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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    pjhawks said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    3-for-3 motherfuckers. President, House, Senate. Fuckin A.

    To bring this full circle - Trump totally Sudfelded the Senate for Republicans. I cannot be fucking happier. 
    I’ll breathe easier on the 20th but yes looking good. That Leoffler chick is one unlikeabke human being
    Question on all of this with the Pence situation today.  They are obviously not going to succeed, but say they somehow did overturn the election.  Now that Democrats control everything, wouldn't their first order of business be throwing them both out of office and we'd end up with President Pelosi?  Given the 50-50 tie and Pence breaking the tie, they would need republican support, but Mitt would come through there without a doubt.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    That's a technicality I don't think Republicans have thought about, and with which I would relish.

    But I mean at the end of the day none of this is happening. And if it did I think I'd actually turn into one of those 'Merka guys and storm DC like the super hero PATRIOT that I truly am, Cliff.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Yeah I think the reason they are doing this is because they know it will not work. It's just to show the morons who voted for him that they stood up for him.

    The whole thing is so dumb. If it somehow were to succeed, wouldn't that mean every election from the president on down to locally elected officials are null and void? You can't just throw out part of a ballot, right? Fucking idiots...
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Definitely agree that it will not work. I saw Hawley clip from Fox News where he was pressed on why he won't be honest that it's not going to be successful and he had no answer.  That said, obviously the Pence situation wouldn't work even if he tries it, but yeah, it seems even more pointless after last night.  And yeah, I'd be with you

    I saw that duuuuuuuumb Georgia lady say that only the presidential election should be contested, not hers.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 said:


    I saw that duuuuuuuumb Georgia lady say that only the presidential election should be contested, not hers.
    lol...there must've been a special ballot just for her election. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    Haha, this is what I was getting at next in the NFL thread. I think that dipshit owner would make that trade in a heartbeat for a white QB.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    Haha, this is what I was getting at next in the NFL thread. I think that dipshit owner would make that trade in a heartbeat for a white QB.
    Can you imagine? Damn...that would be incredible
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    edited January 2021
    The Juggler said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    Haha, this is what I was getting at next in the NFL thread. I think that dipshit owner would make that trade in a heartbeat for a white QB.
    Can you imagine? Damn...that would be incredible
    I'm tellin' ya....this may not be crazy and out of the question. Can teams pay bonuses to players that go to another team? If I'm the Birds I take on Watson's entire monies plus pay Wentz's bonuses.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    Haha, this is what I was getting at next in the NFL thread. I think that dipshit owner would make that trade in a heartbeat for a white QB.
    Can you imagine? Damn...that would be incredible
    I'm tellin' ya....this may not be crazy and out of the question. Can teams pay bonuses to players that go to another team? If I'm the Birds I take on Watson's entire monies plus pay Wentz's bonuses.

    I think Watson would be solidly a top tier QB (I consider him a 2nd tier right now) if he had coaches who did not have shit for brains.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Imagine Wentz having Hopkins....then Doug trading Hopkins. We'd be losing our absolute shit.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Imagine Wentz having Hopkins....then Doug trading Hopkins. We'd be losing our absolute shit.

    Imagine Wentz having Agholar....then Doug trading.....lol.....sorry, just cracking myself up.

    Even though Nellie was awesome this year, the Iggles fans will always have this:

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
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    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,886
    What else would Houston demand along with Wentz?
    Gotta be at least 2 first rounders.
    Watson is staying. Caserio has already said as much. Basically his first official team sentence.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.

  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.


    Who thinks Harry is a dick for wanting to be traded so he can try and be a starter? 

    Also, Watson should want to be traded.  He works for a horrid organization and they supposedly have lied to him.  Even without that, they blow and they traded away one of the best WR in the league for a walking turd.  (Not even a Running turd, a limping turd, really.)
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Deshaun Watson in midnight green (nay, kelly) would look fantastic...

    By the way, he is an example of a franchise qb putting up incredible numbers on a team that was just as shitty as the Eagles this year. Also has an immensely better contract than Carson. 

