Please Tell Your Threatening Story Here
DS1119
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The way the media paints the picture of the gun issue in the US is that we are running around like lawless cowboys and everyone is in fear for their lives. Like it's some war zone around here. Unfortunately many fall for this propaganda hook line and sinker. What I'm asking is people to post some stories. Tell me today how you were threatened by a gun? Tell me how you were threatened yesterday? Tell me how you are preparing for that threat tomorrow. And I don't mean google some random story about one crackhead shooting another crackhead I want to hear how you were directly threatened. Were you held up today? Was your home invaded? Did a legal gun owner accidentally discharge his weapon and hit your house? Did you feel unsafe driving to work today because of guns? Did you startle everytime someone knocked on your office door because you feared it was a kook gunman? Did you not go to lunch today for fear of being shot?
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
So I take it that legal guns didn't have any direct impact on you, your families, or loved ones lives today?
Lawless cowboys depicted in the media did not, no.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Lawless cowboys is my own term actually. If someone has used it before me then hey.
Are you doing anything to prepare for tomorrow when you leave the house? Bullet proof vest perhaps?
And these threads continue to be nothing more than a distraction.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I disagree from the simple standpoint that any incident involving a gun legally or illegally owned becomes front page news.
But back on point. I'd like to hear the stories.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... demic.html
"In the US, every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_peop ... _in_the_US
I would think it's safe to assume the the vast majority of people who encounter gun violence daily don't spend their afternoons on Pearl Jam message boards.
If you thumb through the newspaper of almost any major American city you will find that is also not true. There is inner-city gun violence that is often relegated to the Metro section or police blog.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But if it's such an issue it must be affecting everyone. Also those statistics include illegally owned and obtained guns. Something regulations of legally owned weapons will not end. By the numbers I'm seeing trying to answer a question in another thread over 92% of gun homicides in the US are committed by illegal firearms. Shouldn't we be concentrating on the criminals instead?
But again, back on point with the thread.
Where are the stories of the 99.99999% of the guns that day that weren't involved in any crimes?
Know this we've had enough of the massacres ....
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
And this is the issue. By their words and actions it seems like many of the gun advocates have not.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
not sure what you are trying to achieve. there have been several high-profile mass shootings over the last few years, that's what people are reacting to. why does it have to affect "everyone" "every day" for it to be a legitimate problem? you're not worried about getting the flu every day of the year, but that doesn't mean you won't consider getting a flu shot or not during flu season, even tho technically you could catch it any day of the year.
I mean really i'm at a loss for words i can't believe people still think like that after last friday i'm shocked at the mentality and sadden at the same time ....This is not the country i grew up in ..
Heart disease only killed 599,413 (CDC) in 2011.
Something doesn't need to affect everyone for it to merit our attention or collective action.
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There have been several shootings. What I'm "targeting" is people are concentrating on the wrong people. Penalize the law abiding citizens for the very few leagls gun issues/problems. Makes zero sense. I hear people get rid of guns...guns are stupid...fuck guns....it's all propaganda.
Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.
you keep saying this is if it's an absloute incredulity that of the 40 people currently on the board (of which a small minority post in AMT, what, a dozen tops?), not a one has a) read your post and b) been affected by gun violence today.
you could get a dozen gang-bangers in a room at the end of the day and there's even a decent chance they weren't in a gunfight that day.
but you seem amazed that a handful of message board geeks holed up inside on their laptops hasn't cheated death today.
c'mon let's debate the issues. this is fucking tiring.
And of those dozen gang bangers you referenced...how many have guns? Even all of them say they do? How many were legally obtained? I would say zero.
I would say likely zero too...and that has zero bearing on whether one of us here had a "legit gun incident today"
You don't make the 'point' you're trying to make until 15-some-odd posts into the thread, even then you continue to bait people to post these stories, pretending you don't have an agenda.
Then I realized you wanted stories from today :fp:
how is that not trolling? Just make your point. why bait people? How would you feel if someone was able to show you that their family member or friend was shot recently and you're bein a smartass about this?
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All it takes is one single gun incident to forever change the lives of many. Perhaps a more valid question would be "How many of you have had your lives effected because of a gun?" All of us who have shed tears this week when they read about a kid's funeral have been effected. Every John Lennon fan was effected because of a gun. One day is not a long enough period to use as the basis to judge a situation. A baseball player who goes 2 for 3 in a game isn't a .666 hitter for the season or his career.
If you were threatened by a gun, would you just shrug it off? Guns may not effect all of us on a day to day basis, but when that day comes, it isn't all that easy to dust yourself off and go about your business.
We should just close down message boards then since people have no chance of possibly learning something.
Can't think of one? Guess no one needs guns then.
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Ah. And there's the point. Thank you for reinforcing it. Gun control advocates want to take away citizens rights that afford them the opportunity to protect themselves from and in those situations.
Was it a legally owned weapon? Was it in one of these "mass slayings" that seem to be media hot points right now?
Why would someone tell a story that could have been the end of them so that you can grill them with leading questions based on your beliefs? You want to use others' misfortune to prove your point. classy.
further down the spiral we go....
(also, this asshole ran up behind us at one point at the edge of the lake and fuckin' pushed us in from behind, fully clothed, at night, and I had my camera in my pocket, which was ruined. Man, that guy was a RAT FUCK!!)