Are you saying all firearms should be confiscated or that they just shouldn't be sold going forward? Also, what outcomes are you hoping to achieve and what evidence are using to benchmark how similar actions have achieved those outcomes in the past? Remember, you're taking a majority of municipalities where firearms have been legal and available for a couple centuries.
ban all type of guns..ALL...
only police and military can carry the guns..not even one single civilian..for any reason
thats my Clear opinion..
You could never sell that to the American public. Many (most?) still cling to the myth that they have the power to rise up and fight their government; to defend themselves from tyranny. Of course, I suspect that most of those people know that their guns are really just toys and compared to the might of the US military their personal arsenals are absolutely irrelevant.
ban all type of guns..ALL...
only police and military can carry the guns..not even one single civilian..for any reason
thats my Clear opinion..
You could never sell that to the American public. Many (most?) still cling to the myth that they have the power to rise up and fight their government; to defend themselves from tyranny. Of course, I suspect that most of those people know that their guns are really just toys and compared to the might of the US military their personal arsenals are absolutely irrelevant.
goverment selling you to sent your troops to go to wars that no need to even begin in the other side of the world..
if they want this,they can do it..
if they want they can make you forget eat burgers and all start eat greek souvlaki and yogurt if they want..
they have the power,they have the media,they can do what ever they want to guide people...
and ofcourse,this can happen to all countries,.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Are you saying all firearms should be confiscated or that they just shouldn't be sold going forward? Also, what outcomes are you hoping to achieve and what evidence are using to benchmark how similar actions have achieved those outcomes in the past? Remember, you're taking a majority of municipalities where firearms have been legal and available for a couple centuries.
ban all type of guns..ALL...
only police and military can carry the guns..not even one single civilian..for any reason
thats my Clear opinion..
So you're advocating for a government to seize property that was purchased legally from citizens who have not committed a crime? Is part of your plan to compensate individuals for what has been seized? I would imagine many folks have spent well into the thousands, depending on how long they have licensed for.
ban all type of guns..ALL...
only police and military can carry the guns..not even one single civilian..for any reason
thats my Clear opinion..
So you're advocating for a government to seize property that was purchased legally from citizens who have not committed a crime? Is part of your plan to compensate individuals for what has been seized? I would imagine many folks have spent well into the thousands, depending on how long they have licensed for.
yes..all guns taken away from everyone..police and military only carry guns and even them training every month and checked if they are ok at their minds 2-3 times per year..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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You didn't answer the question. How do you propose to compensate the owners of these firearms?
yeah that's when i'd be....yeah hello 911? some crooked fucker broke into my house and stole all my guns, so i got nothing to turn in. bummer dudes. i wouldn't be alone trust me.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
ban all type of guns..ALL...
only police and military can carry the guns..not even one single civilian..for any reason
thats my Clear opinion..
So you're advocating for a government to seize property that was purchased legally from citizens who have not committed a crime? Is part of your plan to compensate individuals for what has been seized? I would imagine many folks have spent well into the thousands, depending on how long they have licensed for.
yes..all guns taken away from everyone..police and military only carry guns and even them training every month and checked if they are ok at their minds 2-3 times per year..
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
With thought processes like that if we ban all the cars think of all the lives we would save. Evn if it's just one. How about banning all the alcohol> Evn if it's just one? How about all cigarettes...I mean even if it's just one. How about all swimming pools...I mean this is about saving lives so we would save at least one there too.
yeah but those people wouldn't be killed by guns so they fall into the category of either
a. they did it to themselves
b. they are part of a cost benefit ratio
c. shit happens that's life
and these people aren't worth saving. only people killed by guns are worth saving. the goal isn't to save lives, it's to get rid of guns.
