Eddie super PISSED-Camden night 2!

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  • AstirdAstird Posts: 168
    There was a point in Ottawa that he got really pissy too.
  • donravendonraven Posts: 144
    Id be pissed too if i had to stay in jersey for two nights
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  • grace6697grace6697 Posts: 1,191
    i'm pro the towel theory but what was the whole mike hugging it out bit? and ed's speech on different personalities when he got back for encore 1?
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  • eddies grrleddies grrl Posts: 509
    Yeah, did he address the asshole who threw the shirt. Hey listen up: HE DOESN;T WANT YOUR FUCKING SHIRT. Jersey assholes. Perfect example.

    hate to break it to ya, but there were many, many people there from outside of jersey. no need to be rude. what a stupid thing to say. :rolleyes:

    here's an idea- next time, stay the fuck home. more tickets for us jersey assholes. or, maybe you live in bumfuck, pennsylvania and the boys don't play there? gee, that sucks for you, then.
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  • eddies grrleddies grrl Posts: 509
    donraven wrote:
    Id be pissed too if i had to stay in jersey for two nights


    and you can stay the fuck home next tour, too.
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  • eddies grrleddies grrl Posts: 509
    Soybeans wrote:
    My take on the whole thing is this: Eddie did fastball a pick at Jeff. He broke his string on the next song as he hammered away. Then he tossed the mic stand on the next song. Finally he tossed his guitar at his monitor at the end of RVM and left the stage without the rest of the guys before the song was over. When they came back out Mike was pepping him up. Pats on the back, half a hug, etc...
    As far as Mike's solo, I think it rocked both nights. I could read Matt's lips right after, as he approached Mike. He said "that was awesome".

    sounds to me like he was being a fucking prima donna. maybe the band needs to kick his ass before the next show, snap his ass back down to earth. :)
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  • AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    sounds to me like he was being a fucking prima donna. maybe the band needs to kick his ass before the next show, snap his ass back down to earth. :)

    Considering the amount of passion, creativity and energy he lets out on stage, this is small shit. I'm sure his bandmates & crew forgive him and understand. Some things come with the territory. I'd also bet money he makes it up to them.


    As for the photographer, he was a moron and deserved anything he got.





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  • Mamasan80Mamasan80 Posts: 298
    why do I find this thread so entertaining?

    I read earlier speculation that Ed was angry with Mike because he wasn't 'into' the songs enough, or something like that. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

    I like this version of events much better. Good job snagging the towel!!!

    The original version you heard was the correct one. The pick was thrown in Mike's direction, but did come a lot closer to hitting Jeff - and while mccready was hamming it up for the Phillies and their girlfriends that were sidestage, he was playing a half assed Garden, and it resulted in anger from Ed for the entire second half of the song - it wasn't something that happened after the song. Hence the little speech Ed gave before the first encore, Mike's subdued nature during the encore, and he and Mike "hugging it out" before Encore #2.

    With the photographer, while that is Camden security's fault, I am sure they were a little confused by the presence of Danny and his son.

    Bigger Wave, not to be an asshole or chastize, but press photographers are allowed 3 songs at any pearl jam show before being escorted out. On several occasions you will see Kerensa, Danny Clich, Lance Mercer, or Charles Peterson (not so much for the last two lately) taking photos at any point in the show, and you may see Liz or Kevin filming from down there - but no one is making anything up about the 3 song rule. (As for my source on that, I've been front row at about 40-50 shows, including shows that were later released at DVD's... and this is how it works.)
  • obviously you guys aren't musicians..

    a pick is a mm thick piece of plastic..

    speaking as a guitar player, we throw them at eachother all the time.

    it's not like it was a rock or something..

    the worst reaction would have been: "Ow ed you hit me in the eye".... 'oh im sorry'... 'no biggie' "
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  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    dte421 wrote:
    (As for my source on that, I've been front row at about 40-50 shows, including shows that were later released at DVD's... and this is how it works.)


