Please Tell Your Threatening Story Here

DS1119

The way the media paints the picture of the gun issue in the US is that we are running around like lawless cowboys and everyone is in fear for their lives. Like it's some war zone around here. Unfortunately many fall for this propaganda hook line and sinker. What I'm asking is people to post some stories. Tell me today how you were threatened by a gun? Tell me how you were threatened yesterday? Tell me how you are preparing for that threat tomorrow. And I don't mean google some random story about one crackhead shooting another crackhead I want to hear how you were directly threatened. Were you held up today? Was your home invaded? Did a legal gun owner accidentally discharge his weapon and hit your house? Did you feel unsafe driving to work today because of guns? Did you startle everytime someone knocked on your office door because you feared it was a kook gunman? Did you not go to lunch today for fear of being shot?

JimmyV

I have never seen the media paint the picture that we are running around like lawless cowboys. But then again I don't watch FOX. Are they still predicting a Romney landslide? Or has the focus turned entirely to lawless cowboys?

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

I have never seen the media paint the picture that we are running around like lawless cowboys. But then again I don't watch FOX. Are they still predicting a Romney landslide? Or has the focus turned entirely to lawless cowboys?

So I take it that legal guns didn't have any direct impact on you, your families, or loved ones lives today?

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I have never seen the media paint the picture that we are running around like lawless cowboys. But then again I don't watch FOX. Are they still predicting a Romney landslide? Or has the focus turned entirely to lawless cowboys?

So I take it that legal guns didn't have any direct impact on you, your families, or loved ones lives today?

Lawless cowboys depicted in the media did not, no.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I have never seen the media paint the picture that we are running around like lawless cowboys. But then again I don't watch FOX. Are they still predicting a Romney landslide? Or has the focus turned entirely to lawless cowboys?

So I take it that legal guns didn't have any direct impact on you, your families, or loved ones lives today?

Lawless cowboys depicted in the media did not, no.

Lawless cowboys is my own term actually. If someone has used it before me then hey.


Are you doing anything to prepare for tomorrow when you leave the house? Bullet proof vest perhaps?

JimmyV

I reject your premise that the media depicts us as being a lawless, cowboy-like society. It is not true.

And these threads continue to be nothing more than a distraction.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

I reject your premise that the media depicts us as being a lawless, cowboy-like society. It is not true.

And these threads continue to be nothing more than a distraction.

I disagree from the simple standpoint that any incident involving a gun legally or illegally owned becomes front page news.


But back on point. I'd like to hear the stories.

jimc3

"On average, according to the organization, a multiple-victim shooting happens every 5.9 days in the United States."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... demic.html

"In the US, every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_peop ... _in_the_US


I would think it's safe to assume the the vast majority of people who encounter gun violence daily don't spend their afternoons on Pearl Jam message boards.

JimmyV

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I reject your premise that the media depicts us as being a lawless, cowboy-like society. It is not true.

And these threads continue to be nothing more than a distraction.

I disagree from the simple standpoint that any incident involving a gun legally or illegally owned becomes front page news.


But back on point. I'd like to hear the stories.

If you thumb through the newspaper of almost any major American city you will find that is also not true. There is inner-city gun violence that is often relegated to the Metro section or police blog.

DS1119

jimc3 wrote:

"On average, according to the organization, a multiple-victim shooting happens every 5.9 days in the United States."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... demic.html

"In the US, every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_peop ... _in_the_US


I would think it's safe to assume the the vast majority of people who encounter gun violence daily don't spend their afternoons on Pearl Jam message boards.

But if it's such an issue it must be affecting everyone. Also those statistics include illegally owned and obtained guns. Something regulations of legally owned weapons will not end. By the numbers I'm seeing trying to answer a question in another thread over 92% of gun homicides in the US are committed by illegal firearms. Shouldn't we be concentrating on the criminals instead?


But again, back on point with the thread.

DS1119

JimmyV wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I reject your premise that the media depicts us as being a lawless, cowboy-like society. It is not true.

And these threads continue to be nothing more than a distraction.

