All this tip talk made me think of the Seinfeld when George was trying to replace an answering machine tape, and his desist code to Jerry was "tippy toe!"
it depends on where i am, if i was in the states i would always tip because i know most of the wait staff aren't earning under minimum wage, however if im back in Ireland i would only tip if the service was good because they earn at minimum €8:50 an hour, unless im in the states or somewhere where tipping is expected i would never tip someone just for doing their job competently
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it depends on where i am, if i was in the states i would always tip because i know most of the wait staff aren't earning under minimum wage, however if im back in Ireland i would only tip if the service was good because they earn at minimum €8:50 an hour, unless im in the states or somewhere where tipping is expected i would never tip someone just for doing their job competently
I agree with this. Moreover, I would never leave a note espousing my political or moral beliefs on a 3rd party who has absolutely nothing to do with my personal grievance. It's arrogant and speaks very poorly of the individual. Honestly, I've always held to the notion that a tip is for good service. If I'm treated well I'll leave a reasonable tip. If I'm treated poorly; I won't. Anything beyond that is simply rude.
If someone wants to make their own personal statement by not tipping, that's their right. There is no law mandating tipping and there is no law punishing non tippers. The server can find another job if they don't like it. If someone chooses to try and make a living based off of gratuities they need to realize not everyone will subscribe to that. Also, they need to be prepared that as the government tries to tighten the noose around it's citizen's financial necks, especially the citizen's with the disposable income to eat out regularly, this may become more common place. For me, if it gets to the point where I really need to monitor my spending the first place I will cut spending is tipping. I still get the same goods I want, but I have also spent less of my money at the same time.
All this tip talk made me think of the Seinfeld when George was trying to replace an answering machine tape, and his desist code to Jerry was "tippy toe!"
you are a fucking dork! I thought that but now YOU proved it! Stay home cheap ass
But I bet you sing the fair share song huh? You obama worshipers are so fucking wacked!
This "fair share" shit is so stupid....
If the fuckin government takes people's money they can't spend it....not on restaurants, tips, haircuts, yummy food, nothing.
Ok Otter here we go, ding ding.
1.no dork here
2.i will stay home thanks
3.not sure what the fair share song is
4. I'm not an Obama worshiper, I live in Canada
5. I don't tip, so fucking what
I was going to tell you to fuck yourself, but I won't. I am taking the high road for once.
That is a first. Thanks for not telling me to go fuck myself...but I think i will anyhow :thumbup:
If someone wants to make their own personal statement by not tipping, that's their right. There is no law mandating tipping and there is no law punishing non tippers. The server can find another job if they don't like it. If someone chooses to try and make a living based off of gratuities they need to realize not everyone will subscribe to that. Also, they need to be prepared that as the government tries to tighten the noose around it's citizen's financial necks, especially the citizen's with the disposable income to eat out regularly, this may become more common place. For me, if it gets to the point where I really need to monitor my spending the first place I will cut spending is tipping. I still get the same goods I want, but I have also spent less of my money at the same time.
Forget it, not even worth it.
Don't worry, he'll learn quickly to never go back for a second time to the places where he exercised his right to not tip. The people he doesn't tip will remember, and his food will have some extra spices, his beer some extra foam, and his tires some less tread.
If someone doesn't want to leave a tip, I say that sucks but so be it. As usual though here we have a conservative refusing to take any personal responsibility. Much easier to blame the big bad government than it is to own up to being a cheap SOB.
this is only another excuse for cheap ass mother fuckers to be the cheap ass mother fuckers that they already are
people that don't want to tip will not for what ever reason is convenient
people that have plenty of money and have no intention of tipping will knit-pick over the slightest thing or else make up a "did you see that look she just gave me" or "i don't like his attitude"
when restaurants had to raise prices because gas prices doubled
they did not announce "this is because of george fucking bush" so don't tip
bull-horning about this and the recommendation that the customers deflect this expense onto the servers is ridiculous
how are the back of house employees penalized
and god fucking forbid that management or owners take the slightest fucking hit
it's bullshit
If someone doesn't want to leave a tip, I say that sucks but so be it. As usual though here we have a conservative refusing to take any personal responsibility. Much easier to blame the big bad government than it is to own up to being a cheap SOB.
