Oh hollllly shit, can't wait for the WIP callers to start if they haven't already.
Lol. I can only imagine.
So hardly anyone played again last night. No point in watching. I don't understand how you don't get a qb like Jalen Hurts reps in preseason games. He's not Aaron Rogers. This season is essentially his try out. Why not play him a little before the games count for real? There is definitely value in these joint scrimmages, but I think the first few weeks of the season are going to be sloppier than usual, especially with one less game. They've already been getting sloppier and sloppier the last few years.
I think the quality of the game, in general, has deteriorated over the last 10 years since that cba that ended the strike. I think it was 2011 or something. They're trying to protect players' safety with the new rules and stuff but I think it's done more harm than good to the actual game. There are hardly any offseason workouts anymore. Definitely no hitting in the offseason. Training camp is a shell of what it used to be both in terms of the practice durations and intensity/hitting. You'd think with the emphasize on "safer" ways to tackle, you'd spend more time getting more reps to get used to it before the season starts to hopefully avoid a bunch of 15 yard personal foul penalties that now seem inevitable.
The combination of all the rule changes and the practice restrictions mixed with the ultra conservative approach teams take nowadays might be keeping players a little more healthy but, to me, what they're losing in terms of quality outweighs keeping a few more guys on the field.
Yea 9 plays in a press-season game is really going to help, keep believing preseason games are important. Every year you say this and every year the risk reward doesn’t change. Playing key players in pre-season games is dumb
I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?
The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays.
I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?
The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays.
Totally agree but 2 or 3 extra preseason series I don't think will help, especially as they are purposely not showing anything interesting they're planning on doing.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
These guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line.
I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it if they got rid of the pads and helmets.
There guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line.
I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it they got rid of the pads and helmets.
There's a school of thought that it would be safer without helmets & pads, which make the players feel superhuman.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
There guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line.
I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it they got rid of the pads and helmets.
There's a school of thought that it would be safer without helmets & pads, which make the players feel superhuman.
Exactly where I land with it. You'd have less reason to use your body/head as a missile if you take all that shit away.
I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?
The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays.
Totally agree but 2 or 3 extra preseason series I don't think will help, especially as they are purposely not showing anything interesting they're planning on doing.
Not talking just a few series. Used to be, starters played a few series in the first game, the first quarter in the second game and the entire first half plus, sometimes, a bit into the 3rd quarter in the third game. They treated the third games as a dress rehearsal for the season. This was common up until the last decade or so. I don't think it is a coincidence that the quality of play has declined during that timeframe.
Colts place QB Carson Wentz, 2 others on reserve/COVID-19 list
Indianapolis Colts quarterback Carson Wentz, who recently returned from foot surgery, has been placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list. Center Ryan Kelly and wide receiver Zach Pascal were also placed on the list.
The team did not reveal why they were placed on the list. Unvaccinated players can be placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list if they've been deemed a close contact of someone who has tested positive, or if they've tested positive themselves. Vaccinated players are only placed on the list if they've tested positive.
Wentz has declined to say whether or not he's vaccinated, and neither Pascal or Kelly are on the record about their vaccination status. If they're unvaccinated close contacts, which is the best case scenario, then they'll return on Monday, presuming that their tests come back negative every day until then. But if they've tested positive, they'll be out for nearly two weeks.
Could Wentz's Week 1 start be in danger?
The Colts haven't definitively said that Wentz will start Week 1, but after practicing last week for the first time since his early August foot surgery, it's certainly been trending that way. Especially since Sam Ehlinger, their backup QB, will be out 5-6 weeks with a sprained knee.
But Wentz's placement on the reserve/COVID-19 list could put that in jeopardy. Here are the three scenarios for Wentz's return to camp.
If Wentz is vaccinated and tested positive, then he can come back as soon as he's asymptomatic and he's had two negative tests 24 hours apart. That could be in as little as a few days.
If Wentz is unvaccinated and is a close contact of someone who tested positive, he needs five days of negative tests before he can reenter the facility. He would be back for practice early next week if all of his tests come back negative.
If Wentz is unvaccinated and tested positive, then he must isolate for 10 days at minimum. He wouldn't be able to return to practice until late next week, just a few days before the Colts' Week 1 game.
Wentz's practice time dwindles as each option goes on. If he's unvaccinated, he could have anywhere from four days of practice before Week 1 to close to zero. That's not the best way for a still-healing quarterback to go into his first game for a new team. But even though Wentz will almost certainly miss this week practice at the very least, Colts head coach Frank Reich doesn't have a lot of options. With Ehlinger out of commission, Wentz may still be his best bet.
