Are you comfortable wearing the "Choices" shirt?

Mango

Foriginal Sin wrote:

...although in Arizona everyone carries it just has to be out in the open like in a holster, anyway this was right after the President's speech and I didn't want to bring harm to any kids just because some A-hole is offended by a tshirt. Oh Well....

Sounds like another planet to me. Very alien.

3legged dog

My thoughts on this issue: everyone has a right to be anti or pro gun. Seems to me that law abiding gun owners don't commit gun crimes because they want to retain the right to defend their families and property and don't want to rot in jail hence "law abiding". The real issue is making laws for criminals since they don't obey laws of any kind. I have yet to hear or see any federal law maker put forth a law for illegal possession of any type of gun. I know in massachusetts is 18 months. I live in the city and their is a lot of gang bangers that flaunt their signs, graffiti and are open about their thug life. They have no fear because 18 months in house of corrections is a cake walk for these individuals. If they were to get a minimum of 6 years for illegal that would be a good deterrent for them to be carrying them in public. If this issue was about safety then school buses would have seat belts, they do not. The govt can not control criminals, only law abiding citizens. VP went on tv and said he instructed his wife to grab her shotgun and shot two rounds in the air to scare intruders. Well this advice is illegal and you would go to jail for this advice and probably harm your neighbors as the bullets would randomly fall on your neighbors. The only way for gun control to be affective is to target criminals. Colombine happened five years after the Clinton assault weapons ban was in affect. I understand people who are anti gun, most are not educated on guns and probably never shot one but the law abiding citizen will not be a threat to you, the criminal thug will be. I just don't see the logic of how our govt will send tanks, automatic guns, f16's and missiles to Eygpt to use on their own people and neighbors but law abiding citizens in America can't have a certain number of bullets in their gun. We all just need to come to a fair and reasonable agreement on what laws will stop criminals and mad men. Mental health can be reformed by the pharmaceutical companies to stop making drugs for depressed people that side affects cause suicidal thoughts, that could be a good start. Maybe start there instead of demonizing marajuana users which is a natural medicine.

100 Pacer

RKCNDY wrote:

If I remember correctly, the little girl is a 10c Staff member's daughter.

Jessica Curtis, Kelly Curtis' daughter.

beachbelle

I still wear my Choices tee because it's decidedly anti-gun (as the back of mine reads that kids prefer crayons over guns). I understand some ppl not wanting to wear it because of backlash from others, though.

MG79478

beachbelle wrote:

I still wear my Choices tee because it's decidedly anti-gun (as the back of mine reads that kids prefer crayons over guns). I understand some ppl not wanting to wear it because of backlash from others, though.

Can someone explain this shirt to me? Kids prefer cookies to broccoli, so I don't really see the point to the shirt.

rearviewross

MG79478 wrote:

beachbelle wrote:

I still wear my Choices tee because it's decidedly anti-gun (as the back of mine reads that kids prefer crayons over guns). I understand some ppl not wanting to wear it because of backlash from others, though.

Can someone explain this shirt to me? Kids prefer cookies to broccoli, so I don't really see the point to the shirt.

I think the idea is that violence and more directly relating to the shirt, gun violence and use is not natural. It is instilled in us through media and people around us. Kind of like racism. That is my interpretation of what they are trying to say.

meveret

I own it and I appreciate the message and the design but I never wear it. Most people wouldn't get it and it is really in your face. They also had a shirt in the mid 90s with a starving kid on the front and the back has the american flag and I don't wear that one either! Don't know if any of you remember that one.

rearviewross

meveret wrote:

I own it and I appreciate the message and the design but I never wear it. Most people wouldn't get it and it is really in your face. They also had a shirt in the mid 90s with a starving kid on the front and the back has the american flag and I don't wear that one either! Don't know if any of you remember that one.

I never bought it because I thought it was ugly.

Gizzo

My Mom doesn't like it so I don't wear it around her. I'm 48 - haha.

Ty

I imagine someone not comfortable wearing the shirt wouldn't have bought it in the first place, unless they are a completist collector.

You Americans and your guns... I will never understand. Australia has so little gun violence because we have tough gun laws. Only farmers need guns. Sportsmen too, yes. But you don't need a gun at home. :fp:

Abe Froman

Yes. I really don't give a fuck if people don't like it and I'm not a fan of guns.

Of The Aggie

I used to wear this shirt around my college campus in the mid 90s and got tons of comments about it. All agreeing with the message of the shirt. It was pretty ironic since I went to a VERY conservative school. I put it away years ago because I just don't like shirts with that big printed picture on the front anymore.

rearviewross

Gizzo wrote:

My Mom doesn't like it so I don't wear it around her. I'm 48 - haha.

Lol, you must be Italian.

rearviewross

Ty wrote:

I imagine someone not comfortable wearing the shirt wouldn't have bought it in the first place, unless they are a completist collector.

You Americans and your guns... I will never understand. Australia has so little gun violence because we have tough gun laws. Only farmers need guns. Sportsmen too, yes. But you don't need a gun at home. :fp:

Its all about money, like everything else in America.

calvo17

I wear mine all the time at work, to me it's the coolest PJ t-shirt on sale right now. I just don't give a f*ck about people who stare at me while wearing it. They simply don't get the message. I have had to explain it to some people who have asked me about it and they end up digging it too.

glorified K

I agree that the message is as relevant now as it was then. I have the original and need to dig it out and see if it fits now that I have recently lost a few pounds. Will wear it proudly.

jimbojones1138

yes i am

people need to chill!

MG79478

Of The Aggie wrote:

I used to wear this shirt around my college campus in the mid 90s and got tons of comments about it. All agreeing with the message of the shirt. It was pretty ironic since I went to a VERY conservative school. I put it away years ago because I just don't like shirts with that big printed picture on the front anymore.

