I thought it was making fun of gun owners....
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
I thought it was making fun of gun owners....
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
Sadly, gun control isn't looming.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
I thought it was making fun of gun owners....
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
Why is that plausible? Wouldn't part of any gun control laws instituted be the requirement to hand in any banned weapons and ammo for those weapons, as happened here in the mid 90's? Otherwise what on earth would be the point of gun control in the first place? It kind of defeats the purpose of making any new gun laws if people who already have guns are allowed to keep them?
We regularly have amnesties here where illegal weapons, not just guns, are handed in with no fear of recrimination, and it works. Just last month an amnesty concluded that was I think 3 months long- can't remember what the exact number was handed in, but it was very successful. You can probably google the statistics, but it happens frequently, and we have a much much lower rate of just crime in general, but specifically gun injuries and deaths. I get that it sucks for law abiding citizens that would lose their weapons, but the greater good has to come first. Isn't their something in your constitution that says something about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few? Or something like that? To me that says that because of the FACT that guns are too easily accessible over there, the needs of the greater public to be safe, outweighs the needs of people to own a gun just because.
You know it's funny - my husband is American, I have been over there now 4 times. He is from Minnesota - I love that place, it's so beautiful and the people are friendly and appear to have great morals and ethics that I find many times missing here in Australia. I have frequently said to anyone that will listen - as soon as we can afford it, we are moving over there - the education system is better, the people believe in being polite and it really is kind of like living in a movie in a lot of regards.
BUT, the fact that in light of this situation, so many Americans are saying that they feel that more guns are the answer, that they need them just because they feel like their civil rights are being taken away if they can't have them, that they cannot see the greater good that would come from LESS weapons, makes me reconsider.
How on earth would I feel safe sending my children to school or anywhere really, if teachers had guns? Or if I knew that my kids' friends parents had a stockpile of guns in their home just because they could? For no other reason than that if someone broke into their house they wanted to shoot them with a high powered weapon of some sort and kill them dead? It absolutely baffles me that seemingly sane normal people have this kind of mindset!
You know it's funny - my husband is American, I have been over there now 4 times. He is from Minnesota - I love that place, it's so beautiful and the people are friendly and appear to have great morals and ethics that I find many times missing here in Australia. I have frequently said to anyone that will listen - as soon as we can afford it, we are moving over there - the education system is better, the people believe in being polite and it really is kind of like living in a movie in a lot of regards.
BUT, the fact that in light of this situation, so many Americans are saying that they feel that more guns are the answer, that they need them just because they feel like their civil rights are being taken away if they can't have them, that they cannot see the greater good that would come from LESS weapons, makes me reconsider.
How on earth would I feel safe sending my children to school or anywhere really, if teachers had guns? Or if I knew that my kids' friends parents had a stockpile of guns in their home just because they could? For no other reason than that if someone broke into their house they wanted to shoot them with a high powered weapon of some sort and kill them dead? It absolutely baffles me that seemingly sane normal people have this kind of mindset!
I'm with you, I just can't fathom the mentality of the need to own A gun!
Where does that need come from?
You know it's funny - my husband is American, I have been over there now 4 times. He is from Minnesota - I love that place, it's so beautiful and the people are friendly and appear to have great morals and ethics that I find many times missing here in Australia. I have frequently said to anyone that will listen - as soon as we can afford it, we are moving over there - the education system is better, the people believe in being polite and it really is kind of like living in a movie in a lot of regards.
BUT, the fact that in light of this situation, so many Americans are saying that they feel that more guns are the answer, that they need them just because they feel like their civil rights are being taken away if they can't have them, that they cannot see the greater good that would come from LESS weapons, makes me reconsider.
How on earth would I feel safe sending my children to school or anywhere really, if teachers had guns? Or if I knew that my kids' friends parents had a stockpile of guns in their home just because they could? For no other reason than that if someone broke into their house they wanted to shoot them with a high powered weapon of some sort and kill them dead? It absolutely baffles me that seemingly sane normal people have this kind of mindset!
My husband is from Australia (huge Geelong Cats fan) and was just saying today that if they start arming teachers he doesn't want to raise a kid here in the US. We'd have to move to Australia and raise the child there. Such different cultures when it comes to guns. Sadly, I think our country often values the rights of a few over the good of the whole. I think that's a big part of the problem.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
My husband is from Australia (huge Geelong Cats fan) and was just saying today that if they start arming teachers he doesn't want to raise a kid here in the US. We'd have to move to Australia and raise the child there. .
I know many families where one of the parents is American and the other a different nationality who chose to live and raise a family in the 'other' country (especially city dwellers) because of this kind of culture.
My husband is from Australia (huge Geelong Cats fan) and was just saying today that if they start arming teachers he doesn't want to raise a kid here in the US. We'd have to move to Australia and raise the child there. Such different cultures when it comes to guns. Sadly, I think our country often values the rights of a few over the good of the whole. I think that's a big part of the problem.