Again, if he misses time due to Covid and that shit is against his snaps for our future pick I blame Howie. That shit should be worthy of an appeal with the league or something.
I'm pretty sure it's time to stop dreaming of Carson Wentz turning into a 2022 first rounder folks.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I'm pretty sure it's time to stop dreaming of Carson Wentz turning into a 2022 first rounder folks.
Yup, between being unvaccinated and piling up injuries it would be more surprising if they end up with a 1st rounder than not. I'm waiting for one of these teams to start getting tough on these unvaccinated morons. I know there are rules with the CBA's and stuff but fuck these idiots. I'd be pissed if I was an owner at these morons.
I'm pretty sure it's time to stop dreaming of Carson Wentz turning into a 2022 first rounder folks.
Yup, between being unvaccinated and piling up injuries it would be more surprising if they end up with a 1st rounder than not. I'm waiting for one of these teams to start getting tough on these unvaccinated morons. I know there are rules with the CBA's and stuff but fuck these idiots. I'd be pissed if I was an owner at these morons.
I'm guessing the Delta Airlines idea of $200 surcharge on health insurance won't do the trick.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Gameday, Go Birds! Not sure how this game and season is going to go....
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
very solid start to the season. Offense, defense and special teams. Only downfall I saw was too many penalties.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
very solid start to the season. Offense, defense and special teams. Only downfall I saw was too many penalties.
For sure. And a lot of them came from the veteran offensive line so expect that will be cleaned up. Not easy to blow teams out in NFL. Impressive 1st game. Plus everyone else in division lost.
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This was the game I watched yesterday....up in VT and the Giants and Pats were both playing late (that is who they usually show here) so it was that or Steelers/Bills and I wanted to see how Hurts did. He was really good. Not sure if the ATL defense is terrible or if it was a flash, but he looked strong.
So tough to tell in the first few weeks what is what.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it if they got rid of the pads and helmets.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-colts-place-qb-carson-wentz-2-others-on-reserve-covid-19-list-172351110.html
Colts place QB Carson Wentz, 2 others on reserve/COVID-19 list
Indianapolis Colts quarterback Carson Wentz, who recently returned from foot surgery, has been placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list. Center Ryan Kelly and wide receiver Zach Pascal were also placed on the list.
The team did not reveal why they were placed on the list. Unvaccinated players can be placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list if they've been deemed a close contact of someone who has tested positive, or if they've tested positive themselves. Vaccinated players are only placed on the list if they've tested positive.
Wentz has declined to say whether or not he's vaccinated, and neither Pascal or Kelly are on the record about their vaccination status. If they're unvaccinated close contacts, which is the best case scenario, then they'll return on Monday, presuming that their tests come back negative every day until then. But if they've tested positive, they'll be out for nearly two weeks.
Could Wentz's Week 1 start be in danger?
The Colts haven't definitively said that Wentz will start Week 1, but after practicing last week for the first time since his early August foot surgery, it's certainly been trending that way. Especially since Sam Ehlinger, their backup QB, will be out 5-6 weeks with a sprained knee.
But Wentz's placement on the reserve/COVID-19 list could put that in jeopardy. Here are the three scenarios for Wentz's return to camp.
If Wentz is vaccinated and tested positive, then he can come back as soon as he's asymptomatic and he's had two negative tests 24 hours apart. That could be in as little as a few days.
If Wentz is unvaccinated and is a close contact of someone who tested positive, he needs five days of negative tests before he can reenter the facility. He would be back for practice early next week if all of his tests come back negative.
If Wentz is unvaccinated and tested positive, then he must isolate for 10 days at minimum. He wouldn't be able to return to practice until late next week, just a few days before the Colts' Week 1 game.
Wentz's practice time dwindles as each option goes on. If he's unvaccinated, he could have anywhere from four days of practice before Week 1 to close to zero. That's not the best way for a still-healing quarterback to go into his first game for a new team. But even though Wentz will almost certainly miss this week practice at the very least, Colts head coach Frank Reich doesn't have a lot of options. With Ehlinger out of commission, Wentz may still be his best bet.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
He was really good. Not sure if the ATL defense is terrible or if it was a flash, but he looked strong.
So tough to tell in the first few weeks what is what.
Gotta love a BALDY BREAKDOWN
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Met one of your coaches the other day. Lives around the corner from me and knows one of our neighbors we're friends with. Alex Tanney...nice guy.