Plenty of democrats do that too..Look at the kid who was yelling at the elderly Jewish man during the occupy protests..whining about how he has no job and can't earn a living. He didn't have a job because he didn't want to start at $7 an hour and actually earn his way up (I'm not assuming, he said this)..So he's broke cos he won't even apply for the jobs..I'm no fan of the practices of big business, but come on man, I just wanted to smack the brat.
If someone doesn't want to leave a tip, I say that sucks but so be it. As usual though here we have a conservative refusing to take any personal responsibility. Much easier to blame the big bad government than it is to own up to being a cheap SOB.
Plenty of democrats do that too..Look at the kid who was yelling at the elderly Jewish man during the occupy protests..whining about how he has no job and can't earn a living. He didn't have a job because he didn't want to start at $7 an hour and actually earn his way up (I'm not assuming, he said this)..So he's broke cos he won't even apply for the jobs..I'm no fan of the practices of big business, but come on man, I just wanted to smack the brat.
So you are comparing the actions of a foolish child to the modern conservative movement and saying they are the same? I'm with you.
The kid is one example of many. Just like this right winger who didn't tip is just one example of many.
I'm an Independent..I think the left and the right are both chock full of retards.
The kid is one example of many. Just like this right winger who didn't tip is just one example of many.
I'm an Independent..I think the left and the right are both chock full of retards.
On this we agree. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...
If someone wants to make their own personal statement by not tipping, that's their right. There is no law mandating tipping and there is no law punishing non tippers. The server can find another job if they don't like it. If someone chooses to try and make a living based off of gratuities they need to realize not everyone will subscribe to that. Also, they need to be prepared that as the government tries to tighten the noose around it's citizen's financial necks, especially the citizen's with the disposable income to eat out regularly, this may become more common place. For me, if it gets to the point where I really need to monitor my spending the first place I will cut spending is tipping. I still get the same goods I want, but I have also spent less of my money at the same time.
Its not cutting costs. It is approaching stealing in my opinion. You know the deal when you walk into a restaurant with servers. I you don't want to tip go to McDonald's.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
The kid is one example of many. Just like this right winger who didn't tip is just one example of many.
I'm an Independent..I think the left and the right are both chock full of retards.
On this we agree. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...
i have enough money to eat a $30 steak but i have no cash to leave a tip until next payday...
DAMN YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
:fp:
why not get the fucking $25 steak and have some money left over, you know, just in case the server deserved a tip?
Because it's someone's right to buy a $30 steak. It's also their right to not have to tip. The server is always free to find employment somewhere else if they don't like it.
If someone wants to make their own personal statement by not tipping, that's their right. There is no law mandating tipping and there is no law punishing non tippers. The server can find another job if they don't like it. If someone chooses to try and make a living based off of gratuities they need to realize not everyone will subscribe to that. Also, they need to be prepared that as the government tries to tighten the noose around it's citizen's financial necks, especially the citizen's with the disposable income to eat out regularly, this may become more common place. For me, if it gets to the point where I really need to monitor my spending the first place I will cut spending is tipping. I still get the same goods I want, but I have also spent less of my money at the same time.
Forget it, not even worth it.
Don't worry, he'll learn quickly to never go back for a second time to the places where he exercised his right to not tip. The people he doesn't tip will remember, and his food will have some extra spices, his beer some extra foam, and his tires some less tread.
So you support people exercising violence against a person and crimes against property for not leaving a gratuity? Something no one is obligated to GIVE? :?
when restaurants had to raise prices because gas prices doubled
they did not announce "this is because of george fucking bush" so don't tip
False. I clearly remember reading signs in businesses stating their prices had increased due to increased shipping costs. Also, at the same time as a free consumer, I had the right to still purchase those products or not and the right to leave a gratuity or not.
Don't worry, he'll learn quickly to never go back for a second time to the places where he exercised his right to not tip. The people he doesn't tip will remember, and his food will have some extra spices, his beer some extra foam, and his tires some less tread.
So you support people exercising violence against a person and crimes against property for not leaving a gratuity? Something no one is obligated to GIVE? :?
No, I think he is supporting your future servers going the extra mile and adding some bodily fluids to your soup.
Note to self: When in the greater Albany area do not make dinner plans with DS1119.
when restaurants had to raise prices because gas prices doubled
they did not announce "this is because of george fucking bush" so don't tip
False. I clearly remember reading signs in businesses stating their prices had increased due to increased shipping costs. Also, at the same time as a free consumer, I had the right to still purchase those products or not and the right to leave a gratuity or not.
