No ma'am, I won't register my guns

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?


    Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.
  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    unsung wrote:
    Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?


    Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.

    What the are you talking about? Who said, implied or even thought that?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626
    unsung wrote:
    Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?


    Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.

    No i'm just pointing out the fact that here in the USA you can get any weapon any time anywhere no matter who you are as easy as going shopping for food ...
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    josevolution wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Amazing. They didn't have a license. That's what we should worry about?


    Yes, by having a license would have prevented this, and nobody would have died. Utter ridiculousness.

    No i'm just pointing out the fact that here in the USA you can get any weapon any time anywhere no matter who you are as easy as going shopping for food ...

    I think that is a bit of a stretch. It is way too easy though.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    They probably went to Chicago.

    *** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.
  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    unsung wrote:
    They probably went to Chicago.

    *** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.

    Why do even bother having them, right?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626
    unsung wrote:
    They probably went to Chicago.

    *** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.

    Ok so now what yeah no kidding , so should we still just let anybody buy any weapon they so desire can we at least make it a bit tougher to buy weapons then it is to buy hotdogs :oops:
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    C'mon you know that's not happening.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    unsung wrote:
    They probably went to Chicago.

    *** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.

    I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".

    all you get on that one is crickets.
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    They probably went to Chicago.

    *** NEWSFLASH *** Criminals don't follow laws.

    I always find this response comical. then you see these same people calling for tougher drug laws and such, and you ask them "if criminals don't follow laws, why have any?".

    all you get on that one is crickets.[/quote

    Yep. If you follow their line of logic then we should make heroin legal since it is illegal and people still get their hands on it. Then again bringing logic into this conversation flies in the face of all of their beliefs on it.
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  • catefrances
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    pandora wrote:
    But now that you mention fear, honestly for me, those who choose not to own a gun
    seem afraid to me.Those that must rely on others for protection.


    you think a gun is the ONLY way to protect yourself? talk about a deluded comment. :roll:
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    catefrances wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    But now that you mention fear, honestly for me, those who choose not to own a gun
    seem afraid to me.Those that must rely on others for protection.


    you think a gun is the ONLY way to protect yourself? talk about a deluded comment. :roll:

    not to mention she just recently got one for herself. all of a sudden she's talking down to the group she was a part of for 157 years.

    it is utterly STUPID for anyone to suggest that NOT owning a gun makes you fearful. :fp:
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

    it is utterly STUPID for anyone to suggest that NOT owning a gun makes you fearful. :fp:

    :clap:
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Guns don't make you safe and another legally purchased gun in the hands of a criminal.

    http://www.click2houston.com/news/Cafe- ... index.html

    LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.

    Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.

    Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.

    The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    callen wrote:
    Guns don't make you safe and another legally purchased gun in the hands of a criminal.

    http://www.click2houston.com/news/Cafe- ... index.html

    LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.

    Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.

    Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.

    The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.

    In many cases guns will not matter because of the element of surprise. I know that in many cases having a gun does work, but many cases a gun will not make a difference.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Guitar92player wrote:
    callen wrote:
    Guns don't make you safe and another legally purchased gun in the hands of a criminal.

    http://www.click2houston.com/news/Cafe- ... index.html

    LIBERTY COUNTY, Texas - A restaurant owner was robbed as she tried to open her café for the day.

    Liberty County sheriff's deputies said the owner of Red's Cafe, 16598 F.M. 146 North, was attacked about 5:35 a.m. on Monday.

    Detectives said a man threw the owner to the ground and stole her purse.

    The man got away with the owner's cash and her gun, investigators said.

    In many cases guns will not matter because of the element of surprise. I know that in many cases having a gun does work, but many cases a gun will not make a difference.

    Now to find stats to see which is safer.

    Used to think if theres one gun there may not be violence, the robber will get what they want and go. If there are two guns someone will get shot. As such I don't have a gun, live in big city and feel safe.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    FEDERAL WAY, Wash. - A man fatally shot his live-in girlfriend at an apartment south of Seattle and then killed three others, including a 62-year-old neighbour who told others to call the police emergency dispatcher and retreated inside his unit before the gunman broke down the door with a shotgun and opened fire, authorities said.

    The 27-year-old suspect was later shot and killed in a parking lot by responding officers.

    "We believe this is a domestic-violence homicide," Federal Way Police Chief Brian Wilson said at a news conference.

    Wilson said investigators believe the shooter may also have been trying to kill witnesses, KOMO-TV reported.

    Police encountered a chaotic situation in Federal Way on Sunday night when they responded to reports of gunshots.

    The suspect confronted arriving officers with a shotgun in a stairwell then fled to the parking lot after officers fired at him, Wilson said.

    He was killed on the ground while reaching for a handgun, Wilson said.

    "This is one of the most dangerous ... calls for law enforcement to respond to," Wilson said of the active shooter situation.

    A King County medical examiner's spokeswoman said Monday that the identities of the dead were not expected to be released until Tuesday afternoon.

    Wilson said the victims included the suspect's 25-year-old girlfriend, and three men, including the 62-year-old neighbour. The other men were 24 and 46.

    Police were still piecing together information but believe the suspect shot his girlfriend in their apartment, then killed the two younger men after he left the unit.

    Wilson said the 62-year-old man heard the commotion from another apartment, went outside to investigate and urged others to call authorities. The man returned to his residence before he was shot and killed, the chief said.

    Police said the gunman used the shotgun to fire on the man's door to gain entry. It did not appear that the older man knew the shooter, police said.

    Authorities received the first reports of suspicious circumstances about 9:35 p.m. Sunday.

    "When officers arrived there were still shots being fired," said police spokeswoman Cathy Schrock.

    Officers swarmed and searched the large apartment complex off Interstate 5 before saying they were confident there were no more casualties.

    By dawn, a medical examiner's office truck had arrived to pick up bodies while crime scene investigators kept working. One officer was seen carrying books and a gun to what appeared to be an evidence van.

    A total of eight officers fired their weapons, Schrock said. All have been placed on administrative leave, which is standard policy in such situations, as the investigation continues.

    Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.

    Both incidents were verbal in nature and no arrests were made, Wilson said.

    Federal Way is about 20 miles (32 kilometres) south of Seattle.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

    Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.

    and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

    Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.

    and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.

    Get ready for the usual barrage of garbage. There is no common sense on the part of the people you appeal to. I mean... seriously... look at the stuff we are forced to read that is presented as rebuttal to such arguments.
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  • RustyShackelford
    RustyShackelford Posts: 127
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

    Wilson said the suspect, who had a valid concealed weapons permit, had no criminal history. However, he had been involved in two prior domestic violence calls in Federal Way and Seattle, Wilson said.

    and there's your good reason for fucking background checks.

    There already are fucking background checks

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