Please Tell Your Threatening Story Here

jimc3

DS1119 wrote:

jimc3 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.

you keep saying this is if it's an absloute incredulity that of the 40 people currently on the board (of which a small minority post in AMT, what, a dozen tops?), not a one has a) read your post and b) been affected by gun violence today.

you could get a dozen gang-bangers in a room at the end of the day and there's even a decent chance they weren't in a gunfight that day.

but you seem amazed that a handful of message board geeks holed up inside on their laptops hasn't cheated death today.

c'mon let's debate the issues. this is fucking tiring.

And of those dozen gang bangers you referenced...how many have guns? Even all of them say they do? How many were legally obtained? I would say zero.

I would say likely zero too...and that has zero bearing on whether one of us here had a "legit gun incident today"

Drowned Out

I was going to comment that it was a joke that you'd want people to post their traumatizing gun violence stories so that you can determine whether the story is either justification for gun ownership, or too rare an incident to justify gun controls, based on your preconceived notions/bias, and script for the thread.
You don't make the 'point' you're trying to make until 15-some-odd posts into the thread, even then you continue to bait people to post these stories, pretending you don't have an agenda.
Then I realized you wanted stories from today :fp:
how is that not trolling? Just make your point. why bait people? How would you feel if someone was able to show you that their family member or friend was shot recently and you're bein a smartass about this?




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JOEJOEJOE

DS1119 wrote:

The way the media paints the picture of the gun issue in the US is that we are running around like lawless cowboys and everyone is in fear for their lives. Like it's some war zone around here. Unfortunately many fall for this propaganda hook line and sinker. What I'm asking is people to post some stories. Tell me today how you were threatened by a gun? Tell me how you were threatened yesterday? Tell me how you are preparing for that threat tomorrow. And I don't mean google some random story about one crackhead shooting another crackhead I want to hear how you were directly threatened. Were you held up today? Was your home invaded? Did a legal gun owner accidentally discharge his weapon and hit your house? Did you feel unsafe driving to work today because of guns? Did you startle everytime someone knocked on your office door because you feared it was a kook gunman? Did you not go to lunch today for fear of being shot?

All it takes is one single gun incident to forever change the lives of many. Perhaps a more valid question would be "How many of you have had your lives effected because of a gun?" All of us who have shed tears this week when they read about a kid's funeral have been effected. Every John Lennon fan was effected because of a gun. One day is not a long enough period to use as the basis to judge a situation. A baseball player who goes 2 for 3 in a game isn't a .666 hitter for the season or his career.

If you were threatened by a gun, would you just shrug it off? Guns may not effect all of us on a day to day basis, but when that day comes, it isn't all that easy to dust yourself off and go about your business.

unsung

josevolution wrote:

DS you will never ever get any of us who are anti guns to see things your way surely you must see this by now no ? ...

Know this we've had enough of the massacres ....

We should just close down message boards then since people have no chance of possibly learning something.

blackredyellow

By your logic DS, please share your story of the time today that you were threatened to the point where you would be willing to kill someone. Either intruder or tyrannical govt agent.

Can't think of one? Guess no one needs guns then.

comebackgirl

I've been threatened with a gun. If you really want to know the details, send me a PM. If you just wanted to make a point, them yes - some of us on here do have "threatening stories."

DS1119

blackredyellow wrote:

By your logic DS, please share your story of the time today that you were threatened to the point where you would be willing to kill someone. Either intruder or tyrannical govt agent.

Can't think of one? Guess no one needs guns then.

Ah. And there's the point. Thank you for reinforcing it. Gun control advocates want to take away citizens rights that afford them the opportunity to protect themselves from and in those situations.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

I've been threatened with a gun. If you really want to know the details, send me a PM. If you just wanted to make a point, them yes - some of us on here do have "threatening stories."

Was it a legally owned weapon? Was it in one of these "mass slayings" that seem to be media hot points right now?

Drowned Out

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I've been threatened with a gun. If you really want to know the details, send me a PM. If you just wanted to make a point, them yes - some of us on here do have "threatening stories."

Was it a legally owned weapon? Was it in one of these "mass slayings" that seem to be media hot points right now?

See what I mean?

Why would someone tell a story that could have been the end of them so that you can grill them with leading questions based on your beliefs? You want to use others' misfortune to prove your point. classy.

further down the spiral we go....

