What would it take to form a Tyrannical Govt in the USA?

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    Pandora and Gimme, you both need to stop commenting to each other, your bickering is what is derailing topic integrity and what gets threads closed.

    We're this close to making both of your accounts read-only for the holidays.........
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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    cosmokramer wrote:
    That is my take on the thing.
    The military is made up of... American Citizens. They are people... not robots. They have families and friends and do not kill fellow Americans to further a political party or corporate driven agenda. Yeah, they will kill in other lands against people whom have become demonized as evil... but, that is the American view, shared by many, many Americans. .
    I've had a similar thought and hope you're right...but have you seen (the first half of) Full Metal Jacket? What is your major malfunction, Private Pyle?!

    haha?
    Besides.. in order to have a Tyrannical Government... it would mean that all politicians would have to agree on it. When the fuck is THAT ever going to happen?
    Not so sure. Despots don't have elections and despots don't need consensus (i.e., the agreement of other politicians). Hell, they don't even need literal control of the military at first. They just need the strong perception thereof.
    That is how I can see things like the internment of the Japanese during WWII and the current treatment of Muslims in America... because that is a perception of a segment of the American people
    How exactly are Muslims "treated in America"? Outside of perhaps the mosque-in-downtown-Manhattan thing. And didn't that get approved anyhow?
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    The situations most people subscribe to are situations that happen under livable economic conditions. IF the economy fails, if the banks are not able to continue to support the fiat system as we know it we could fall into anarchy rather quickly.

    That is certainly a BIG if, but as most people say, I would rather have something and never need it, than need it and not have it. It is the reason that I drive around Minnesota with cold weather camping gear in my trunk. I have never and probably won't need it...but when I do, I will be god damn glad I have it.

    Sorry I split up your post here, but I wanted to focus in on two things. So there have been a few mentions of banks and economy breakdown. This, I dont know enough about...where's Inlet? Im sure there's more info out there on the results of this happening, I'll have to do some searching to see how quickly yhtat could happen and the results.

    I do like the saying "have something and never need it, than need it and not have it" in most circumstances...but just me personally, I'll try to find another way to get by rather than a gun. But maybe the campgear in the trunk would be a good escape. And gold as gimme said..
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cosmo wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I just see a tyrannical govt where we'd end up using arms to protect ourselves as nearly impossible because of the way our system is set up.

    Just like the conspiracy theorists of 9/11 -- the ones who suggest Bush or the govt might have organized the whole thing...he'd need to have hundreds if not, thousands of people follow his plan, without leaking it, discussing it, or ever uttering a peep. quite an elaborate cover up.

    How many hundreds of people in Washington and thousands in the military would have to go along with a plot where it became necessary for its citizens to stand up to them with their weapons?

    Not saying it coudnt happen, but whats the likelihood?
    ...
    That is my take on the thing.
    The military is made up of... American Citizens. They are people... not robots. They have families and friends and do not kill fellow Americans to further a political party or corporate driven agenda. Yeah, they will kill in other lands against people whom have become demonized as evil... but, that is the American view, shared by many, many Americans. That is how I can see things like the internment of the Japanese during WWII and the current treatment of Muslims in America... because that is a perception of a segment of the American people.
    Besides.. in order to have a Tyrannical Government... it would mean that all politicians would have to agree on it. When the fuck is THAT ever going to happen?

    Agreed, and I thought at first you were joking on your last 2 lines, but there might be some truth in the fact that politicians will never agree on anything! ha!
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    MotoDC wrote:
    How exactly are Muslims "treated in America"? Outside of perhaps the mosque-in-downtown-Manhattan thing. And didn't that get approved anyhow?
    ...
    Clue: Read just about anything posted by Aerial regarding Muslims. The source is typically FOX News or one of its affiliates related. Keep in mind, 'FOX News is America's Most Watched Source for News'.
    If it were up to a portion of Americans... the Muslims (and Muslimish loking people) would be rounded up and shipped back to where they came from... which those idiot Americans would be surprized to hear... cities across America.
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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    where's Inlet
    Ha, been wondering that myself. Also, where's Godfather? And where's Prince of Dorkness? I feel like I missed some big dramatic thread where everbody got banned. :lol:
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Cosmo wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    How exactly are Muslims "treated in America"? Outside of perhaps the mosque-in-downtown-Manhattan thing. And didn't that get approved anyhow?
    ...
    Clue: Read just about anything posted by Aerial regarding Muslims. The source is typically FOX News or one of its affiliates related. Keep in mind, 'FOX News is America's Most Watched Source for News'.
    If it were up to a portion of Americans... the Muslims (and Muslimish loking people) would be rounded up and shipped back to where they came from... which those idiot Americans would be surprized to hear... cities across America.
    That's a pretty big logical leap you're making to get from there to 'Muslims aren't treated well in America'. At best, you could say that SOME portion of Americans harbor a bias against Muslims. How many and to what extent they'd actually act on that bias is far from clear.

    But I seem to find myself again arguing a point that is way tangential to the thread. I'll stop.

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