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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    edited January 2021
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Watson had possibly the #1 receiver in the league traded away from him, and he still excelled. Wentz did not do this. This isn't hard to understand. This is like Wentz's season last year where he put up 4k yards without one WR going over 500  yards. There's no hypocrisy in that. Hell, Wentz was allowed the autonomy to call plays on the field and audible out of anything. I just don't feel the need to defend defend defend like he's my son or some shit. Hypocrisy, and the irony here, is to keep talking shit about the very fanbase you belong to for eating their own when this is the very thing you consistently do.

    Wentz is a dick for thinking he has any leverage in this situation. If I were him would I want out? Absolutely. But guess what? Ride that bench, baby, and compete for the starting job next year or we (the organization) will do what we please with you, Mr. I Just Got Paid A Shit Load of Money. 

    Watson is still performing. I don't blame him for wanting out, if that's the case. Not so as much with Neck Acne.
    You literally just proved my points about the two QBs and the Eagles fan base. Well done sir.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
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    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
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  • Jearlpam0925
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    edited January 2021
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
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    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
    Are you fucking serious? That is one stat that's still 16 players ahead of your boy. And I have repeatedly used many stats to illustrate how bad Wentz has been this year. Including all of these.

    Watson's ranks:
    3rd in comp %
    7th in tds
    1st in yards
    2nd in rating

    I could go on. And this was done with a crappy team...similar to the one you excused Wentz for until that argument was laughably too late in the season to use. 

    You really should stop talking about this sport. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
    Are you fucking serious? That is one stat.

    3rd in comp %
    7th in tds
    1st in yards
    2nd in rating

    You really should stop talking about this sport. 
    Change the stats that fit your argument. Got it.  Watson is very good. Wentz was before this year.  Will be interesting to see their trajectories moving forward. 




  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
    Are you fucking serious? That is one stat.

    3rd in comp %
    7th in tds
    1st in yards
    2nd in rating

    You really should stop talking about this sport. 
    Change the stats that fit your argument. Got it.  Watson is very good. Wentz was before this year.  Will be interesting to see their trajectories moving forward. 




    No. Just use the same ones all the time. Since you're bringing them up. Here is where you boy ranks:
    34th in comp %
    22nd in td's
    24th in td% (better indication since he was benched and missed games)
    25th in yds
    33rd in yds/attempt (using since he was benched)
    34th in rating
    28th in qbr (!)

    I will give Carson Wentz credit for leading the league in on stat, incredibly despite missing 4 games...INTERCEPTIONS!

    You're a clown, hawks. Beat it. 

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
    Are you fucking serious? That is one stat.

    3rd in comp %
    7th in tds
    1st in yards
    2nd in rating

    You really should stop talking about this sport. 
    Change the stats that fit your argument. Got it.  Watson is very good. Wentz was before this year.  Will be interesting to see their trajectories moving forward. 




    No. Just use the same ones all the time. Since you're bringing them up. Here is where you boy ranks:
    34th in comp %
    22nd in td's
    24th in td% (better indication since he was benched and missed games)
    25th in yds
    33rd in yds/attempt (using since he was benched)
    34th in rating
    28th in qbr (!)

    I will give Carson Wentz credit for leading the league in on stat, incredibly despite missing 4 games...INTERCEPTIONS!

    You're a clown, hawks. Beat it. 
    I just hope when Wentz is somewhere else he doesn’t prove you wrong as much as Andy Reid has.  Of course you thought the Patriots won because of Steven Ridley instead of Tom Brady a few years ago so why do I expect any level is sanity,  Oh in case you weren’t sure Bellicheck still has a losing record Pre and Post Brady,  It was Brady
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

     The fact that it is easier for the Texans to trade one of the best qb's in the league than it is for the Eagle to trade one of the worst is an indictment on Wentz's contract alone. 

    I personally don't give a shit about Wentz being a dick or not. 

    Oh and...."most likely" you would make that trade?!?!  HAHAHAHAHA
    Watson was 12th in QBR.  You know the stat you have used repeatedly for Wentz and others.  12th is not exactly one of the best

    I guess you are over Hurts being the QB now and for the future huh?
    Are you fucking serious? That is one stat.

