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  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    obiwon76 wrote:
    Wow, after reading some of the reviews from the show and particularily the audience, I'm really surprised. Seriously, I've thought about this before, who goes to a PJ jam without knowing the words to the songs, or is unfamailar with the new songs? I've always had a displeasure being next to a person at a show who is totally clueless to a song or keeps screaming out for something from "Ten". Yes, it's a free world, but I think PJ is a band that is beyond the stage of just "going to the show to be cool". This show is very apparent that the band, especially Ed is aware of the mood and relies of us the fans to participate. I think Sydney has seen it's last PJ show for awhile, and who would blame the band for it.
    The thing is we're capable of putting a good crowd together- I refer you to the first show.

    Curtis Management's choice to deal with Coppel the piece of shit excuse of a promoter, whose business decision meant no block of 10c on the floor, and no proper announcement about the second show going on sale at the same time, meant that many diehards missed out on the floor. And when the floor is kickin', there's always an effect on the rest of the crowd and the band. Hope Syd 3 will make us look a tiny bit better. Not holding high hopes, though. Again, Coppel... to hold 3 shows at the soulless reverb-saturated behemoth that is Superdome is just plain stupid.

    No, I don't exactly hold Curtis and Coppel in high regard.
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  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,891
    Can someone please post the complete setlist from the second sydney show?
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  • Sonja_SSonja_S Posts: 444
    obiwon76 wrote:
    Seriously, I've thought about this before, who goes to a PJ jam without knowing the words to the songs, or is unfamailar with the new songs?

    My sister? She likes PJ, only owned Rearviewmirror until I gave her Avocado though, but there was never a question about her wanting to come to the gig. She's just a more 'casual' fan, I guess there's a lot of those around. She said she'll definitely be in for a road trip the next tour and trust me, she will have to know the lyrics by then. It's not exactly fun to stand next to a pillar for the enire show, so she'll have to loosen up :D
    I was positively surprised by the Vienna crowd this year, usually we are a bunch of stoic people standing around. Seems like Austria and Australia have more in common than some letters in their names ;)
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  • gp10gp10 Posts: 30
    Agreed with everything already said about the crowd. So much different to the awesomeness of the night before.

    Also Noticed that nothing from Riot Act has been played yet. I'm not really upset about that though I would love to hear All or none or You Are.

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  • ozpjman wrote:
    In summary, tonight was absolutely awesome, the setlist kicked serious arse, the boys are still in form, but the crowd left alot to be desired...

    good thing i don't go to concerts to watch or listen to the crowd.
  • kerrangkerrang Posts: 434
    Well, actually the crowd play a very important role during a PJ concert.
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  • lockedlocked Posts: 4,039
    "To let you know how bad it was… during Baba O’ no one knew the words “Don’t Cry...” they were supposed to sing, leading Eddie to say “Come On!”. Thanks PJ for playing out the set, despite the terrible crowd. By far the worst I have ever seen at a PJ show (after 10 months in Sydney, this city may have the worst rock crowds in the world). "

    I just can't wrap my brain around this..

    WTF were they expecting, more Pink Floyd cover bands?
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  • twojawastwojawas Posts: 318
    Show 1 in Sydney was magic though.

    Both the crowd and band were firing on all cylinders.

    Funny how things change from night to night.
  • I DONT AGREE...i was disappointed to have bad seats this concert, compared to 7th row on tuesday...and up the back it is totally different. people still sing along, they just aint as DIE HARD as the people up the front. and remember most of these ppl up the back and anywhere really, wanna hear, jeremy, last kiss, daughter, alive, evenflow, elderly woman, etc...the radio concert goers... you cant blame the crowd when the boys play some rarities! thats why they are called rarities! for us, who know all the words to PJ songs and covers etc, it was an awesome set.

    after the show i was speaking to a few ppl who havent heard some of those songs, and now are going to go and buy the cds, bootlegs etc, coz they enjoyed it so much!

    they would have gained some new fans from last night also! there are positives whereever you look!

    now if Eddie was so disappointed with the crowd, why did he want them to sing the "Dont Cry...." part of Baba? surely he knew what was coming if he was so disappointed with the crowd earlier on!

    ah well im not taking sides...i just think there are positives to come out of last night....and not all this negative talk! it was an awesome show...
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  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    ziggidy wrote:
    now if Eddie was so disappointed with the crowd, why did he want them to sing the "Dont Cry...." part of Baba? surely he knew what was coming if he was so disappointed with the crowd earlier on!
    I think it's frustration and surprise that the crowd doesn't seem to know a song like Baba, an absolute rock staple.
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  • i think Baba was the only real suprise of the night.

