Paparazzo dies taking pics of Bieber's ferrari

musicismylife78

You seemed to put Clooney and Depp up there as people who dont attract press attention and who dont care if their picture is taken. Both premises are ludicrous. Why dont you follow the press next time Clooney and his lady friend go to his house in France. And then hide in the bushes and snap photos of him. Im sure he'd be glad to welcome you into his house and would be delighted to see you! And Depp, next time he's out walking with his children, why dont you join up with some press, and see what Depps reaction would be if you got in his familys face, took photos of him, asked him a ton of questions and were intrusive. Again, Im sure Depp would be absolutely thrilled to see you and interact with you.

Its basic human decency. If you are in someones space, and they dont want you there, its the next logical step to say "hey this guy doesnt want me here, im going to leave him alone and leave".

I laid out 5 basic rules that are simple. How hard is it to follow those? You ask first, if they say no, you leave them alone, if they say yes, you limit your time, and you dont intrude. Thats basic human interaction and relationship stuff.

Its gross that there are people who believe celebrities arent owed free/private/down time to relax and spend with family and that they are forever beholden to us the public. So if someone is in the newest box office hit, they are denied time to be just human and do basic human things like go to the store and buy onions? Really?

And people wonder why celebrities go crazy!

Wow!

hedonist

Who's this "you" you're speaking to? :P

These guys wouldn't be in business if there weren't a profitable market for their product, whether it's keeping someone in the public eye for PR purposes, or giving the people what they usually, unfortunately, want.

musicismylife78

paparazzi are blind. If you speed up to catch up with a celebrity, and they walk about, or drive away, what is the logical next step? Is it to continue to tail and follow and harass the celebrity?

What would you say if someone got in your face and took your photo and wouldnt leave you alone? If you told them, leave me alone, Im not into talking to you. What would happen if that person continued following you and taking your picture? And when you got in your car they followed you. Every time you said leave me alone, it fell on deaf ears. I know alot of people, including some pretty easy going people, who would be at wits end.

What would happen if that was a daily occurance? How would your life, or mental state or emotional state change as a result? And if naive people told you "oh poor little rich girl, you make 15 million a year and your complaining?". What if people actually told you, you had to put up with it, and that it was all part of the deal?

Bieber didnt want his photo taken. All it took was this guy to read body language and that would be that

musicismylife78

hedonist wrote:

Who's this "you" you're speaking to? :P

These guys wouldn't be in business if there weren't a profitable market for their product, whether it's keeping someone in the public eye for PR purposes, or giving the people what they usually, unfortunately, want.

Im talking about anyone in this thread who disagrees with the premise that celebrities are human too, they deserve private lives where they arent followed, tailed, bothered, or in the spotlight. That they deserve privacy, and should be allowed to go get a magazine at the store or go to the beach with their children without having to deal with paparazzi getting in their personal space. And that if a celebrity doesnt want to have their photo taken, that the press should respect that.

If you disagree with any of that, i think you are off your rocker.

The fact is no artist is promoting 24.7. Next time ed's at the store with his daughters and wife, would it wise of you to grab 20 other photographers, take photos of him and his family, ask him a million questions, and tail him and chase him in the car. What exactly would be his response? What would any humans response to that be?

People act like this is some sort of video game or movie. Its not. Is peoples lives. Its absolutely surreal that anyone would have the guts to argue on here that the next time jennifer garners at Target with her kid and Ben Affleck, that the paparazzi not only have the right to bother him and get in their space, but that its ethically and morally okay and that its essentially part and parcel of being a celebrity.

Its sad to me that people have that little amount of respect for a human being that their feathers dont ruffle when they see celebrities private lives exposed and not respected like that. Takes alot of temerity to argue that the press harassing and wildly chasing another celebrity in a car, which could kill the star, the press, or our family members and innocent bystanders, that this sort of behavior is ok. To me, thats insanity.

musicismylife78

plus everyone here is just big talkers. If they actually practiced what they preached, they'd be in jail or arrested. You as a private citizen couldnt get away with treating anyone like that, let alone a celebrity. You really think if you went up to Sean Penn and acted like the paps do that it would be ok and that you wouldnt get into serious trouble, even serious legal and criminal trouble?

Its criminal behavior plain and simple. Whoever was the Tmz advocate is strange. These people get paid to take pictures of celebrities pumping gas at a gas station. And your telling me its an honest and decent living?

PJ_Soul

musicismylife78 wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Who's this "you" you're speaking to? :P

These guys wouldn't be in business if there weren't a profitable market for their product, whether it's keeping someone in the public eye for PR purposes, or giving the people what they usually, unfortunately, want.

Im talking about anyone in this thread who disagrees with the premise that celebrities are human too, they deserve private lives where they arent followed, tailed, bothered, or in the spotlight. That they deserve privacy, and should be allowed to go get a magazine at the store or go to the beach with their children without having to deal with paparazzi getting in their personal space. And that if a celebrity doesnt want to have their photo taken, that the press should respect that.

If you disagree with any of that, i think you are off your rocker.