PJ_Soul

Me and a friend were camping at this lake once (probably around 2004?), and late in the evening this RV showed up, and it was 2 guys and 2 girls in their early 20s or so (not too much younger than us). They couldn't find a camp site, so asked to share ours. We said sure, no prob. They seemed nice enough. So we were having some drinks together chatting, and one of the guys got more and more drunk, started getting a bit lippy and annoying - no big deal, but we noticed. Then all of a sudden he stood up, said "lookitthis!!", and pulled up his shirt to show us the hand gun he had tucked in his waistband. We and his own friends were like, "WTF??" He acted like he'd just pulled out a 12" penis. Got all weird and cocky. We asked him why he had it, and he said something like "why not? It's cool!" He had more drinks, and then he pulled the gun out and started kind of waving it around, getting more and more cocky the longer he held it. We were getting VERY SKETCHED OUT. Me and my friend looked to the other people, hoping they'd reign their buddy in. They tried, but then the guy just got defensive and aggressive, became very protective of his right to have his fucking gun. He started acting so fucking weird that we honestly and truly thought he was going to point it at one of us and threaten us with it. We couldn't say much of anything, and just tried to act cool, because we were afraid of what he was going to do. His friends even went and tired to take it away from him when he passed out, and he woke up and got REALLY mad and started pointing it at us in this "I'm the macho man, don't fuck with me" kind of way. It was FUCKED UP and I was totally tripped out. :?

(also, this asshole ran up behind us at one point at the edge of the lake and fuckin' pushed us in from behind, fully clothed, at night, and I had my camera in my pocket, which was ruined. Man, that guy was a RAT FUCK!!)

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I've been threatened with a gun. If you really want to know the details, send me a PM. If you just wanted to make a point, them yes - some of us on here do have "threatening stories."

Was it a legally owned weapon? Was it in one of these "mass slayings" that seem to be media hot points right now?

Yes it was legally obtained, and no, the person wasn't mentally ill. I can see you didn't send me a PM. If you want the details just so you can minimize my experience and tell me it wasn't that bad or doesn't fit your "criteria" since I didn't die along with 20 other people, it's probably best if you don't PM me.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

By your logic DS, please share your story of the time today that you were threatened to the point where you would be willing to kill someone. Either intruder or tyrannical govt agent.

Can't think of one? Guess no one needs guns then.

Ah. And there's the point. Thank you for reinforcing it. Gun control advocates want to take away citizens rights that afford them the opportunity to protect themselves from and in those situations.

You know DS, it makes a lot more sense to focus on prevention. i think that's the "point" that some of us get. You can spend all afternoon pulling people out of the river, but at some point it might make more sense to find out why they're being pushed into the river in the first place. That's something that public health advocates learned a long time ago. How many people here own a Toyota? How many had their accelerator stick? That didn't stop them having to recall millions of cars.

DS1119

PJ_Soul wrote:

Me and a friend were camping at this lake once (probably around 2004?), and late in the evening this RV showed up, and it was 2 guys and 2 girls in their early 20s or so (not too much younger than us). They couldn't find a camp site, so asked to share ours. We said sure, no prob. They seemed nice enough. So we were having some drinks together chatting, and one of the guys got more and more drunk, started getting a bit lippy and annoying - no big deal, but we noticed. Then all of a sudden he stood up, said "lookitthis!!", and pulled up his shirt to show us the hand gun he had tucked in his waistband. We and his own friends were like, "WTF??" He acted like he'd just pulled out a 12" penis. Got all weird and cocky. We asked him why he had it, and he said something like "why not? It's cool!" He had more drinks, and then he pulled the gun out and started kind of waving it around, getting more and more cocky the longer he held it. We were getting VERY SKETCHED OUT. Me and my friend looked to the other people, hoping they'd reign their buddy in. They tried, but then the guy just got defensive and aggressive, became very protective of his right to have his fucking gun. He started acting so fucking weird that we honestly and truly thought he was going to point it at one of us and threaten us with it. We couldn't say much of anything, and just tried to act cool, because we were afraid of what he was going to do. His friends even went and tired to take it away from him when he passed out, and he woke up and got REALLY mad and started pointing it at us in this "I'm the macho man, don't fuck with me" kind of way. It was FUCKED UP and I was totally tripped out. :?

(also, this asshole ran up behind us at one point at the edge of the lake and fuckin' pushed us in from behind, fully clothed, at night, and I had my camera in my pocket, which was ruined. Man, that guy was a RAT FUCK!!)

And so how does any of the legislation put on the table change this situation? Would you have felt less threatened if he had a machete? And also I sympathize with that situation. No one wants to be put into it and I certainly do not agree with it either.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I've been threatened with a gun. If you really want to know the details, send me a PM. If you just wanted to make a point, them yes - some of us on here do have "threatening stories."

