Too cheap to tip? Blame Obama!

JimmyV

So pathetic. This yahoo had the cash to eat out, just not to tip. And it is the President's fault.


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LIBERTY!

cincybearcat

I do wonder, when did tips become a mandatory thing instead of just for good service above and beyond?

I've always tipped and never really thought about it much, but I wonder how the evolution of the tip went.

JimmyV

I think they are more expected than mandatory. We do still have the option to leave nothing, but the expectation is always that we will leave something. I admit, I find it hard to leave nothing even if the service has been bad. I am a sucker for a cute bartender.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

cincybearcat wrote:

I do wonder, when did tips become a mandatory thing instead of just for good service above and beyond?

I've always tipped and never really thought about it much, but I wonder how the evolution of the tip went.

I was once a cook. I found it insulting that I got a mere 10% of the wait staff's tips, and that was also on the honour system. If I made an awesome meal, and she was in a bad mood and got no tip, I still got nothing.

If the waitress is great, but the meal sucked, I'll still give a tip knowing the waitress gets most of it anyway.

If the food was great and the wait staff sucked, I'll ask for the manager and give it to them to give to the cook.

If both sucked I leave nothing. A tip is for exceptional food and exceptional service. Not just doing the minimum.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

JimmyV wrote:

So pathetic. This yahoo had the cash to eat out, just not to tip. And it is the President's fault.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/0 ... Weird+News

LIBERTY!

so eating out is not considered discretionary spending? what a maroon.

MotoDC

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I do wonder, when did tips become a mandatory thing instead of just for good service above and beyond?

I've always tipped and never really thought about it much, but I wonder how the evolution of the tip went.

I was once a cook. I found it insulting that I got a mere 10% of the wait staff's tips, and that was also on the honour system. If I made an awesome meal, and she was in a bad mood and got no tip, I still got nothing.

If the waitress is great, but the meal sucked, I'll still give a tip knowing the waitress gets most of it anyway.

If the food was great and the wait staff sucked, I'll ask for the manager and give it to them to give to the cook.

If both sucked I leave nothing. A tip is for exceptional food and exceptional service. Not just doing the minimum.

Thanks for the insight from the inside. You've really left no tip before? Don't think I could do that unless the server was unimaginably rude or combative and the food was unpalatable.

JimmyV

The only time I can recall leaving nothing was in Montreal a few years ago. The waiter, who had been AWFUL, actually approached and complained that I had not left him enough! I asked for it back and left. Still burns me all these years later.

I did not, of course, try to blame George W. Bush.

dimitrispearljam

lame

EdsonNascimento

JimmyV wrote:

I think they are more expected than mandatory. We do still have the option to leave nothing, but the expectation is always that we will leave something. I admit, I find it hard to leave nothing even if the service has been bad. I am a sucker for a cute bartender.

Agreed. And when you realize waiters/waitresses are paid very low wages - legally below minimum wages in some cases - with the expectation of tips to "fill the jar," it's even clearer.

However, I don't think anyone would say if you have terrible service you CAN'T NOT (yes, double negative) leave a tip. Though, the better thing to do is leave a buck (never done this myself as the tip is for more than JUST the waiter, but the logic is the message is clearer that you didn't simply forget, you are grading the service). My answer to poor service is never go to that place again. That I have done.

hedonist

I figure if I can't (not won't) tip, I probably won't partake of the service. However, good point cincy made on it being a given these days.

By the way, just had some groceries delivered including several heavy items - these folks always get a healthy tip from us.

(plus, being nice goes a long way)

Hugh Freaking Dillon

MotoDC wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I do wonder, when did tips become a mandatory thing instead of just for good service above and beyond?

I've always tipped and never really thought about it much, but I wonder how the evolution of the tip went.

I was once a cook. I found it insulting that I got a mere 10% of the wait staff's tips, and that was also on the honour system. If I made an awesome meal, and she was in a bad mood and got no tip, I still got nothing.

If the waitress is great, but the meal sucked, I'll still give a tip knowing the waitress gets most of it anyway.

If the food was great and the wait staff sucked, I'll ask for the manager and give it to them to give to the cook.

If both sucked I leave nothing. A tip is for exceptional food and exceptional service. Not just doing the minimum.

Thanks for the insight from the inside. You've really left no tip before? Don't think I could do that unless the server was unimaginably rude or combative and the food was unpalatable.

I tip the usual 15% if the service and food is good. But yes, I've left no tip before. Why would you give someone a bonus when they aren't doing their job? it doesn't happen in any other field of work, why would this one be the exception?

Once the service was SO bad (and rude-if it's just bad, I take into account how busy it is, how the cooks might be slow, maybe they are short staffed and it's not her fault, etc) I left a penny. I know waitresses take that as a HUGE insult, and I wanted to get the message across.

MotoDC

HFD wrote:

Why would you give someone a bonus when they aren't doing their job? it doesn't happen in any other field of work, why would this one be the exception?

Haha, I have no idea. I just can't help it. Liberal guilt? Look I was sorta able to blame Obama! Hooray to me for staying on topic.

JimmyV

I see bankrupt corporations paying about bonuses to upper management all the time. It does seem to happen in those industries.

EdsonNascimento

JimmyV wrote:

I see bankrupt corporations paying about bonuses to upper management all the time. It does seem to happen in those industries.

Jack Lew's million dollar bonus comes to mind. See? I kept it on topic, too.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

JimmyV wrote:

I see bankrupt corporations paying about bonuses to upper management all the time. It does seem to happen in those industries.

but I'm not an idiot corporation that pats people on the back for failing.

Flutter Girl

I've only not tipped once..I didn't pay at all..Just walked out. The place was dead, there were only 5 customers (should have been a warning), and there were at least that many waiters, yet we sat for 20 minutes just waiting to get a menu..when the food did finally get out there after about 45 minutes, it was terrible like it had been under a heat lamp for hours..The waitress was rude to top it off. We didn't eat so I told the manager flatly, I'm not paying for this, it's terrible, and we walked out..He didn't even contest it..he knew I was right. I honestly don't know how that place is still open.

push me and i will resist

I do not tip, not ever.

aerial

I always tip...but have you noticed everyone has a tip jar now, cashiers, food stands, etc. I don't tip unless I am being served food.

comebackgirl

I think servers are only paid a little over $2/hour so I always tip...it's pretty much a part of their salary. I tip for other services (hair stylist, furniture delivery, food delivery, housekeeping at a hotel, etc). I don't usually tip in those tip jars at Starbucks, etc unless I've asked for a complicated kind of drink.

push me and i will resist

aerial wrote:

I always tip...but have you noticed everyone has a tip jar now, cashiers, food stands, etc. I don't tip unless I am being served food.

So you tip at a macdonalds or Arby's? They are serving you food just the same
What if you order a pizza but go and pick it up? Do you tip there or only of they deliver, on top of their delivery charge

aerial

push me and i will resist wrote:

aerial wrote:

I always tip...but have you noticed everyone has a tip jar now, cashiers, food stands, etc. I don't tip unless I am being served food.

So you tip at a macdonalds or Arby's? They are serving you food just the same
What if you order a pizza but go and pick it up? Do you tip there or only of they deliver, on top of their delivery charge

I do tip any delivery because they mainly work for tips....I do not tip if I order and stand there and they hand it to me in a bag....when I am at a table and served I tip always even if the service is bad .I tip very well if service is what is expected or great..