The fact is no artist is promoting 24.7. Next time ed's at the store with his daughters and wife, would it wise of you to grab 20 other photographers, take photos of him and his family, ask him a million questions, and tail him and chase him in the car. What exactly would be his response? What would any humans response to that be?

People act like this is some sort of video game or movie. Its not. Is peoples lives. Its absolutely surreal that anyone would have the guts to argue on here that the next time jennifer garners at Target with her kid and Ben Affleck, that the paparazzi not only have the right to bother him and get in their space, but that its ethically and morally okay and that its essentially part and parcel of being a celebrity.

Its sad to me that people have that little amount of respect for a human being that their feathers dont ruffle when they see celebrities private lives exposed and not respected like that. Takes alot of temerity to argue that the press harassing and wildly chasing another celebrity in a car, which could kill the star, the press, or our family members and innocent bystanders, that this sort of behavior is ok. To me, thats insanity.

I don't think anyone here has been acting like they don't think celebrities are human or like they don't respect human beings.

Kel Varnsen

Jodie Foster's speech at the Golden Globes made me think of this thread and kind of proves my point. I mean Jodie Foster is a huge star (and up until a few years ago was one of only a few actresses who could open a movie big based on her name alone) she is also gay and is close personal friends with Mel Gibson. To me tabloids would eat that up if possible, but her face isn't on US weekly and the Enquirer every week. To me that proves there are ways for celebrities to avoid paparizzi attention.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Kel Varnsen wrote:

To me that proves there are ways for celebrities to avoid paparizzi attention.

Agreed. Hey, let's get real here. These guys that make asses of themselves shooting a million pictures and selling them to tabloids are clearly annoyances to celebrities; but they are part in parcel.

Every job has qualities that leave much to be desired about. The lifestyle afforded to the 'rich and famous' comes with a bit of a price. Although susceptible to 'openings'... stars can do many things that make them less accessible.

And Hugh... come on: you can't be serious. You are an outspoken opponent of the death penalty. You say you're having a hard time feeling sorry for this photographer, but his crime pales in comparison to some of the 'other' people's that you have suggested deserve better.

The photographer might have been obnoxious, but he was Bieber's problem and business- not ours. Away from the camera, he could have been a really good guy. He didn't deserve death for shooting pictures- maybe a slap to the head or a good lod fashion noogey... but not death.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

And Hugh... come on: you can't be serious. You are an outspoken opponent of the death penalty. You say you're having a hard time feeling sorry for this photographer, but his crime pales in comparison to some of the 'other' people's that you have suggested deserve better.

The photographer might have been obnoxious, but he was Bieber's problem and business- not ours. Away from the camera, he could have been a really good guy. He didn't deserve death for shooting pictures- maybe a slap to the head or a good lod fashion noogey... but not death.

I'm not saying that I applaud the guy's death. Far from it. All I said was I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who is dealt consequences of their behaviour. No one deserves to die as a result, I just have trouble feeling sorry for someone dying as a result of harassing someone. There's a BIG difference between the two.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

And Hugh... come on: you can't be serious. You are an outspoken opponent of the death penalty. You say you're having a hard time feeling sorry for this photographer, but his crime pales in comparison to some of the 'other' people's that you have suggested deserve better.

The photographer might have been obnoxious, but he was Bieber's problem and business- not ours. Away from the camera, he could have been a really good guy. He didn't deserve death for shooting pictures- maybe a slap to the head or a good lod fashion noogey... but not death.

I'm not saying that I applaud the guy's death. Far from it. All I said was I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who is dealt consequences of their behaviour. No one deserves to die as a result, I just have trouble feeling sorry for someone dying as a result of harassing someone. There's a BIG difference between the two.

I never said you applauded it. It's just kind of curious that you would be kind of unsympathetic for this guy.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

I never said you applauded it. It's just kind of curious that you would be kind of unsympathetic for this guy.

I am against pre meditated murder by anyone, that includes the state.

if someone dies hurting someone else, whether it be emotionally, physically, psychologically, etc, even though they didn't necessarily DESERVE to die, I also won't necessarily lose sleep over it.

USARAY

hey celebs know thisgoes with the multimillion dollar paycheckitsa drawback but not enough
tostop collecting them thisguy died onthe jobno different then anotherguy trying to make livingthen loses
his life
be respectful the guydied

fife

I am just wondering why these comments are not under the thread of "PIC where Eddie looks hot"

I think the reason you see this happening is due to the public. We are fascinated with fame. we want to be close to them, we want to live through them. (when i say we, i don't mean all of us)

I remember asking a friend who asked someone famous for an autograph why they needed a piece of paper with a person name on in and she couldn't tell me why.

things like this will always happen until we as people stop putting people on a pedestal

Thirty Bills Unpaid

USARAY wrote:

hey celebs know thisgoes with the multimillion dollar paycheckitsa drawback but not enough
tostop collecting them thisguy died onthe jobno different then anotherguy trying to make livingthen loses
his life
be respectful the guydied

Oh my god.

USARAY

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

USARAY wrote:

hey celebs know thisgoes with the multimillion dollar paycheckitsa drawback but not enough
tostop collecting them thisguy died onthe jobno different then anotherguy trying to make livingthen loses
his life
be respectful the guydied

Oh my god.

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