I'm not sure why that is ironic. Are you insinuating that conservatives generally like to let kids play with guns?

I think it's ironic that liberals would wear such a shirt when a few years earlier they would have had no problem aborting the same child out of convenience. But wanting to responsibly own a gun to protect your children makes the conservatives the bad guys?

RobbyD462

Sure, I wear it all the time.

Digital Twilight

Regardless of the message it's probably the worst shirt I have ever seen. I'm surprised to see people actually bought it let alone wear it.

gimmesometruth27

i still have mine from 1992, and i wear it at my gigs all the time. i get compliments on it. i had retired it for maybe 5 years and i think since virginia tech i began to wear it more often. i am completely fine wearing it. if people are offended by the shirt, then that is their own issue to deal with.

rearviewross

I am only uncomfortable because I cut out the nipples. Seemed like a good idea at the time... :fp:

Of The Aggie

MG79478 wrote:

Of The Aggie wrote:

I used to wear this shirt around my college campus in the mid 90s and got tons of comments about it. All agreeing with the message of the shirt. It was pretty ironic since I went to a VERY conservative school. I put it away years ago because I just don't like shirts with that big printed picture on the front anymore.

I'm not sure why that is ironic. Are you insinuating that conservatives generally like to let kids play with guns?

I think it's ironic that liberals would wear such a shirt when a few years earlier they would have had no problem aborting the same child out of convenience. But wanting to responsibly own a gun to protect your children makes the conservatives the bad guys?

I'm not saying that conservatives want kids to play with guns, what I'm saying is that a lot of times conservatives take any mention of something anti-gun as a personal insult and get worked up over it. Like you've just done here...

And as for your little abortion dig there, termination of a pregnancy is not just done by poor, black, teenage girls. There are plenty of times when nice, married, 30-something, white couples have to make difficult decisions to terminate a pregnancy and many of those are labeled an abortion, especially in Texas. And to turn around your dig at liberals. It's nice when conservatives fight tooth and nail to save that child and then want no part of caring for it after it's born.

cincybearcat

Love the shirt. Always wanted it. Never bought it. Almost did and then I realized I'd be wearing it around my now 5 year old and all her friends and I didn't think it would be that appropriate. And I didn't want to force a conversation on other parents it their kids said something or asked.

So, while I love the shirt, I am not currently comfortable wearing it.

Sinnamin_Grrl

rearviewross wrote:

I am only uncomfortable because I cut out the nipples. Seemed like a good idea at the time... :fp:

LOL, MEE TOOOO

PJ_Soul

I kind of think that someone not wearing that shirt because of real life issues with gun violence would actually be making a statement about trying to ignore reality, and purposefully not making a statement about the issue. IMO the shirt is more relevant than ever..... I don't even wear t-shirts - the last rock t-shirt I owned was a Zeppelin one in 1993. But still.

MG79478

Of The Aggie wrote:

MG79478 wrote:

Of The Aggie wrote:

I used to wear this shirt around my college campus in the mid 90s and got tons of comments about it. All agreeing with the message of the shirt. It was pretty ironic since I went to a VERY conservative school. I put it away years ago because I just don't like shirts with that big printed picture on the front anymore.

I'm not sure why that is ironic. Are you insinuating that conservatives generally like to let kids play with guns?

I think it's ironic that liberals would wear such a shirt when a few years earlier they would have had no problem aborting the same child out of convenience. But wanting to responsibly own a gun to protect your children makes the conservatives the bad guys?

I'm not saying that conservatives want kids to play with guns, what I'm saying is that a lot of times conservatives take any mention of something anti-gun as a personal insult and get worked up over it. Like you've just done here...

And as for your little abortion dig there, termination of a pregnancy is not just done by poor, black, teenage girls. There are plenty of times when nice, married, 30-something, white couples have to make difficult decisions to terminate a pregnancy and many of those are labeled an abortion, especially in Texas. And to turn around your dig at liberals. It's nice when conservatives fight tooth and nail to save that child and then want no part of caring for it after it's born.

Yes, I was REALLY insulted and worked up… I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. I’m not sure why you need to make your post racial, but I will be ignoring that part. I’m not surprised, because it’s what liberals do, but I will still be ignoring it. I do love the typical rhetoric and platitudes you throw out. You should ask yourself if that is really what your beliefs are based on.

Birth control is dirt cheap, and even if you are trying, it’s actually pretty tough to get pregnant. There really is no reason for “accidents” to occur. Plus I know many parents who had a hell of a time adopting a baby, there are plenty of loving parents out there wishing they could have kids. Let’s throw out medical issues and rape, there are at times need for an abortion. I’m talking about the ~95% of abortions that are done out of convenience. If abortions were tougher to get, people would be more careful because there is no fall back (“do over”) option. You act as that all aborted babies would be born and need care. What is the left doing to take care of our children….? We all see the damage that is being done to their future by the current administration’s reckless policies.

PJ_Soul

How in the fuck did this turn into a debate about abortion??? :roll:

Of The Aggie

PJ_Soul wrote:

How in the fuck did this turn into a debate about abortion??? :roll:

MG79478 brought it up when he/she responded to my first post. It's obvious we are not going to agree on either gun control or abortion so I'll let it rest so this thread can get back to the original topic (which I kinda guess was sort of about gun control! )

PJ_Soul

Of The Aggie wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

How in the fuck did this turn into a debate about abortion??? :roll:

MG79478 brought it up when he/she responded to my first post. It's obvious we are not going to agree on either gun control or abortion so I'll let it rest so this thread can get back to the original topic (which I kinda guess was sort of about gun control! )

I definitely took it to be about gun control. And I think it's a great shirt - anyone who thinks more gun control is needed should like this shirt for that message, because it's a poignant one.