    Exactly why the senority ticketing system needs some sort of change
  • AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    obviously you guys aren't musicians..

    a pick is a mm thick piece of plastic..

    speaking as a guitar player, we throw them at eachother all the time.

    it's not like it was a rock or something..

    the worst reaction would have been: "Ow ed you hit me in the eye".... 'oh im sorry'... 'no biggie' "


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  • AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    dte421 wrote:
    The original version you heard was the correct one. The pick was thrown in Mike's direction, but did come a lot closer to hitting Jeff - and while mccready was hamming it up for the Phillies and their girlfriends that were sidestage, he was playing a half assed Garden, and it resulted in anger from Ed for the entire second half of the song - it wasn't something that happened after the song.

    they played garden. uhm. probably a good thing i wasn't aware of it.


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  • groovNgroovN Posts: 92
    dte421 wrote:
    The original version you heard was the correct one. The pick was thrown in Mike's direction, but did come a lot closer to hitting Jeff - and while mccready was hamming it up for the Phillies and their girlfriends that were sidestage, he was playing a half assed Garden, and it resulted in anger from Ed for the entire second half of the song - it wasn't something that happened after the song. Hence the little speech Ed gave before the first encore, Mike's subdued nature during the encore, and he and Mike "hugging it out" before Encore #2.

    With the photographer, while that is Camden security's fault, I am sure they were a little confused by the presence of Danny and his son.

    Bigger Wave, not to be an asshole or chastize, but press photographers are allowed 3 songs at any pearl jam show before being escorted out. On several occasions you will see Kerensa, Danny Clich, Lance Mercer, or Charles Peterson (not so much for the last two lately) taking photos at any point in the show, and you may see Liz or Kevin filming from down there - but no one is making anything up about the 3 song rule. (As for my source on that, I've been front row at about 40-50 shows, including shows that were later released at DVD's... and this is how it works.)

    thanks for clearing that up!

    ya know, i would imagine that living with people non-stop for an extended period is enough to make you want to choke the living crap out of them from time to time, just because they are breathing let alone messing up an incredible song like garden ;) hey, i felt like that earlier today :D

    we cant imagine any of these guys getting on anyones LAST nerve, but we don't live with them!
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    dte421 wrote:
    (As for my source on that, I've been front row at about 40-50 shows, including shows that were later released at DVD's... and this is how it works.)

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  • iwasthereiwasthere Posts: 511
    when i say toy rats i mean , the ones u buy at a pet store for your cats to play with i think it would be funny. and i never heard rats 27 shows and still waiting


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  • jam_headjam_head Posts: 125
    Exactly why the senority ticketing system needs some sort of change


    right on man..ive been i fan since 93 i think i deserve something near front row atleast once. i would have joined back then but i was 11 yrs old!
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  • PearlJamBobPearlJamBob Posts: 77
    here's an interesting article on concert photography, which solidifies the 3 song rule

    http://www.photocritic.org/2006/live-band-concert-photography/

    article excerpt:

    "........So, how can you take photos at a concert successfully? First of all, remember the “standard” rules for most concerts:

    No flash photography
    First 3 songs only
    What the security guys say is Gospel........"
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  • SmallTownSmallTown Posts: 152
    dte421 wrote:
    The original version you heard was the correct one. The pick was thrown in Mike's direction, but did come a lot closer to hitting Jeff - and while mccready was hamming it up for the Phillies and their girlfriends that were sidestage, he was playing a half assed Garden, and it resulted in anger from Ed for the entire second half of the song - it wasn't something that happened after the song. Hence the little speech Ed gave before the first encore, Mike's subdued nature during the encore, and he and Mike "hugging it out" before Encore #2.