I disagree from the simple standpoint that any incident involving a gun legally or illegally owned becomes front page news.


But back on point. I'd like to hear the stories.

If you thumb through the newspaper of almost any major American city you will find that is also not true. There is inner-city gun violence that is often relegated to the Metro section or police blog.

Where are the stories of the 99.99999% of the guns that day that weren't involved in any crimes?

josevolution

DS you will never ever get any of us who are anti guns to see things your way surely you must see this by now no ? ...

Know this we've had enough of the massacres ....

JimmyV

In the holsters of lawless cowboys?

JimmyV

josevolution wrote:

Know this we've had enough of the massacres ....

And this is the issue. By their words and actions it seems like many of the gun advocates have not.

jimc3

DS1119 wrote:

jimc3 wrote:

"On average, according to the organization, a multiple-victim shooting happens every 5.9 days in the United States."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... demic.html

"In the US, every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_peop ... _in_the_US


I would think it's safe to assume the the vast majority of people who encounter gun violence daily don't spend their afternoons on Pearl Jam message boards.

But if it's such an issue it must be affecting everyone. Also those statistics include illegally owned and obtained guns. Something regulations of legally owned weapons will not end. By the numbers I'm seeing trying to answer a question in another thread over 92% of gun homicides in the US are committed by illegal firearms. Shouldn't we be concentrating on the criminals instead?


But again, back on point with the thread.

not sure what you are trying to achieve. there have been several high-profile mass shootings over the last few years, that's what people are reacting to. why does it have to affect "everyone" "every day" for it to be a legitimate problem? you're not worried about getting the flu every day of the year, but that doesn't mean you won't consider getting a flu shot or not during flu season, even tho technically you could catch it any day of the year.

josevolution

JimmyV wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Know this we've had enough of the massacres ....

And this is the issue. By their words and actions it seems like many of the gun advocates have not.

I mean really i'm at a loss for words i can't believe people still think like that after last friday i'm shocked at the mentality and sadden at the same time ....This is not the country i grew up in ..

vant0037

DS1119 wrote:

But if it's such an issue it must be affecting everyone.

Heart disease only killed 599,413 (CDC) in 2011.

Something doesn't need to affect everyone for it to merit our attention or collective action.

DS1119

jimc3 wrote:

not sure what you are trying to achieve. there have been several high-profile mass shootings over the last few years, that's what people are reacting to. why does it have to affect "everyone" "every day" for it to be a legitimate problem? you're not worried about getting the flu every day of the year, but that doesn't mean you won't consider getting a flu shot or not during flu season, even tho technically you could catch it any day of the year.

There have been several shootings. What I'm "targeting" is people are concentrating on the wrong people. Penalize the law abiding citizens for the very few leagls gun issues/problems. Makes zero sense. I hear people get rid of guns...guns are stupid...fuck guns....it's all propaganda.


Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.

jimc3

DS1119 wrote:

Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.

you keep saying this is if it's an absloute incredulity that of the 40 people currently on the board (of which a small minority post in AMT, what, a dozen tops?), not a one has a) read your post and b) been affected by gun violence today.

you could get a dozen gang-bangers in a room at the end of the day and there's even a decent chance they weren't in a gunfight that day.

but you seem amazed that a handful of message board geeks holed up inside on their laptops hasn't cheated death today.

c'mon let's debate the issues. this is fucking tiring.

DS1119

jimc3 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.

you keep saying this is if it's an absloute incredulity that of the 40 people currently on the board (of which a small minority post in AMT, what, a dozen tops?), not a one has a) read your post and b) been affected by gun violence today.

you could get a dozen gang-bangers in a room at the end of the day and there's even a decent chance they weren't in a gunfight that day.

but you seem amazed that a handful of message board geeks holed up inside on their laptops hasn't cheated death today.

c'mon let's debate the issues. this is fucking tiring.

And of those dozen gang bangers you referenced...how many have guns? Even all of them say they do? How many were legally obtained? I would say zero.

Who Princess

DS1119 wrote:

Still waiting for one persons legitimate story from today.

From today? December 21, 2012? That's the only timing that's acceptable?