Man you struggle, don't you?
Increased shipping costs are related to gas prices. Do you think shipping means just boats?
And not tipping means you are cheap. Period. Can't stand going out with people that are okay with stiffing the waiter or waitress- means I have to double up so I don't look like an ass. I never go out with those people again.
Cheap. Period.
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a friend and i once tipped a penny...it was a penny more than they deserved.
If someone wants to make their own personal statement by not tipping, that's their right. There is no law mandating tipping and there is no law punishing non tippers. The server can find another job if they don't like it. If someone chooses to try and make a living based off of gratuities they need to realize not everyone will subscribe to that. Also, they need to be prepared that as the government tries to tighten the noose around it's citizen's financial necks, especially the citizen's with the disposable income to eat out regularly, this may become more common place. For me, if it gets to the point where I really need to monitor my spending the first place I will cut spending is tipping. I still get the same goods I want, but I have also spent less of my money at the same time.
Don't worry, he'll learn quickly to never go back for a second time to the places where he exercised his right to not tip. The people he doesn't tip will remember, and his food will have some extra spices, his beer some extra foam, and his tires some less tread.
So you support people exercising violence against a person and crimes against property for not leaving a gratuity? Something no one is obligated to GIVE? :?
wtf are you talking about? violence? are you drunk? I never said that. :? :roll:
My point is, if you frequent a place where people depend on tips to live their lives, pay their rent, feed their children and themselves, and you decide to "exercise your right" and have them wait on you and do the work, and you DOT NOT tip, your you can expect the services and welcome at these places to suffer if you go back regularly. Its in poor taste to do this regularly when YOU have to choice to not go to these places. Like someone else said, if you're in a position where you need to eat but cannot tip, go to McDonalds, or better yet, cook for yourself, dont dick over people who depend on tips to survive. If you go out to eat and cannot tip (especially when someone like a waiter/waitress does their job), you are being selfish and arrogant.
If you dont tip, I doubt YOU will want to go back to these establishments regularly. You simply wont get service, or you'll get crappy service, rightfully so..
a trivia tidbit.
TIPS is an acronym. "To Ensure Prompt Serivce", commonly given to the maitre' d upon arrival.
Gone now are Maitre' D's (in the places I can afford anyway) so it's the server who is hired to work toward the same goal.
Also, In America, standard tipping guidlines are now closer to 20%. Yikes!
And yes, leaving a penny is a snub and gets your point across but to leave nothing reflects on the "tightwad" -- not on the poor service you might of had.
Only jerks leave note-tips, i.e. "wear clothes to cover your fat belly & you'll get more tips."
Probably true but coming from a guy who clearly doesn't own a toothbrush simply provides that days running joke.
a trivia tidbit.
TIPS is an acronym. "To Ensure Prompt Serivce", commonly given to the maitre' d upon arrival.
Gone now are Maitre' D's (in the places I can afford anyway) so it's the server who is hired to work toward the same goal.
Also, In America, standard tipping guidlines are now closer to 20%. Yikes!
And yes, leaving a penny is a snub and gets your point across but to leave nothing reflects on the "tightwad" -- not on the poor service you might of had.
Only jerks leave note-tips, i.e. "wear clothes to cover your fat belly & you'll get more tips."
Probably true but coming from a guy who clearly doesn't own a toothbrush simply provides that days running joke.
Interesting, I never knew that acronym..
My Dad took us out to dinner last night and I think he tipped like 15%. the server was an older woman who was good and prompt. My dads an old geezer and just isnt with the times, so I snuck a $5 onto the table as we left.
This guy is a shit and and could get fucked. Anyone who doesn't leave a tip for service they receive should go fuck themselves and is a scumbag. If it is THAT bad the perhaps something is warranted but I would suggest talking to someone first.
This is people making a living for themselves and doing a service for you so you can be served your food and enjoy your time out.
People who don't tip in the US are scumbags. Period. People making a point out of it are the worst kind of human. I wish very bad things on that person.
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DAMN YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
:fp:
why not get the fucking $25 steak and have some money left over, you know, just in case the server deserved a tip?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I agree with this. Moreover, I would never leave a note espousing my political or moral beliefs on a 3rd party who has absolutely nothing to do with my personal grievance. It's arrogant and speaks very poorly of the individual. Honestly, I've always held to the notion that a tip is for good service. If I'm treated well I'll leave a reasonable tip. If I'm treated poorly; I won't. Anything beyond that is simply rude.