    3rd in comp %
    7th in tds
    1st in yards
    2nd in rating

    You really should stop talking about this sport. 
    Change the stats that fit your argument. Got it.  Watson is very good. Wentz was before this year.  Will be interesting to see their trajectories moving forward. 




    No. Just use the same ones all the time. Since you're bringing them up. Here is where you boy ranks:
    34th in comp %
    22nd in td's
    24th in td% (better indication since he was benched and missed games)
    25th in yds
    33rd in yds/attempt (using since he was benched)
    34th in rating
    28th in qbr (!)

    I will give Carson Wentz credit for leading the league in on stat, incredibly despite missing 4 games...INTERCEPTIONS!

    You're a clown, hawks. Beat it. 
    I just hope when Wentz is somewhere else he doesn’t prove you wrong as much as Andy Reid has.  Of course you thought the Patriots won because of Steven Ridley instead of Tom Brady a few years ago so why do I expect any level is sanity,  Oh in case you weren’t sure Bellicheck still has a losing record Pre and Post Brady,  It was Brady
    aaaaaaaaaaaaand scene. pjhottakes has inevitably lost yet another sports argument. 


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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

      as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

     
    There is zero chance Houston would trade Watson for Wentz straight up.
    Like I said above, Wentz and 2 first rounders would be the starting point of negotiations.
    There's already talk of possibly 3 or 4 first rounders being considered by a couple teams as offers.

    However as I also stated above, I don't think Houston trades him unless he absolutely refuses to play for them ever again (i.e. threatens retirement).
    Caserio will consult him regarding the next HC and things will get smoothed over.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million


    can juggler crunch mortgages....or whatever the fuck he does....like he crunches cap space?

    doubt it.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million


    can juggler crunch mortgages....or whatever the fuck he does....like he crunches cap space?

    doubt it.
    Lol...I'm gonna crunch your face next!
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Yo so thank god Doug might actually be out.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Yo so thank god Doug might actually be out.
    It’s probably Wentz or Pederson and looks like gonna be Pederson out.  So that only gets one guy Eagles fans want out actually out.  
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    I think Pederson is the right choice to get shit canned. They committed too much to wentz 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    He deserves it for mismanagement of his running back.  
    Would hate to think they do it to pacify Harry, though.  
    Turn the page already.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    edited January 2021
    Haha, F Me - your problem with Sanders is strictly because he was on your fantasy roster right?

    I've said from the beginning - Wentz should stay, Doug and Howie should be out. Looks like Howie isn't going anywhere, but he should not be overseeing the draft. But someone needs to go, and if I had to pick one of the three it's Doug. I'd argue he had the least to do with their Super Bowl win, of the three.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,888
    Jearlpam0925 said:
     Wentz , Doug and Howie . I'd argue he had the least to do with their Super Bowl win, of the three.
    How did he have less to do with it than Wentz who missed the entire playoffs?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Haha, F Me - your problem with Sanders is strictly because he was on your fantasy roster right?

    I've said from the beginning - Wentz should stay, Doug and Howie should be out. Looks like Howie isn't going anywhere, but he should not be overseeing the draft. But someone needs to go, and if I had to pick one of the three it's Doug. I'd argue he had the least to do with their Super Bowl win, of the three.

    Yes -- and it is ridiculous, right?  He was on TWO of my fantasy rosters, thereby doubling his importance to [my] world.
    :lol:
    That being stated, he did totally misuse a very good running back.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
     Wentz , Doug and Howie . I'd argue he had the least to do with their Super Bowl win, of the three.
    How did he have less to do with it than Wentz who missed the entire playoffs?
    I argue Wentz is the reason they were a #1 seed. I'm not saying Doug is fine as a coach, but he was/is all about delegating. When he is the main play caller, etc, they're not as good. Philly Special was Foles's call. This isn't Belichick we're talking about here.

    Listen, it's not that I'm not grateful for what all of these people have done, but Doug's hiring had more to do with Lurie wanting to get Chip out as quickly as possibly as opposed to what Doug brought to the table. I'd rather give up on Doug than the former franchise quarterback that they've financial committed to.

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