    The rest of the night was fine. I think people are definitely over reacting
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  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    ziggidy wrote:
    i think Baba was the only real suprise of the night.

    The rest of the night was fine. I think people are definitely over reacting
    I had people getting pissed off behind me. I think context matters. The diehards were scattered all over because of the ticketing arrangement, so there wasn't a core of enthusiasts on the floor. 2nd row people were leaving after the set.

    My 2 sections (I was standing up at the railings down the middle of the aisle) weren't completely dead, but I can count on one hand the number of people who stood up the entire show. Not much clapping going on, very little enthusiasm- I love this city. I do. But we really don't have a good rock crowd compared to other places. I had a pretty good vantage point of the front rows on the floor- I haven't seen such little response since Japan, but with the Japanese I know that's their way of silent appreciation.

    I hate being told that there will be 2 encores coming. Especially when it's a guy who only stands up for Ten songs.
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  • ozpjmanozpjman Posts: 872
    frogwater wrote:
    good thing i don't go to concerts to watch or listen to the crowd.

    yeah, that was a well thought out comment, nice work
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  • i think people have to understand how many casual fans there are at a gig! we will never have a gig of DIE HARDS! the bloody venue had 17,000 people there! and when die hards are scattered it doesnt help, and we feel let down when we are singing for example to sad, and ppl around us just move there heads up and down!
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  • yah i thought it was awesome.. people were awesome, crowd was awesome.. and the band.. well what can ya say ! ( cept for baba, but hey not many of them know the words, not everyone in the stadium is massive nutters like us) for the most part all the other songs were sung along to, well from where i was standing it sure as hell looked and sounded like it... it was a brilliant 2 nights.. next stop brissy!!!! :D
  • Tom KTom K Posts: 842
    The Who not big in Aust. ? Baba is one of their best known songs here in the states..
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  • yah i thought it was awesome.. people were awesome, crowd was awesome.. and the band.. well what can ya say ! ( cept for baba, but hey not many of them know the words, not everyone in the stadium is massive nutters like us) for the most part all the other songs were sung along to, well from where i was standing it sure as hell looked and sounded like it... it was a brilliant 2 nights.. next stop brissy!!!! :D

    ABOUT TIME SOMEONE AGREED WITH ME!

    the 2 sydney shows were unbelievable! they truly were! people interstate, the one thing you will notice from the last tour is that the band is way more into it this time round! ride the big wave with them!
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  • Tom K wrote:
    The Who not big in Aust. ? Baba is one of their best known songs here in the states..
    the Who dont get airplay in australia!

    nothing good gets airplay in sydney really!

    the who only do one show performances in australian cities and they barely sell out!
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  • ziggidy wrote:
    ABOUT TIME SOMEONE AGREED WITH ME!

    the 2 sydney shows were unbelievable! they truly were! people interstate, the one thing you will notice from the last tour is that the band is way more into it this time round! ride the big wave with them!


    totally! i was surprised when i read all this crap! i have had one of the best tours ever, and we are only up to show 2!!! i have been to every tour, so its not like i dont have anything to compare it to, you make your own fun and for me i was the only person in that room listening and rocking out to pj.. and fucking hell mike goes off.. that man has a new lease on life.. he is so awesome!!!
  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    Hinny wrote:
    You are the only one who seems to think better audience participation. Fair enough, if that's your impression, but where were your seats? I looked down from the tiers, and the crowd was ordinary, right from the first row.

    I was Quite high up on both nights... Participation singing along sucked badly, but the crowd sounded a lot louder, and a lot more organised in the encore breaks, however they dropped 2 ten tracks leading into the encore which may have had something to do with it.