I keep coming back to the main points of a book I read not too long ago called Confucius Lives Next Door. The author recounts the differences between western and eastern culture and your comment made me think of it. We, as Americans, would rather have our individual rights rather than focus on the collective whereas in many eastern cultures the collective is the main focus. I certainly think that we could learn a few things from the East about how to promote a collective culture that values all members rather than an individualistic one that values the rights of a few.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I thought it was making fun of gun owners....
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
Why is that plausible? Wouldn't part of any gun control laws instituted be the requirement to hand in any banned weapons and ammo for those weapons, as happened here in the mid 90's? Otherwise what on earth would be the point of gun control in the first place? It kind of defeats the purpose of making any new gun laws if people who already have guns are allowed to keep them? We regularly have amnesties here where illegal weapons, not just guns, are handed in with no fear of recrimination, and it works. Just last month an amnesty concluded that was I think 3 months long- can't remember what the exact number was handed in, but it was very successful. You can probably google the statistics, but it happens frequently, and we have a much much lower rate of just crime in general, but specifically gun injuries and deaths. I get that it sucks for law abiding citizens that would lose their weapons, but the greater good has to come first. Isn't their something in your constitution that says something about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few? Or something like that? To me that says that because of the FACT that guns are too easily accessible over there, the needs of the greater public to be safe, outweighs the needs of people to own a gun just because.
Grandfathered in was what I was thinking.
Yes we have that too.
The Supreme court ruled 'reasonable' control.
Blows my mind... no help discussed for the mentally ill. If this young man was not suffering
there would be no dead, no matter how many guns are about.
It is not a gun problem, it is people problem. Lets go to the root of the problem and get people
the help they need. Wait that is just too easy. Lets instead take peoples rights away.
But it won't be easy to make guns disappear. Legality will mean nothing.
Did you have your toke today thought so.
I thought it was making fun of gun owners....
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
Perhaps some should consider other countries as options. They want political
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
Perhaps some should consider other countries as options. They want political
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Perhaps some should consider other countries as options. They want political
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
good theories,but im more practical..
so,pandora,a quick question
do you agree that something need to change or not..??
yes or no?.change or stay the same..?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
do you agree that something need to change or not..??
yes or no?.change or stay the same..?
Change. As long as you don't take away the right to wear a gun...
they can all wear fake plastic ones...problem solve..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Perhaps some should consider other countries as options. They want political
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
What a load of old cobblers.
Yah. Agreed. I mean... come on... why would a country or person or business invest in change when things are going so great?
This was a really polite way of saying, "If you don't like it then fuk off!"
I know several people who own guns. I don't like it BUT some of these people are my friends anyway. The ones who are most interested in SOLUTIONS to violence are people who respect the power of a gun, the responsibility of owning a gun, and the fact that there are people who see how destructively guns are often used and would like to see guns go away. Those gun owners I'm referring to are quiet about their gun ownership. The do not go on line and boast about their gun ownership. They do not go on line and rant and rave about their "right" to own guns.
Think so much of your incisive arguments that you feel the need to copy/paste them now? This particular thread is unnecessary at best, but to suggest that those of us disagreeing with the anti-gun lobby on AMT are merely "ranting and raving" about our right (love how you put that in quotes by the way) to own arms is just a childish, borderline ad-hominem trick to undermine the opposing side's argument w/o having to put forth one of your own.
It's also downright humorous that, while posting on a political forum (a LOT), you attempt to demean others for doing so, merely because their viewpoint opposes yours.
My husband is from Australia (huge Geelong Cats fan) and was just saying today that if they start arming teachers he doesn't want to raise a kid here in the US. We'd have to move to Australia and raise the child there. Such different cultures when it comes to guns. Sadly, I think our country often values the rights of a few over the good of the whole. I think that's a big part of the problem.
I keep coming back to the main points of a book I read not too long ago called Confucius Lives Next Door. The author recounts the differences between western and eastern culture and your comment made me think of it. We, as Americans, would rather have our individual rights rather than focus on the collective whereas in many eastern cultures the collective is the main focus. I certainly think that we could learn a few things from the East about how to promote a collective culture that values all members rather than an individualistic one that values the rights of a few.
I think this a big piece of the phenomenon we are seeing. I keep hearing people focusing on the need for better access to mental health care. I couldn't agree more that better access is needed, but would that have helped here? I don't know yet because I don't know the full history of the shooter. From what I've heard so far, the shooter may have had Asperger's, which has no connection to preplanned violence of this nature. He also may have had a personality disorder. No access to mental health care is going to fix that, because it runs so deep, it has to do with the makeup of the person and their way of relating to the world around them, not an illness that can be treated. The focus needs to be on prevention and I think the focus on individual rights over the collective group plays a big role in that. Inherent in that way of thinking is a lack of empathy, which is a huge part of the personality disorders that are correlated to violence of this nature.
Sadly we cannot predict violence. We can do our best risk assessment, but that can only assess a person's risk for violence at a given point in time. A change in one factor (a loss of a relationship or a job, going off of medication, a death, etc) can change the level of risk within a matter of hours. So what's the answer? Lock up people because something could change that would tip them in the direction of violence? Take away the rights of people who have no criminal record or documented history of violence because of what they might do? Our laws don't allow for that. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and as we've seen with some of the shooters (particularly the young ones), there wasn't much of a documented history of past behavior.