Anyone who does what this yahoo did is clearly an ass.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Forget it, not even worth it.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
That is a first. Thanks for not telling me to go fuck myself...but I think i will anyhow :thumbup:
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
people that don't want to tip will not for what ever reason is convenient
people that have plenty of money and have no intention of tipping will knit-pick over the slightest thing or else make up a "did you see that look she just gave me" or "i don't like his attitude"
when restaurants had to raise prices because gas prices doubled
they did not announce "this is because of george fucking bush" so don't tip
bull-horning about this and the recommendation that the customers deflect this expense onto the servers is ridiculous
how are the back of house employees penalized
and god fucking forbid that management or owners take the slightest fucking hit
it's bullshit
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
Plenty of democrats do that too..Look at the kid who was yelling at the elderly Jewish man during the occupy protests..whining about how he has no job and can't earn a living. He didn't have a job because he didn't want to start at $7 an hour and actually earn his way up (I'm not assuming, he said this)..So he's broke cos he won't even apply for the jobs..I'm no fan of the practices of big business, but come on man, I just wanted to smack the brat.
So you are comparing the actions of a foolish child to the modern conservative movement and saying they are the same? I'm with you.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I'm an Independent..I think the left and the right are both chock full of retards.
On this we agree. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Its not cutting costs. It is approaching stealing in my opinion. You know the deal when you walk into a restaurant with servers. I you don't want to tip go to McDonald's.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
Because it's someone's right to buy a $30 steak. It's also their right to not have to tip. The server is always free to find employment somewhere else if they don't like it.
So you support people exercising violence against a person and crimes against property for not leaving a gratuity? Something no one is obligated to GIVE? :?
False. I clearly remember reading signs in businesses stating their prices had increased due to increased shipping costs. Also, at the same time as a free consumer, I had the right to still purchase those products or not and the right to leave a gratuity or not.
No, I think he is supporting your future servers going the extra mile and adding some bodily fluids to your soup.
Note to self: When in the greater Albany area do not make dinner plans with DS1119.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Man you struggle, don't you?
Increased shipping costs are related to gas prices. Do you think shipping means just boats?
And not tipping means you are cheap. Period. Can't stand going out with people that are okay with stiffing the waiter or waitress- means I have to double up so I don't look like an ass. I never go out with those people again.
Cheap. Period.
that's a pretty shitty note.
wtf are you talking about? violence? are you drunk? I never said that. :? :roll:
My point is, if you frequent a place where people depend on tips to live their lives, pay their rent, feed their children and themselves, and you decide to "exercise your right" and have them wait on you and do the work, and you DOT NOT tip, your you can expect the services and welcome at these places to suffer if you go back regularly. Its in poor taste to do this regularly when YOU have to choice to not go to these places. Like someone else said, if you're in a position where you need to eat but cannot tip, go to McDonalds, or better yet, cook for yourself, dont dick over people who depend on tips to survive. If you go out to eat and cannot tip (especially when someone like a waiter/waitress does their job), you are being selfish and arrogant.
If you dont tip, I doubt YOU will want to go back to these establishments regularly. You simply wont get service, or you'll get crappy service, rightfully so..
TIPS is an acronym. "To Ensure Prompt Serivce", commonly given to the maitre' d upon arrival.
Gone now are Maitre' D's (in the places I can afford anyway) so it's the server who is hired to work toward the same goal.
Also, In America, standard tipping guidlines are now closer to 20%. Yikes!
And yes, leaving a penny is a snub and gets your point across but to leave nothing reflects on the "tightwad" -- not on the poor service you might of had.
Only jerks leave note-tips, i.e. "wear clothes to cover your fat belly & you'll get more tips."
Probably true but coming from a guy who clearly doesn't own a toothbrush simply provides that days running joke.
Interesting, I never knew that acronym..
My Dad took us out to dinner last night and I think he tipped like 15%. the server was an older woman who was good and prompt. My dads an old geezer and just isnt with the times, so I snuck a $5 onto the table as we left.
This is people making a living for themselves and doing a service for you so you can be served your food and enjoy your time out.
People who don't tip in the US are scumbags. Period. People making a point out of it are the worst kind of human. I wish very bad things on that person.