    I would understand the lack of singing due to:

    People not knowing A sort of homecoming, Sad, Down, and Baba O'Riley
    Due to these being Covers/B-Sides (Sad off other side single, Down on the I am Mine Single, A sort of homecoming being a U2 cover, and Baba being an old time favourite ;) )

    Throw the following new songs into the mix:
    Life Wasted, World Wide Suicide, Unemployable, Army Reserve, Comatose, and Come Back which a lot of people might not fully know the words to yet.

    Out of 25 songs, you have 10 songs that a lot of people dont know or dont know so well.

    I saw a similar thing happen in 98... Yield had just come out, I was singing along whilst others looked on dumbfounded.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    i was preparing myself for the negative reviews on my way into work on the bus this morning.... seems there are a few.... and they have a point.....
    but so do the reviews that are positive. i am sydney born and bred and there is some elitism and "too cool for school"ness about us sometimes - it's true.
    but last night was ultimately better than any of the 2003 shows in my opinion and even though the crowd was a little lacklustre at times, the performance of the band, and the reaction to the "hits", couldnt be faulted.
    i was 8th row on the floor and have developed what i have named "pearl jam shoulder" in my left shoulder after all the clapping/dancing/air punching i have done over the last 2 nights. but i can't lie - i looked in front of me and there was a lot of head nodding going on in those first few rows and not much else.
    now correct me if i am wrong... i have never been on stage before.... but without the house lights on the guys can only probably see the first 10 or so rows from the stage.....?
    and there was some apathy from those areas early on... melbourne cup hangover perhaps??
    look, rather than make excuses, i would say that last nights set was awesome even if i was a little let down by others in the crowd.... perhaps the guys should have played last nights set which was a little more ecletic on the first night with the 10club presence - and saved the hit heavy 1st nights list for last night and the "casual fan".....
    i can't wait for melbourne (3 nights of fun - and a week off work!). lets see of you melburnians can live up to the reputation you love to bestow upon yourselves as the entertainment capital! i hope so and this sydneysider for one will be helping you!

    one last thing - i wish they let 10clubbers get tickets for every show. i am positive that with the same 10 club presence up front last night that were there on tuesday night the rest of the crowd would have followed suit and the band would have really given us a show to treasure.
  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    Hinny wrote:
    The thing is we're capable of putting a good crowd together- I refer you to the first show.

    Curtis Management's choice to deal with Coppel the piece of shit excuse of a promoter, whose business decision meant no block of 10c on the floor, and no proper announcement about the second show going on sale at the same time, meant that many diehards missed out on the floor. And when the floor is kickin', there's always an effect on the rest of the crowd and the band. Hope Syd 3 will make us look a tiny bit better. Not holding high hopes, though. Again, Coppel... to hold 3 shows at the soulless reverb-saturated behemoth that is Superdome is just plain stupid.

    No, I don't exactly hold Curtis and Coppel in high regard.


    I was really annoyed with this... I am not a member of the 10 club, but a bit of a diehard... I was interneting and speed dialing on the phone for ages to get my tix.

    I was checking on the off chance a second show had been added and to find out when it had been on sale and much to my disgust it had just been added and was nearly gone by the time I realised.

    They are obviously having troubles selling the third show with the flyers in the seats.
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  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    gp10 wrote:
    Also Noticed that nothing from Riot Act has been played yet. I'm not really upset about that though I would love to hear All or none or You Are.

    Im hangin for those two tracks.

    One more gig so there is still hope.

    All or none is a bit of a special. It doesnt get played too often.

    Have you heard it on Benaroya Hall? I was blown away by that.
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  • After sleeping on it for a night, I am even more proud of the band for playing out the set and trying like they did. They worked it to try and get the crowd going. You could see it in Eddie's eyes as the frustration mounted. Maybe that is why Not for You, Whipping and Porch sounded so good, as he was angry/frustrated and it came out in the music. It had an edge. Instead of mailing it in for the last half of the show, the band circled up, fed off each other (any time there was not a solo they were facing each other not the crowd) and did their best to rock out the set. I applaud them for brining it the rest of the show. The crowd at Sydney #1 was great. If the set list from Sydney #2 would have been played with the crowd at #1, it would have been an all time great.

