between serious illnesses (including cancer!) and these ingredients. Carragenean is in most commercial brands of these type of milks and this ingredient is extremely problematic for its links to cancer, just saying. Stick with water (and wine - hey it's been fermented!)
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
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And THAT is the reason for my milk consumption! A once in awhile thing, but still.
Does almond milk taste almond-y? I'd be willing to try it but don't want it messing with the beauty that is Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter.
Tried pure soy milk once and maybe it's that it was warm but NEVER AGAIN. It was nasty as hell.
Doesn't aspartame have that same weird aftertaste like saccharin? I don't touch that shit (not counting libations, I basically drink only water, tea and OJ).
I agree, Hedonist, say milk- yuk! Have you tried vanilla flavored rice milk? It's great on cereal, with cookies, etc. and works as a wonderful substitute in pancakes and waffles and such. Also, I recently tried flax milk with vanilla and found it to be very tasty plus flax is rich in omega 3's.
And kudos, riotgrl, for making your own. Home made is always the best choice because you know what goes into your food and less packaging is used.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
And THAT is the reason for my milk consumption! A once in awhile thing, but still.
Does almond milk taste almond-y? I'd be willing to try it but don't want it messing with the beauty that is Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter.
Tried pure soy milk once and maybe it's that it was warm but NEVER AGAIN. It was nasty as hell.
Doesn't aspartame have that same weird aftertaste like saccharin? I don't touch that shit (not counting libations, I basically drink only water, tea and OJ).
I agree, Hedonist, say milk- yuk! Have you tried vanilla flavored rice milk? It's great on cereal, with cookies, etc. and works as a wonderful substitute in pancakes and waffles and such. Also, I recently tried flax milk with vanilla and found it to be very tasty plus flax is rich in omega 3's.
And kudos, riotgrl, for making your own. Home made is always the best choice because you know what goes into your food and less packaging is used.
I also use a similar recipe to make wrinkle cream - I'll let you know if that works
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I drink almond milk only for the extra calcium, I don't care much for milk at all really. (I need the extra calcium for bone health). It's something to get used to, it's a bit sweeter, even the original formula (several flavors out there, just like soy). The thing is, my daughter won't touch the stuff! She needs her regular milk. Sigh.
I do think so many of you are fear mongers ... humans are living longer than ever ... average life expectancy is like what 80 or so ... do some of you think you'll live forever?
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
or maybe its sedentary lifestyle people are leading, or the increase in illness and serious disease is because we are aging population and our bodies are just naturally breaking down as we get older, maybe it's genetics...who really knows...I do know this if people are waiting for the government to help you good luck with that .
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
probably not as bad ... but I have seen news reports where it's starting to be concern ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
not sure how accurate it is but i would say that it doesn't shock me if it is as I spend a lot of time in the states ... the problem is like with everything else ... you've got a corporatized gov't that's sole function seems to be to help profiteering by big business ...
the shit that gets approved in the states is mind boggling ... but hey - i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ...
I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
not sure how accurate it is but i would say that it doesn't shock me if it is as I spend a lot of time in the states ... the problem is like with everything else ... you've got a corporatized gov't that's sole function seems to be to help profiteering by big business ...
the shit that gets approved in the states is mind boggling ... but hey - i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ...
Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!
I agree, Hedonist, say milk- yuk! Have you tried vanilla flavored rice milk? It's great on cereal, with cookies, etc. and works as a wonderful substitute in pancakes and waffles and such. Also, I recently tried flax milk with vanilla and found it to be very tasty plus flax is rich in omega 3's.
And kudos, riotgrl, for making your own. Home made is always the best choice because you know what goes into your food and less packaging is used.
Never tried rice milk, period...may give it a go though, as I've seen it at just about every local market. Couldn't hurt to try a pint here or there!
Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!
i honestly believe that it is tied to the additives and processed nature of much of america's food system ... the obesity rates aren't by chance ... they are in essence manufactured and intentional ...
having said that ... we only look good compared to the US ... still not great ...
Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!
i honestly believe that it is tied to the additives and processed nature of much of america's food system ... the obesity rates aren't by chance ... they are in essence manufactured and intentional ...
having said that ... we only look good compared to the US ... still not great ...
I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?
I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?
it's little things ... like high fructose corn syrup which is referred to as glucose/fructose here ... there are many products that in the states uses it but in the canadian version it doesn't ...
the fast food is definitely similar however the portion sizes are definitely not ...
I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?
it's little things ... like high fructose corn syrup which is referred to as glucose/fructose here ... there are many products that in the states uses it but in the canadian version it doesn't ...
the fast food is definitely similar however the portion sizes are definitely not ...
It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/
Scary stuff if you ask me. We assume even our healthy food is ok but it contains all kind of "ingredients" that don't even remotely resemble food.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/
Scary stuff if you ask me. We assume even our healthy food is ok but it contains all kind of "ingredients" that don't even remotely resemble food.
It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/
Good info, thanks for that link! There's something seriously wrong with our government...
I usually drink a glass of milk with some cookies that's about it ....
Cereal mainly for me.