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
With thought processes like that if we ban all the cars think of all the lives we would save. Evn if it's just one. How about banning all the alcohol> Evn if it's just one? How about all cigarettes...I mean even if it's just one. How about all swimming pools...I mean this is about saving lives so we would save at least one there too.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
30,000 people out of 315,000,000 dies from guns. Take out murders from illegal guns, take out suicides, and take out justifiable homicide the actual number is quite small. But keep with the mindset of punishing the innocent gun owners for the criminals. People keep pushing your justification that banning guns from legal citizens in this country will end the criminal problem and the crimininal possession of weapons. Such a ridiculous perspective. Absolutley ridiculous. :fp:
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
30,000 people out of 315,000,000 dies from guns. Take out murders from illegal guns, take out suicides, and take out justifiable homicide the actual number is quite small. But keep with the mindset of punishing the innocent gun owners for the criminals. People keep pushing your justification that banning guns from legal citizens in this country will end the criminal problem and the crimininal possession of weapons. Such a ridiculous perspective. Absolutley ridiculous. :fp:
paint it whatever way you want, America has a problem with gun control, simple. I could continue, like others to back up with some fact, but I know what your take on fact is so I won't waste my time.
Some people's response after the massacre was to go out and stock up on weapons and ammo, shops reported bumper sales. That, to me, says an awful lot about some people's empathy (or lack their of) and intelligence (again; lack their of).
But I guess that what you get when you grow up in a society that trumpets the idea of me over we.
i would have liked to know who in my neighborhood has guns so that my kids do not go over to their house without supervision.
This i for one don't wan't my kids at houses where there are guns , rifles , granade launchers , missle launchers and such and don't tell me people don't have these ...
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
Dimitris, you're not answering my questions. I agree with you that there is an issue of grave concern, but don't think you're making a reasoned case for your solution.
Just thought I'd post this here since this a gun debate and it will never make national attention. Happens more frequently that one would think too. But we should definitely take the guns out of legal gun owners hands. Makes perfect sense. :?
DS1119, Thanks for the link. That shit happens all the time. In Tacoma alone, where I live, I recall at least three similar stories reported by the media in the last 2 years. Did you scroll down and read the comments? If not, you should. The one guy that gives us a great history lesson of past gun control in other countries. That is what the 2nd is all about.
DS1119, Thanks for the link. That shit happens all the time. In Tacoma alone, where I live, I recall at least three similar stories reported by the media in the last 2 years. Did you scroll down and read the comments? If not, you should. The one guy that gives us a great history lesson of past gun control in other countries. That is what the 2nd is all about.
This post.
> LITTLE GUN HISTORY.
> In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
>> From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves,
> were round.
> ed up and exterminated.
> In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
> From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were.
> rounded up and exte...rminated.
> Germany
> established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million.
> Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and.
> exterminated.
>
> China established gun.
> control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to.
> defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
>
> Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to.
> 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and.
> exterminated.
>
> Uganda established gun.
> control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend.
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
>
> Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to.
> 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up.
> and exterminated.
>
> Defenseless people.
> rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56.
> million.
> You won't see this data on the US.
> evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this.
> information.
>
> Guns in the hands of.
> honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely.
> affect only the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too.
> late!
> The next time someone talks in favor.
> of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
> With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are.
> 'subjects'.
I'll post it if no one wants to do the searching.
Yeah. Penalizing the innocent and taking away their rights is always the right course of action to punish the criminals. Yes...keeping Joe Average from having a rifle in his house will definitely keep a rifle from being out on the streets. Increase the police and police presence people to stop the criminal element. Paper legislation will do nothing here. :fp:
Unfortunately these stories will never have national exposure. It doesn't go well with the liberal media's agenda. I mean you can't fight guns...or should I say illegal gun violence...when you concentrate on the wrong area and that area proves you wrong time and time again.
So let me get this straight; Americans with their handguns and semiautomatic rifles are going to hold back the most powerful military (their own) from overpowering them should the US government emerge as a fascist state? Do you have any idea how utterly ridiculous that sounds? If the US government ever emerged as a fascist nation and decided to round up all of the islamists/natives/jews/dissidents/activists/etc. there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it. This American fantasy of fending off the big bad government is just that; an absolute pipe dream.
Just look at how well the Afghanis or Iraqis have fared against the might of US forces. Do you really think your local militias will do any better?
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
the system now dont working..
