What would it take to form a Tyrannical Govt in the USA?

JonnyPistachio
JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson

Just curious, of the folks who take this literally, if you are really preparing for this, how do you see it unfolding?

Could it really come to a point that me and my neighbor need to ban up with our personal arsenals to keep ourselves free?

I'm not being a smartass here, I'm really trying to envision how this would evolve from where we are today, that we would need to stand up and physically fight them off. Does Obama convince Biden and congress that people should be forced to give up certain rights under violent threat to his people? And then they order the military to place us in FEMA camps? and the military does this without asking any questions? How does this evolution exactly take place?
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    rush limbaugh in the white house...HELLO??!?!???!
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    goingtoverona wrote:
    rush limbaugh in the white house...HELLO??!?!???!

    :lol: ok besides that?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A real financial crisis would start it, one where there was a run on the banks and that lead to runaway inflation.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson

    Just curious, of the folks who take this literally, if you are really preparing for this, how do you see it unfolding?

    Could it really come to a point that me and my neighbor need to ban up with our personal arsenals to keep ourselves free?

    I'm not being a smartass here, I'm really trying to envision how this would evolve from where we are today, that we would need to stand up and physically fight them off. Does Obama convince Biden and congress that people should be forced to give up certain rights under violent threat to his people? And then they order the military to place us in FEMA camps? and the military does this without asking any questions? How does this evolution exactly take place?
    apparently it happened when a guy with the last name obama became commander in chief, and the sane among us had out heads in the sand and missed it...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It started long before that.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    unsung wrote:
    It started long before that.
    how are you personally being oppressed?

    serious question.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Excessive taxation, lost wealth through inflation, lost wealth through quantitative easing. Same as you.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    op·pres·sion

    Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
    The state of being subject to such treatment or control.

    just want to put out the definition of oppression for people.

    is taxation cruel or unjust treatment or is it a fact of living in a country?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    unsung wrote:
    Excessive taxation, lost wealth through inflation, lost wealth through quantitative easing. Same as you.
    i don't agree with anything you are saying in this post. i do not think my taxes are excessive. and i don't view everything in regard to wealth, or lost wealth. so i do not feel oppressed. maybe if you didn't see things the way you choose to view them then you would not come off as being so paranoid of a boogeyman government.

    life is too short to waste time worrying about things that are out of my control.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    fife wrote:
    op·pres·sion

    Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
    The state of being subject to such treatment or control.

    just want to put out the definition of oppression for people.

    is taxation cruel or unjust treatment or is it a fact of living in a country?
    some on here view taxation as illegal, so yeah...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:

    life is too short to waste time worrying about things that are out of my control.


    Life is too short not to. Do you always simply accept things that seem out of your control? Do you never work to try to fix them?
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    op·pres·sion

    Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
    The state of being subject to such treatment or control.

    just want to put out the definition of oppression for people.

    is taxation cruel or unjust treatment or is it a fact of living in a country?
    some on here view taxation as illegal, so yeah...

    fair enough, i think i bit of prospective is needed in many places.
  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    Some of you here are real kooks, dishonest at best, terrified fanatics at worst. The real worrying thing is that the most paranoid on these boards, themselves own fire arms.

    Horrifying

    I remember dunkman once saying all you gun nuts head off to Idaho with your guns and have it out with each other. I laughed back then, I now think it might be one of the most reasonable plans put forth on here
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Moonpig wrote:
    Some of you here are real kooks, dishonest at best, terrified fanatics at worst. The real worrying thing is that the most paranoid on these boards, themselves own fire arms.

    Horrifying

    I remember dunkman once saying all you gun nuts head off to Idaho with your guns and have it out with each other. I laughed back then, I now think it might be one of the most reasonable plans put forth on here
    Your negative statements are outrageous broad sweeping generalizations
    towards people in another country. :?
    Where do you come off with such a superior attitude and act like you personally
    know anyone here? You don't.
    Are the anti gun people also anti people who own guns, people?
    This with great judgement. Not a bit of understanding just a broad brush of bias
    that they will not even see nor understand the individual in us all.

    I guess I could draw conclusion about foreigners too from just this.
    But I won't, I've come to love many. Love any gun owners lately?

    Oh in case you're coming back with me being another
    kooky, dishonest, terrified, fanatical, paranoid gun owner, I am not...
    do you listen to how you treat others? Isn't it written somewhere about casting stones?
    You got a barrel of 'em,
    look out upon leaving this world you will feel each and everyone you threw.
    Ouch!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    pandora wrote:
    Your negative statements are outrageous broad sweeping generalizations
    towards people in another country. :?
    Where do you come off with such a superior attitude and act like you personally
    know anyone here? You don't.
    Are the anti gun people also anti people who own guns, people?
    This with great judgement. Not a bit of understanding just a broad brush of bias
    that they will not even see nor understand the individual in us all.

    I guess I could draw conclusion about foreigners too from just this.
    But I won't, I've come to love many. Love any gun owners lately?

    Oh in case you're coming back with me being another
    kooky, dishonest, terrified, fanatical, paranoid gun owner, I am not...
    do you listen to how you treat others? Isn't it written somewhere about casting stones?
    You got a barrel of 'em,
    look out upon leaving this world you will feel each and everyone you threw.
    Ouch!

    pot meet kettle...

    ;)
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Your negative statements are outrageous broad sweeping generalizations
    towards people in another country. :?
    Where do you come off with such a superior attitude and act like you personally
    know anyone here? You don't.
    Are the anti gun people also anti people who own guns, people?
    This with great judgement. Not a bit of understanding just a broad brush of bias
    that they will not even see nor understand the individual in us all.

    I guess I could draw conclusion about foreigners too from just this.
    But I won't, I've come to love many. Love any gun owners lately?

    Oh in case you're coming back with me being another
    kooky, dishonest, terrified, fanatical, paranoid gun owner, I am not...
    do you listen to how you treat others? Isn't it written somewhere about casting stones?
    You got a barrel of 'em,
    look out upon leaving this world you will feel each and everyone you threw.
    Ouch!

    pot meet kettle...

    ;)
    At least I try to be positive and avoid name calling... you too right?
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    A real financial crisis would start it, one where there was a run on the banks and that lead to runaway inflation.
    ...
    We had one of those... in 1929.
    We survived as a nation.
    ...
    Personally... i am NOT going to kill people just because my 401K tanks. I believe America is a better nation than that.
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    unsung wrote:
    A real financial crisis would start it, one where there was a run on the banks and that lead to runaway inflation.

    Hasn't that already happened? Maybe our current way of living is the real problem. Maybe creating a capitalist world in which money is king is the problem....
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,814
    riotgrl wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    A real financial crisis would start it, one where there was a run on the banks and that lead to runaway inflation.

    Hasn't that already happened? Maybe our current way of living is the real problem. Maybe creating a capitalist world in which money is king is the problem....
    master and we as slave.

    Money is a means to an end. NOT the end all be all.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    pandora wrote:
    At least I try to be positive and avoid name calling... you too right?
    no you don't.

    you derail a majority of threads by making it about you, and you take it into a spiritual discussion all while passively aggressively taking jabs at people, but you make it ok by adding one of these ;)

    countless locked threads will show that.

    this is why i only read your posts where you quote me or speak directly to me.

    now back on topic.

    what tyrannical government is everyone so afraid of??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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