Once I found out milk had as much or more calories as beer ... well, you do the math. If I'm taking on that many calories, I'd better be catching a buzz. :P
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
also... don't buy milk for awhile, put em out of business if they wanna add crap to our food-stuffs. i use milk in my cereals, hot & cold cereals. wtf? now im pissy.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
who are you referring to? ... life expectancy is an interesting figure as it's hard to compare apples to apples here ... the most privileged royal a 100 years ago lived in a standard of living well below someone who is in poverty in north america ... we have less wars and we've also have advancements in medicine ... plus combine that with big pharma and some of the artificial life support systems ... it's no wonder we are living longer ...
at the same time incidents of pretty much every illness and disease is on its way up ...
would it shock you to know that life expectancy figures differ from canada to the US? ... why is it that canadians live on average 3 years longer? ... is it because, the FDA approves all kinds of shit down there? ... remember that the US allows for rgbst in their milk while in canada we do not ...
Does almond milk taste almond-y? I'd be willing to try it but don't want it messing with the beauty that is Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter.
Tried pure soy milk once and maybe it's that it was warm but NEVER AGAIN. It was nasty as hell.
Doesn't aspartame have that same weird aftertaste like saccharin? I don't touch that shit (not counting libations, I basically drink only water, tea and OJ).
don't forget ice cream!!
almond milk does have almond taste and i suspect it isn't always a great supplement ...
ya ... aspartame is what is in all the fucking diet sodas that they now are saying is bad for you! ... like d'uh ... of course it is ...
I have to agree with polaris here, lukin. The life expectancy in the US is beginning to drop and will continue to do so if we don't clean up our act.
Also, please consider that those of us who try to be educated and aware of unhealthy environmental and social conditions and work to make changes for the good that way are not trying to spread fear. Fear stifles creative life giving energy. Most people I know who work to make life better at least try to have courage. You say some are "fear mongers", I say most are concerned people with a compassion for life.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
I agree, Hedonist, say milk- yuk! Have you tried vanilla flavored rice milk? It's great on cereal, with cookies, etc. and works as a wonderful substitute in pancakes and waffles and such. Also, I recently tried flax milk with vanilla and found it to be very tasty plus flax is rich in omega 3's.
And kudos, riotgrl, for making your own. Home made is always the best choice because you know what goes into your food and less packaging is used.
I also use a similar recipe to make wrinkle cream - I'll let you know if that works
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
or maybe its sedentary lifestyle people are leading, or the increase in illness and serious disease is because we are aging population and our bodies are just naturally breaking down as we get older, maybe it's genetics...who really knows...I do know this if people are waiting for the government to help you good luck with that
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I wonder what the obesity rates between the two countries are. Just a thought and I wonder if Canada doesn't have the problem with obesity that the U.S. does.
probably not as bad ... but I have seen news reports where it's starting to be concern ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_o ... th-obesity
http://www.hivehealthmedia.com/world-ob ... tats-2010/
not sure how accurate it is but i would say that it doesn't shock me if it is as I spend a lot of time in the states ... the problem is like with everything else ... you've got a corporatized gov't that's sole function seems to be to help profiteering by big business ...
the shit that gets approved in the states is mind boggling ... but hey - i'm just a hippy leftist treehugger ... who's out to take away american's freedom! ...
Get outta my cuntry...
Wow, Canada's small potatoes compared to the U.S. Which is funny to me because I know that I tend to eat more and exercise less when it's colder outside, and the opposite when it's warmer. So Canada is doing something right, rather than cozying up inside with comfort food all the time!
i honestly believe that it is tied to the additives and processed nature of much of america's food system ... the obesity rates aren't by chance ... they are in essence manufactured and intentional ...
having said that ... we only look good compared to the US ... still not great ...
i'm out! ...
but back wednesday ...
I wouldn't think that the food in Canada isn't full of preservatives and additives though. I've been in the grocery stores there and they certainly have the packaged food like the U.S. I think portions are a big issue. The straws here at some fast foods (especially McDonald's) have become wider, like we need to pour more soda down our throats at one time. And the soda cups are like a 1/2 gallon large. Are the fast foods like this? Bigger and bigger portions?
it's little things ... like high fructose corn syrup which is referred to as glucose/fructose here ... there are many products that in the states uses it but in the canadian version it doesn't ...
the fast food is definitely similar however the portion sizes are definitely not ...
It does have alot to do with ingredients as well as portion sizes. Countries like Canada and much of Europe ban ingredients that are included in the exact same product here in the US. For example, a cake mix here in the US might contain corn syrups/solids, hydrogenated oils, dyes, etc. that are not included in that same cake mix elsewhere. I can't just copy the chart into my response since I'm at work but check out the full link here: http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/02/11/food-companies-exploit-americans-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/
Scary stuff if you ask me. We assume even our healthy food is ok but it contains all kind of "ingredients" that don't even remotely resemble food.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
thanks for that! ...
Good info, thanks for that link! There's something seriously wrong with our government...
Once I found out milk had as much or more calories as beer ... well, you do the math. If I'm taking on that many calories, I'd better be catching a buzz. :P