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
Dimitris, you're not answering my questions. I agree with you that there is an issue of grave concern, but don't think you're making a reasoned case for your solution.
raise the taxis to gun owners..
all go to the police and say what guns they own with serial numbers and how many guns
all need to go to training camp for shooting monthly
all pass doctors exams,from their eyes to their minds before take a lisense to get a gun
all buy bullets need to be recorded.,all will have a gun owner id with lisence number
the state need to know where and when u use the bullets
all create safety place in their house to lock the guns,and need to take the ok from police if they are locked safety(like the ok fire department give to open a shop)
give like a 3 month period all be recorded,after that anyone has a gun that isnt on the list and havent lisense for it,arrested ,go to jail for 5 years and pay 100.000 $ panalty..
just a few to start with..
the good guys,i guess will not have problem with that..the onwners want to be legal and have guns to protect themself..the bad guys with illigal guns will not wa\nt that..
as for taxis..and 200 years ownership?
so what..goverment can raise taxis for every reason they want..
u have a family business for 200 years,they raise the taxis this year...no matter how old are u,or own something..
same with guns..
where u find the money to organize this???
stop one of the "wars" outside and far away of the borders ,and put thae money for the "war" inside your borders..
lets for once ,someone else to "save" ,Avganistan or iraq..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
nothing more hardcore than 20 childred instead of getting Christmas gift,get buried..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
raise the taxis to gun owners..
all go to the police and say what guns they own with serial numbers and how many guns
all need to go to training camp for shooting monthly
all pass doctors exams,from their eyes to their minds before take a lisense to get a gun
all buy bullets need to be recorded.,all will have a gun owner id with lisence number
the state need to know where and when u use the bullets
all create safety place in their house to lock the guns,and need to take the ok from police if they are locked safety(like the ok fire department give to open a shop)
give like a 3 month period all be recorded,after that anyone has a gun that isnt on the list and havent lisense for it,arrested ,go to jail for 5 years and pay 100.000 $ panalty..
just a few to start with..
the good guys,i guess will not have problem with that..the onwners want to be legal and have guns to protect themself..the bad guys with illigal guns will not wa\nt that..
as for taxis..and 200 years ownership?
so what..goverment can raise taxis for every reason they want..
u have a family business for 200 years,they raise the taxis this year...no matter how old are u,or own something..
same with guns..
where u find the money to organize this???
stop one of the "wars" outside and far away of the borders ,and put thae money for the "war" inside your borders..
lets for once ,someone else to "save" ,Avganistan or iraq..
How would taxes on gun owners solve anything? This tells me you're approaching this more as a vendetta and just looking to extract a pound of flesh.
The guns you're calling to ban already need to be registered with the state, at least in any states that I am familiar with the law. If there are some states where this doesn't exist, I don't really have a problem with extending that to a federal law.
How does sending people to training camp solve anything? If your concern is with violence, now you'll have a better trained populace. Again, you're approaching this as a vendetta by commanding citizens' money and time.
How in the world can you possibly expect to track every bullet? Is each one individually coded? Will people have to chase down shells to prove it's no longer in their possession? How would they prove it if you used them somewhere other than where you said you were? How would hunters have any idea how many bullets they might go through on a given trip? I could go on and on, but the larger point is How in the holy hell could you possibly expect any government agency to accurately account for the ammunition of every gun owner in their jurisdiction???
You're just throwing spaghetti at the wall, man; you still haven't shown me any evidence of where these ideas have worked in the past in similar situations. When something like this goes down, it's sad and frustrating for everyone. When it comes to enacting legislation, it requires a clear head and rational focus. I feel that the emotion and ego that demands an immediate response is doing a great disservice to the under-explored reasons for why these things happen and how we can prevent the next one.
I have a different take on this. I don't think think it's much of an issue for the gun owners as it's public record.
For the NON GUN OWNERS, this map gives criminals targets where they can be pretty sure there aren't guns.
...
Unless... there are unlicensed guns in those houses.
And unlicensed gun can kill you as easily as a licensed gun.
...
Burglery is still a crap shoot... and basically, a bet not worth taking.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Was this the right thing to do? I have to say IF I was a gun owner I wouldn't want my name published for ALL to see.
What is your thoughts on this issue?
Peace
...
My take...
First off... it is NOT the Government publishing the addresses... it is the Free Press publishing it. So, alll of the Anti-Governemt arguements are nullified.
...