Was it a legally owned weapon? Was it in one of these "mass slayings" that seem to be media hot points right now?

Yes it was legally obtained, and no, the person wasn't mentally ill. I can see you didn't send me a PM. If you want the details just so you can minimize my experience and tell me it wasn't that bad or doesn't fit your "criteria" since I didn't die along with 20 other people, it's probably best if you don't PM me.

I do empathize with that. I really do. I've actually had a gun pulled on me in a bar fight as well. That being said what legislation proposed could have kept this action from taking place without infringing on others rights to own the guns they have the right to own?

brianlux

This doesn't quite fit the OP's request for a story but I feel compelled to tell it anyway and then move on (again) from these circular gun debates.

When I was in 7th grade I made friends with this big friendly guy, BG, who was kind of like me- a bit of a geek but into cool music and such. We got together once at his house during the summer between 7th and 8th grade and had a great time. I remember, just for fun, trying to walk on the top of his backyard fence like it was a balance beam. I fell off the fence into a big patch of thistles and got pretty scraped up but when BG let out that big laugh of his I forgot my scratches and laughed along with him. As I was getting to leave he said, "Hey, I had a good time, let's get together before school starts up."

It was a busy summer. I was in Boy Scouts. The family went camping for a week and we took at least a couple of day trips to the beach. Before I knew it, we were back in school. Eight grade had started and I hadn't even so much as given BG a call.


When I got to school I asked around, "Hey, has anyone seen BG?"

"Didn't you hear?" another friend asked. BG is dead. When he found out his parents were breaking up he went out into his backyard and shot himself in the head with his dad's revolver."

Fuck. I still have a hard time telling this.

Ok, so maybe we'll never get rid of the guns in America but if BG's parents hadn't had them around, maybe he would have just taken pills or something and not died. Maybe I'd have had another chance to be a better friend and be there for him. Maybe it's just shitty friends that cause people to die, not guns, but fewer guns would mean fewer dead friends.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

How many people here own a Toyota? How many had their accelerator stick? That didn't stop them having to recall millions of cars.

Off topic but to answer this question it was just plain cheaper for Toyota to recall the cars. It was also much more beneficial PR wise than to go to court and basically tell an old lady she's flipping nuts. Even if Toyota wins that case they still lose. You know what they did for the recall? They cut some people's floormats and put a plastic staple adhering it to the floor so stupid people would stop shoving it under the gas pedal. BTW, Toyota was found non guilty of any wrong doing. Unfortuante that companies like this have to waste money to take care of irresponsible drivers. But ultimately it doesn't matter to them, the recall costs have already trickled back down into vehicle prices so ultimately the consumer pays anyhow. All that money wasted to make customers feel warm and fuzzy.

Kind of like how any of the gun legislation on the table is. Won't solve any problems when you're targeting the wrong problem.

Who Princess

brianlux wrote:

This doesn't quite fit the OP's request for a story but I feel compelled to tell it anyway and then move on (again) from these circular gun debates.

When I was in 7th grade I made friends with this big friendly guy, BG, who was kind of like me- a bit of a geek but into cool music and such. We got together once at his house during the summer between 7th and 8th grade and had a great time. I remember, just for fun, trying to walk on the top of his backyard fence like it was a balance beam. I fell off the fence into a big patch of thistles and got pretty scraped up but when BG let out that big laugh of his I forgot my scratches and laughed along with him. As I was getting to leave he said, "Hey, I had a good time, let's get together before school starts up."

It was a busy summer. I was in Boy Scouts. The family went camping for a week and we took at least a couple of day trips to the beach. Before I knew it, we were back in school. Eight grade had started and I hadn't even so much as given BG a call.


When I got to school I asked around, "Hey, has anyone seen BG?"

"Didn't you hear?" another friend asked. BG is dead. When he found out his parents were breaking up he went out into his backyard and shot himself in the head with his dad's revolver."

Fuck. I still have a hard time telling this.

Ok, so maybe we'll never get rid of the guns in America but if BG's parents hadn't had them around, maybe he would have just taken pills or something and not died. Maybe I'd have had another chance to be a better friend and be there for him. Maybe it's just shitty friends that cause people to die, not guns, but fewer guns would mean fewer dead friends.

OMG Brian, what a sad story and what a heavy thing for an 8th grader to have to carry. And yes, what a terrible thing that your friend had easy access to a loaded gun, making it all too easy to end his life.