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  • DEEPDEEP Posts: 274
    who cares, at least you got to see THE BAND! do you ever get super pissed?
  • Code13Code13 Posts: 17
    Eddie Vedder circa early 90s is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • janegosfordjanegosford Posts: 179
    dte421 wrote:
    The original version you heard was the correct one. The pick was thrown in Mike's direction, but did come a lot closer to hitting Jeff - and while mccready was hamming it up for the Phillies and their girlfriends that were sidestage, he was playing a half assed Garden, and it resulted in anger from Ed for the entire second half of the song - it wasn't something that happened after the song. Hence the little speech Ed gave before the first encore, Mike's subdued nature during the encore, and he and Mike "hugging it out" before Encore #2.

    With the photographer, while that is Camden security's fault, I am sure they were a little confused by the presence of Danny and his son.

    Bigger Wave, not to be an asshole or chastize, but press photographers are allowed 3 songs at any pearl jam show before being escorted out. On several occasions you will see Kerensa, Danny Clich, Lance Mercer, or Charles Peterson (not so much for the last two lately) taking photos at any point in the show, and you may see Liz or Kevin filming from down there - but no one is making anything up about the 3 song rule. (As for my source on that, I've been front row at about 40-50 shows, including shows that were later released at DVD's... and this is how it works.)

    What speech did Ed give before the first encore?
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,289
    I haven't read the entire threads but Eddie was pissed at Mike? Is that right?
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  • SPALMASPALMA Posts: 2,279
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    I haven't read the entire threads but Eddie was pissed at Mike? Is that right?

    no. read page 1 & 2
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,289
    A press photographer overstepped boundaries. That's not nice. I hope he doesn't sue because he was hit with a towel, you think? Does he have a case?
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  • PearlJamBobPearlJamBob Posts: 77
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    A press photographer overstepped boundaries. That's not nice. I hope he doesn't sue because he was hit with a towel, you think? Does he have a case?

    i think in order to sue he would need the towel as proof. I have the towel and if he asks me for it I'll say "what towel?"
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,289
    i think in order to sue he would need the towel as proof. I have the towel and if he asks me for it I'll say "what towel?"
    Good job!;)
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  • LBC1076LBC1076 Posts: 224
    I'm pretty sure he was pissed because he saw the way "the fans" left the parking lot after the first night.
  • JoanneJoanne Posts: 98
    soulshine wrote:
    Um, as stated above, PJ's crew/photographer, karensa, etc., are there all night. PRESS people are only suppose to be there for a few songs.

    Ed can of course recognize his own videographers and photographers. They are allowed to be there the whole concert. NOT local press photogs or camera men. Jesus you guys!
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  • Smile78Smile78 Posts: 9
    Hi everyone.

    Interesting to hear the stories regarding all of this. I work for a small entertainment mag and was able to get a photo pass for the Holmdel NJ show on the last tour. It's true that you only get to stay up in the front area for 3 songs, and then you are escorted back to your seat. I guess some photographers are busy and arent fans so they just leave.

    But Im wondering why eddie would get mad about a photographer staying up there for more songs, even if the venue prohibits it. Was he blocking other people's views? Or maybe had the flash on (your usually not allowed a flash either)?
  • PearlJamBobPearlJamBob Posts: 77
    Smile78 wrote:
    Hi everyone.

    Interesting to hear the stories regarding all of this. I work for a small entertainment mag and was able to get a photo pass for the Holmdel NJ show on the last tour. It's true that you only get to stay up in the front area for 3 songs, and then you are escorted back to your seat. I guess some photographers are busy and arent fans so they just leave.

    But Im wondering why eddie would get mad about a photographer staying up there for more songs, even if the venue prohibits it. Was he blocking other people's views? Or maybe had the flash on (your usually not allowed a flash either)?

    he wasn't blocking anyone's view, although it seemed like all the photogs were staying on the right side in front of Stone. there were 2 photogs (guy and his daughter) there from the "Coalition of Independent Music Stores" but they had all access passes so they were ok, Danny Clinch was there with his kid but was sidestage for most of the show, then there were 3-4 press photographers who stayed on the right side. Maybe Eddie was pissed that they weren't showing Mike any love?
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