That said, i don't think it is the proper thing to do... publish the addresses. Regardless of how I feel about the over abundance of guns we have in our society, i think privacy is something we need to consider.
That's not to say I do not understand the opposing view, because i DO understand their arguements. I wouldn't want my kids going over to a friend's house if I knew there were guns located there. I have no idea on how secured or unsecured those guns are. Like the Lanza household in Conneticut... would you feel okay if a holsehold like that was when your kid was going over to play with his friend, Adam?
...
So... while I see and understand the opposing view... i still believe that privacy is at the root of the issue. If I really wanted to know... I suppose I could request the same information from the same sources that the newpaper did.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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You could never sell that to the American public. Many (most?) still cling to the myth that they have the power to rise up and fight their government; to defend themselves from tyranny. Of course, I suspect that most of those people know that their guns are really just toys and compared to the might of the US military their personal arsenals are absolutely irrelevant.
if they want this,they can do it..
if they want they can make you forget eat burgers and all start eat greek souvlaki and yogurt if they want..
they have the power,they have the media,they can do what ever they want to guide people...
and ofcourse,this can happen to all countries,.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
So you're advocating for a government to seize property that was purchased legally from citizens who have not committed a crime? Is part of your plan to compensate individuals for what has been seized? I would imagine many folks have spent well into the thousands, depending on how long they have licensed for.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What is the outcome you hope to accomplish and what is the benchmark that gives you confidence that this is the solution? Remember, you're talking about a populace with 200+ years of firearm ownership that you need to account for.
Also, how are are you compensating these law-abiding citizens for seizing their previously legally owned property?
no it is not the right thing to do. it is a violation of peoples privacy.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
And this goes against everything the US Constitution states.
kids go to school and die..
last year you had 30000 deaths from guns
ban all the guns
if next year have 29999 deaths,the system worked..
time to change..your violence system of Rambos failed..sad but true..John McClain is fake
and ownership??
put taxis 50000 $ per gun per year...tALL will forget ownership in a second..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
With thought processes like that if we ban all the cars think of all the lives we would save. Evn if it's just one. How about banning all the alcohol> Evn if it's just one? How about all cigarettes...I mean even if it's just one. How about all swimming pools...I mean this is about saving lives so we would save at least one there too.
a. they did it to themselves
b. they are part of a cost benefit ratio
c. shit happens that's life
and these people aren't worth saving. only people killed by guns are worth saving. the goal isn't to save lives, it's to get rid of guns.
30,000 people out of 315,000,000 dies from guns. Take out murders from illegal guns, take out suicides, and take out justifiable homicide the actual number is quite small. But keep with the mindset of punishing the innocent gun owners for the criminals. People keep pushing your justification that banning guns from legal citizens in this country will end the criminal problem and the crimininal possession of weapons. Such a ridiculous perspective. Absolutley ridiculous.
paint it whatever way you want, America has a problem with gun control, simple. I could continue, like others to back up with some fact, but I know what your take on fact is so I won't waste my time.
Some people's response after the massacre was to go out and stock up on weapons and ammo, shops reported bumper sales. That, to me, says an awful lot about some people's empathy (or lack their of) and intelligence (again; lack their of).
But I guess that what you get when you grow up in a society that trumpets the idea of me over we.
This i for one don't wan't my kids at houses where there are guns , rifles , granade launchers , missle launchers and such and don't tell me people don't have these ...
Dimitris, you're not answering my questions. I agree with you that there is an issue of grave concern, but don't think you're making a reasoned case for your solution.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Phoenix-ho ... 38952.html
This post.
> LITTLE GUN HISTORY.
> In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
>> From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves,
> were round.
> ed up and exterminated.
> In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
> From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were.
> rounded up and exte...rminated.
> Germany
> established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million.
> Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and.
> exterminated.
>
> China established gun.
> control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to.
> defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
>
> Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to.
> 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and.
> exterminated.
>
> Uganda established gun.
> control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend.
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
>
> Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to.
> 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up.
> and exterminated.
>
> Defenseless people.
> rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56.
> million.
> You won't see this data on the US.
> evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this.
> information.
>
> Guns in the hands of.
> honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely.
> affect only the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too.
