Satan--prince of darkness or down-on-his-luck angel?

pandora

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

I don't believe in Satan ... no offense

just evil

but you must understand him, right?

if understanding ever becomes a fault we know there is evil about

when I laid my head to rest last night I wondered why I believe in good as much as I do.
I got an answer back and it wasn't from Satan.

My answer ... it is good to believe.
Man did I sleep good too best in a long time.

catefrances

brianlux wrote:

Maybe a metaphor for both. Evil is bigger than a character in a myth... but love trumps.

so the opposite of love is evil? hmmm :think: i always thought the opposite of badness (aka evil) is goodness.

BinauralJam

Bentleyspop wrote:

Satan killed 10 people, God 2 million +.

I think you got your numbers wrong...Dick Cheney is responsible for many more deaths then that[/quote]

Sadly True

dancepartner

catefrances wrote:

i understand. mankind invented satan (just as they invented God) in order that the peeps believe in God in all his glory. there has to be balance.. there had to be a bad guy, so satan is it. the 'evil'(i prefer badness) of mankind is inside them and their own doing.. just as the goodness in mankind is their own and not the result of a supernatural being. both are simply tools of control.

My vote for best answer.

& for me, I prefer to think of there are 2 monkeys on my back clutching my shoulder, whispering in my ear. Sometimes I listen to the wrong one....

JonnyPistachio

Anybody read Memnock the Devil by Anne Rice?
Its the 5th or 6th book in her vampires series. I didnt like it much the first time I read it, but I re-read it a few years ago, and it was an awesome take on the devils fall from grace. I really enjoyed it.

BinauralJam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Anybody read Memnock the Devil by Anne Rice?
Its the 5th or 6th book in her vampires series. I didnt like it much the first time I read it, but I re-read it a few years ago, and it was an awesome take on the devils fall from grace. I really enjoyed it.

Yup, cant walk by St. Pats without thinking about it.

redrock

catefrances wrote:

i understand. mankind invented satan (just as they invented God) in order that the peeps believe in God in all his glory. there has to be balance.. there had to be a bad guy, so satan is it. the 'evil'(i prefer badness) of mankind is inside them and their own doing.. just as the goodness in mankind is their own and not the result of a supernatural being. both are simply tools of control.

Don't believe in god, so don't believe in satan. Though one can look at the god/satan, good/bad thing as just another expression of yin & yang. Opposite yet interconnected force - one cannot be without the other. But yes - within man and not supernatural....

Jonny - I have a soft spot for Anne Rice and the Vampire Chronicles :oops:

brianlux

catefrances wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Maybe a metaphor for both. Evil is bigger than a character in a myth... but love trumps.

so the opposite of love is evil? hmmm :think: i always thought the opposite of badness (aka evil) is goodness.

I posted this late last night and then went to bed and realized I had really meant "goodness trumps" and wanted to get up and change it but Satan had me pinned down with his famous "Devil's Half-Nelson". This hold is exactly why wrestling has been eliminated from the Olympics. Oh, that damned Satan!

JonnyPistachio

BinauralJam wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Anybody read Memnock the Devil by Anne Rice?
Its the 5th or 6th book in her vampires series. I didnt like it much the first time I read it, but I re-read it a few years ago, and it was an awesome take on the devils fall from grace. I really enjoyed it.

Yup, cant walk by St. Pats without thinking about it.

Oh yeah, I someimtes forget the locations are real haha

redrock wrote:

Jonny - I have a soft spot for Anne Rice and the Vampire Chronicles :oops:

I remember.

Jeanwah

brianlux wrote:

catefrances wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Maybe a metaphor for both. Evil is bigger than a character in a myth... but love trumps.

so the opposite of love is evil? hmmm :think: i always thought the opposite of badness (aka evil) is goodness.

I posted this late last night and then went to bed and realized I had really meant "goodness trumps" and wanted to get up and change it but Satan had me pinned down with his famous "Devil's Half-Nelson". This hold is exactly why wrestling has been eliminated from the Olympics. Oh, that damned Satan!

So that's the reason why wrestling has been eliminated!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Jeanwah wrote:

So that's the reason why wrestling has been eliminated!

how they can eliminate one of oldest, purest competitions from the olympics is beyond me.

hedonist

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

So that's the reason why wrestling has been eliminated!

how they can eliminate one of oldest, purest competitions from the olympics is beyond me.

Reminds me of that King of Queens episode, where Spence and Danny wrestle to see who'll pick where they go on vacation.

"We need a ref...otherwise, this doesn't look right."

dancepartner

Wrestling is gone from Olympics or just certain satanic moves?

Cosmo

Man created Satan to be the counter balance to his other creation... God.

mysticweed

the deification of god and the vilification of satan
are the result of both physics and the energy that begat said physics
see?

peacefrompaul

"Lay my hands on heaven and the sun and the moon and the stars
While the devil wants to fuck me in the back of his car..."

:shock:

goldrush

Greg Dulli knows the score:

"And as we ride away into the countryside
I feel as though I must confide
There is a cost

When you say 'Now we got Hell to pay'
Don't worry, baby, that's okay
I know the boss"

satansbed

Actually god is doctor who and satan is the valyard which was the evil part of the doctor which split from him sometime between his 12th and final incarnation

I know because I'm his bed

BinauralJam

satansbed wrote:

Actually god is doctor who and satan is the valyard which was the evil part of the doctor which split from him sometime between his 12th and final incarnation

I know because I'm his bed

Does the Doctor sleep?

Cosmo

Isn't most of what modern society's perception of Satan/Lucifer derived from Milton's 'Paradise Lost' and/or Dante's 'Inferno'?
Can someone point me to the story of Lucifer from the Bible?

Thanx.