    I total understand that most of the people there are casual fans and the context of the fan lay out does matter. Maybe night #1 set list, with all the hits, would have been better at night #2 so people could have sung along with what they know. I am not angry at the casual fan for not knowing the words to Baba O, or the clapping intro to Corduroy, or the YA!-YA!-YA! chant during alive. I am happy they came and hope they turn into huge fans. I am just frustrated they stood there without letting go. It's a concert people... don’t just sit there, have some fun (been in Sydney 10 months and have now seen a Ben Harper, Rolling Stones, and Coldplay show where the crowd sat the entire time... this is just not a good rock city). Even if you don’t know the routine, positive energy feeds the vibe and everyone has a good time. Standing around doesn’t do anything.

    The frustration from the diehards (especially those of us who have seen them in North America and Europe where the fan base is so huge and devoted) is that we know how great they shows can be with good crowd participation. None of us will say that PJ did bad. We know they rocked last night. We just know that if they crowd would have been 10 club fuelled, Sydney #2 would have been one of the most memorable concert experiences of our lives. It is just our frustration coming out.

    From the true fans out there, thank you to Boon, Matt, Jeff, Stone, Mike and Eddie for trying your best. I appreciate it.

    Die Hards... we need to bring our A game for night #3. It can work… Positive energy at the gig and sing loud.
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    any pearl jam show is great but it sadens me that aussie crowds arent the best in the world.... they seem to be the worse whether its a problem with the promoters or the demagraphic itself.... I think there are way too many people going who have no clue what pearl jam are about. I mean you go to see pj in Los Angeles are people all around the stadium are so pumped they are almost falling off the rafters.... Australia is just different. Maybe people in Aust just don't know good music (like the who which shocks me).... Triple M and Nova should have a good look at itself.
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  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    How good were those guys with the sign "We found you a shack ed"
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  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    In The SMH today:

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/passion-upstages-posing/2006/11/08/1162661757623.html

    Playing the rock songs that dominated the first two-thirds of the two-hour-plus set, Pearl Jam was unstoppable. Worldwide Suicide, Animal, Given to Fly, Better Man and Evolution Baby stormed by. Vedder showed off his vocal range - and perhaps even a glimmer of humour - in a complicated call-and-response breakdown of early hit Daughter. He weighed in on the US mid-term elections - no surprises there.

    Then it went wrong: when they returned after a break, they sat on stools to perform a long set of acoustic ballads (including Man of the Hour and Black). The patience of all but diehard fans was tested. The payoff eventually came in the form of the anthemic 1991 breakthrough Alive, and a generous encore. But by then it had been too much of a good thing.
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  • dcafe wrote:
    In The SMH today:

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/passion-upstages-posing/2006/11/08/1162661757623.html

    Playing the rock songs that dominated the first two-thirds of the two-hour-plus set, Pearl Jam was unstoppable. Worldwide Suicide, Animal, Given to Fly, Better Man and Evolution Baby stormed by. Vedder showed off his vocal range - and perhaps even a glimmer of humour - in a complicated call-and-response breakdown of early hit Daughter. He weighed in on the US mid-term elections - no surprises there.

    Then it went wrong: when they returned after a break, they sat on stools to perform a long set of acoustic ballads (including Man of the Hour and Black). The patience of all but diehard fans was tested. The payoff eventually came in the form of the anthemic 1991 breakthrough Alive, and a generous encore. But by then it had been too much of a good thing.

    That review is of night #1
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  • Dan CDan C Posts: 206
    Telomere wrote:
    That review is of night #1

    Sorry... Wrong Thread

    This is what we are up against in our fair city though :/
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    dcafe wrote:
    In The SMH today:

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/passion-upstages-posing/2006/11/08/1162661757623.html

    Playing the rock songs that dominated the first two-thirds of the two-hour-plus set, Pearl Jam was unstoppable. Worldwide Suicide, Animal, Given to Fly, Better Man and Evolution Baby stormed by. Vedder showed off his vocal range - and perhaps even a glimmer of humour - in a complicated call-and-response breakdown of early hit Daughter. He weighed in on the US mid-term elections - no surprises there.

    Then it went wrong: when they returned after a break, they sat on stools to perform a long set of acoustic ballads (including Man of the Hour and Black). The patience of all but diehard fans was tested. The payoff eventually came in the form of the anthemic 1991 breakthrough Alive, and a generous encore. But by then it had been too much of a good thing.

    npt a bad review though.. I like "came on like a more deciplned Crazy Horse".
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