> late!
> The next time someone talks in favor.
> of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
> With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are.
> 'subjects'.
I'll post it if no one wants to do the searching.
Yeah. Penalizing the innocent and taking away their rights is always the right course of action to punish the criminals. Yes...keeping Joe Average from having a rifle in his house will definitely keep a rifle from being out on the streets.
Unfortunately these stories will never have national exposure. It doesn't go well with the liberal media's agenda. I mean you can't fight guns...or should I say illegal gun violence...when you concentrate on the wrong area and that area proves you wrong time and time again.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
The GOP
We all need to let go of this scapegoat nonsense.
Just look at how well the Afghanis or Iraqis have fared against the might of US forces. Do you really think your local militias will do any better?
all go to the police and say what guns they own with serial numbers and how many guns
all need to go to training camp for shooting monthly
all pass doctors exams,from their eyes to their minds before take a lisense to get a gun
all buy bullets need to be recorded.,all will have a gun owner id with lisence number
the state need to know where and when u use the bullets
all create safety place in their house to lock the guns,and need to take the ok from police if they are locked safety(like the ok fire department give to open a shop)
give like a 3 month period all be recorded,after that anyone has a gun that isnt on the list and havent lisense for it,arrested ,go to jail for 5 years and pay 100.000 $ panalty..
just a few to start with..
the good guys,i guess will not have problem with that..the onwners want to be legal and have guns to protect themself..the bad guys with illigal guns will not wa\nt that..
as for taxis..and 200 years ownership?
so what..goverment can raise taxis for every reason they want..
u have a family business for 200 years,they raise the taxis this year...no matter how old are u,or own something..
same with guns..
where u find the money to organize this???
stop one of the "wars" outside and far away of the borders ,and put thae money for the "war" inside your borders..
lets for once ,someone else to "save" ,Avganistan or iraq..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How would taxes on gun owners solve anything? This tells me you're approaching this more as a vendetta and just looking to extract a pound of flesh.
The guns you're calling to ban already need to be registered with the state, at least in any states that I am familiar with the law. If there are some states where this doesn't exist, I don't really have a problem with extending that to a federal law.
How does sending people to training camp solve anything? If your concern is with violence, now you'll have a better trained populace. Again, you're approaching this as a vendetta by commanding citizens' money and time.
How in the world can you possibly expect to track every bullet? Is each one individually coded? Will people have to chase down shells to prove it's no longer in their possession? How would they prove it if you used them somewhere other than where you said you were? How would hunters have any idea how many bullets they might go through on a given trip? I could go on and on, but the larger point is How in the holy hell could you possibly expect any government agency to accurately account for the ammunition of every gun owner in their jurisdiction???
You're just throwing spaghetti at the wall, man; you still haven't shown me any evidence of where these ideas have worked in the past in similar situations. When something like this goes down, it's sad and frustrating for everyone. When it comes to enacting legislation, it requires a clear head and rational focus. I feel that the emotion and ego that demands an immediate response is doing a great disservice to the under-explored reasons for why these things happen and how we can prevent the next one.
Unless... there are unlicensed guns in those houses.
And unlicensed gun can kill you as easily as a licensed gun.
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Burglery is still a crap shoot... and basically, a bet not worth taking.
Hail, Hail!!!
My take...
First off... it is NOT the Government publishing the addresses... it is the Free Press publishing it. So, alll of the Anti-Governemt arguements are nullified.
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That said, i don't think it is the proper thing to do... publish the addresses. Regardless of how I feel about the over abundance of guns we have in our society, i think privacy is something we need to consider.
That's not to say I do not understand the opposing view, because i DO understand their arguements. I wouldn't want my kids going over to a friend's house if I knew there were guns located there. I have no idea on how secured or unsecured those guns are. Like the Lanza household in Conneticut... would you feel okay if a holsehold like that was when your kid was going over to play with his friend, Adam?
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So... while I see and understand the opposing view... i still believe that privacy is at the root of the issue. If I really wanted to know... I suppose I could request the same information from the same sources that the newpaper did.
Hail, Hail!!!
a privacy issue I would think.
Just more gun shaming going on ... seems to be going around.
Own proud, responsible and strong.