    I know it will probably not happen but a guy can dream!
    well actually according to overthecap.com, while Wentz's cap number is significantly larger in 2021 it is actually lower for 2022 through 2024 and Watson has one extra year in 2025.  See numbers below.

    Wentz cap:
    2021 - $34.6 (17.4% of cap)
    2022 - $31.2 (13.7)
    2023 - $34.2 (14.2)
    2024 - $32.0 (12.5)

    Watson cap:
    2021 - 15.9 (8.6)
    2022 - 40.4 (17.8)
    2023 - 42.4 (17.6)
    2024 - 34.7 (13.6)
    2025 - 32.0




    -https://www.radio.com/94wip/deshaun-watson-for-carson-wentz-a-look-at-the-possibility
    -

    Financially, Watson’s deal is actually very tradable and very team friendly. Trading Watson would cost the Texans only $21 million in dead money, compared to the $33 million it would cost the Eagles. It is worth noting that despite Watson signing a bigger deal, and signing it two years after Wentz did, his deal seems to be structured way better for the Texans than Wentz’s is for the Eagles.

    A deal for Watson would cost the Eagles the following, via OverTheCap.com:

    Watson would cost the Eagles:
    2021: $10.54 million base salary
    2022: $35 million base salary (2023 money becomes fully guaranteed on March 22nd)
    2023: $20 million base salary, $17 million roster bonus
    2024: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)
    2025: $32 million base salary (not guaranteed)


    His cap hits would be:

    Cap hits:
    2021: $10.54 million
    2022: $35 million
    2023: $37 million
    2024: $32 million
    2025: $32 million

    so very similar to what I posted above and still higher per year in 2022 and 2023 and similar in 2024.  Next year is the killer for Wentz's contract vs. Watson's

    And just so you don't take this out of context at a later date as of January 8, 2021 I would most likely make the trade Wentz for Watson if it was a straight 1 for 1 deal.  

    I also find it interesting a lot of people who think Wentz is a dick for maybe wanting to be traded don't seem to have the same attitude towards Watson possibly wanting out.


    And, sorry, I didn't see it first... "most likely?"
    So are you saying it is close?
    Watson is tier 2, imo.
    Right now, Carson is 1 run from the bottom, depending on how many tiers one creates, imo.  He is above the bottom but at that salary and the performance this year, not much.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    edited January 2021
    Watson had possibly the #1 receiver in the league traded away from him, and he still excelled. Wentz did not do this. This isn't hard to understand. This is like Wentz's season last year where he put up 4k yards without one WR going over 500  yards. There's no hypocrisy in that. Hell, Wentz was allowed the autonomy to call plays on the field and audible out of anything. I just don't feel the need to defend defend defend like he's my son or some shit. Hypocrisy, and the irony here, is to keep talking shit about the very fanbase you belong to for eating their own when this is the very thing you consistently do.

    Wentz is a dick for thinking he has any leverage in this situation. If I were him would I want out? Absolutely. But guess what? Ride that bench, baby, and compete for the starting job next year or we (the organization) will do what we please with you, Mr. I Just Got Paid A Shit Load of Money. 

    Watson is still performing. I don't blame him for wanting out, if that's the case. Not so as much with Neck Acne.
    Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Watson had possibly the #1 receiver in the league traded away from him, and he still excelled. Wentz did not do this. This isn't hard to understand. This is like Wentz's season last year where he put up 4k yards without one WR going over 500  yards. There's no hypocrisy in that. Hell, Wentz was allowed the autonomy to call plays on the field and audible out of anything. I just don't feel the need to defend defend defend like he's my son or some shit. Hypocrisy, and the irony here, is to keep talking shit about the very fanbase you belong to for eating their own when this is the very thing you consistently do.

    Wentz is a dick for thinking he has any leverage in this situation. If I were him would I want out? Absolutely. But guess what? Ride that bench, baby, and compete for the starting job next year or we (the organization) will do what we please with you, Mr. I Just Got Paid A Shit Load of Money. 

    Watson is still performing. I don't blame him for wanting out, if that's the case. Not so as much with Neck Acne.

    Neck acne is not Blood Face but it still made me laugh.
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