DS1119

Who Princess wrote:

brianlux wrote:

This doesn't quite fit the OP's request for a story but I feel compelled to tell it anyway and then move on (again) from these circular gun debates.

When I was in 7th grade I made friends with this big friendly guy, BG, who was kind of like me- a bit of a geek but into cool music and such. We got together once at his house during the summer between 7th and 8th grade and had a great time. I remember, just for fun, trying to walk on the top of his backyard fence like it was a balance beam. I fell off the fence into a big patch of thistles and got pretty scraped up but when BG let out that big laugh of his I forgot my scratches and laughed along with him. As I was getting to leave he said, "Hey, I had a good time, let's get together before school starts up."

It was a busy summer. I was in Boy Scouts. The family went camping for a week and we took at least a couple of day trips to the beach. Before I knew it, we were back in school. Eight grade had started and I hadn't even so much as given BG a call.


When I got to school I asked around, "Hey, has anyone seen BG?"

"Didn't you hear?" another friend asked. BG is dead. When he found out his parents were breaking up he went out into his backyard and shot himself in the head with his dad's revolver."

Fuck. I still have a hard time telling this.

Ok, so maybe we'll never get rid of the guns in America but if BG's parents hadn't had them around, maybe he would have just taken pills or something and not died. Maybe I'd have had another chance to be a better friend and be there for him. Maybe it's just shitty friends that cause people to die, not guns, but fewer guns would mean fewer dead friends.

OMG Brian, what a sad story and what a heavy thing for an 8th grader to have to carry. And yes, what a terrible thing that your friend had easy access to a loaded gun, making it all too easy to end his life.

Absoltuley horrible story. It really is. I guess however if the parents were responsible with the gun (people were a lot more careless years ago than they are now) he could have still gotten a knife though.

brianlux

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

brianlux wrote:

This doesn't quite fit the OP's request for a story but I feel compelled to tell it anyway and then move on (again) from these circular gun debates.

When I was in 7th grade I made friends with this big friendly guy, BG, who was kind of like me- a bit of a geek but into cool music and such. We got together once at his house during the summer between 7th and 8th grade and had a great time. I remember, just for fun, trying to walk on the top of his backyard fence like it was a balance beam. I fell off the fence into a big patch of thistles and got pretty scraped up but when BG let out that big laugh of his I forgot my scratches and laughed along with him. As I was getting to leave he said, "Hey, I had a good time, let's get together before school starts up."

It was a busy summer. I was in Boy Scouts. The family went camping for a week and we took at least a couple of day trips to the beach. Before I knew it, we were back in school. Eight grade had started and I hadn't even so much as given BG a call.


When I got to school I asked around, "Hey, has anyone seen BG?"

"Didn't you hear?" another friend asked. BG is dead. When he found out his parents were breaking up he went out into his backyard and shot himself in the head with his dad's revolver."

Fuck. I still have a hard time telling this.

Ok, so maybe we'll never get rid of the guns in America but if BG's parents hadn't had them around, maybe he would have just taken pills or something and not died. Maybe I'd have had another chance to be a better friend and be there for him. Maybe it's just shitty friends that cause people to die, not guns, but fewer guns would mean fewer dead friends.

OMG Brian, what a sad story and what a heavy thing for an 8th grader to have to carry. And yes, what a terrible thing that your friend had easy access to a loaded gun, making it all too easy to end his life.

Absoltuley horrible story. It really is. I guess however if the parents were responsible with the gun (people were a lot more careless years ago than they are now) he could have still gotten a knife though.

I said I wouldn't get caught up in the gun debate but you do make a good point about being being responsible, DS. If people were required to have the intelligence and responsibility to be safe gun owners there would be far, far fewer guns in the U.S. We have an I.Q. test but how do you test for responsibility? If that could be done, I wouldn't be as concerned.

DS1119

brianlux wrote:

I said I wouldn't get caught up in the gun debate but you do make a good point about being being responsible, DS. If people were required to have the intelligence and responsibility to be safe gun owners there would be far, far fewer guns in the U.S. We have an I.Q. test but how do you test for responsibility? If that could be done, I wouldn't be as concerned.

Tragic. :( I hate hearing stories about people finding no alternative but to take their own life. In my opinion there is no greater measure of us as a people failing than when someone take's their own life. Someone actually decided it was better to be dead than to be here with the rest of us. This saddens me a lot actually. I guess the only reason I responded to your post was because of the way who princess responded that it was "easy access to a loaded gun"....quite the assumption. :(