So we have all these ingredients, a society that values the individual over the well-being of the collective, undiagnosed and untreated mental health issues, laws limiting what can be done even if there is a diagnosed mental illness that correlates with preplanned violence, and relatively easily access to a tool that can wipe out 26 lives in a matter of 2 minutes. There's a lot of ingredients there...many I'm sure that I missed...and changing one can change the whole recipe for disaster.
Sometimes we do have to look to other countries to see if they see something that we're missing. It's important to step outside of the box sometimes and realize that our way of doing things isn't always the best or most effective way. When you love your country you want to better it, not see it falling apart at the seams and just accept that this is our way.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Yah. Agreed. I mean... come on... why would a country or person or business invest in change when things are going so great?
This was a really polite way of saying, "If you don't like it then fuk off!"
Even 'fuck' off Joke aside, that shows a certain general attitude, doesn't it? Don't like it, piss off. You don't love your country, we don't need you. Go check out the 'socialist' countries out there. Don't try to change it. Like a company owner - "those are the rules I based my company on. Oh... it's causing accidents and you are being maimed or some employees get sick because of this? Well no, I won't consider making safety changes, so don't bother. If you don't like my rules, leave and find another job, I've got 100 people lined up who can replace you."
Perhaps some should consider other countries as options. They want political
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
good theories,but im more practical..
so,pandora,a quick question
do you agree that something need to change or not..??
yes or no?.change or stay the same..?
Readily available mental help at little or no cost ...
this is the best way to save lives.
Our culture turns it's back on the mentally ill. They are labeled and meant to feel less
and disregarded. So many of our homeless, lost. All the suicides, people lost.
These rare but horrific killing sprees, young men lost.
The other violence in my country, much rooted in depression.
Families falling apart.
And no D you are going for a quick answer based on your country not mine.
It is not practical to think guns are to be banned in my country.
I can only hope it is practical to get help for the lost souls of mental illness. One would think everyone would be on board for that
because this is why we have killers, not the guns.
Tell that to my neighbor, he and his family are alive because he had a gun
to defend their lives. And in the process we now have three home invaders in prison.
Hopefully with the past crimes they committed they are in for life. .
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Got a gun fact I got two / That's O.K. man 'cause I love god /
like sarcasm or tongue in cheek.
After every shooting more guns are sold. Stocking up on assault weapons
and ammo when gun control might be looming is certainly plausible.
History has shown this yes?
Sadly, gun control isn't looming.
Have fun with all your guns over there HH!
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Why is that plausible? Wouldn't part of any gun control laws instituted be the requirement to hand in any banned weapons and ammo for those weapons, as happened here in the mid 90's? Otherwise what on earth would be the point of gun control in the first place? It kind of defeats the purpose of making any new gun laws if people who already have guns are allowed to keep them?
We regularly have amnesties here where illegal weapons, not just guns, are handed in with no fear of recrimination, and it works. Just last month an amnesty concluded that was I think 3 months long- can't remember what the exact number was handed in, but it was very successful. You can probably google the statistics, but it happens frequently, and we have a much much lower rate of just crime in general, but specifically gun injuries and deaths. I get that it sucks for law abiding citizens that would lose their weapons, but the greater good has to come first. Isn't their something in your constitution that says something about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few? Or something like that? To me that says that because of the FACT that guns are too easily accessible over there, the needs of the greater public to be safe, outweighs the needs of people to own a gun just because.
You know it's funny - my husband is American, I have been over there now 4 times. He is from Minnesota - I love that place, it's so beautiful and the people are friendly and appear to have great morals and ethics that I find many times missing here in Australia. I have frequently said to anyone that will listen - as soon as we can afford it, we are moving over there - the education system is better, the people believe in being polite and it really is kind of like living in a movie in a lot of regards.
BUT, the fact that in light of this situation, so many Americans are saying that they feel that more guns are the answer, that they need them just because they feel like their civil rights are being taken away if they can't have them, that they cannot see the greater good that would come from LESS weapons, makes me reconsider.
How on earth would I feel safe sending my children to school or anywhere really, if teachers had guns? Or if I knew that my kids' friends parents had a stockpile of guns in their home just because they could? For no other reason than that if someone broke into their house they wanted to shoot them with a high powered weapon of some sort and kill them dead? It absolutely baffles me that seemingly sane normal people have this kind of mindset!
I'm with you, I just can't fathom the mentality of the need to own A gun!
Where does that need come from?
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Great opinion piece written by former Australian Prime Minister John Howard
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I know many families where one of the parents is American and the other a different nationality who chose to live and raise a family in the 'other' country (especially city dwellers) because of this kind of culture.
I keep coming back to the main points of a book I read not too long ago called Confucius Lives Next Door. The author recounts the differences between western and eastern culture and your comment made me think of it. We, as Americans, would rather have our individual rights rather than focus on the collective whereas in many eastern cultures the collective is the main focus. I certainly think that we could learn a few things from the East about how to promote a collective culture that values all members rather than an individualistic one that values the rights of a few.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Yes we have that too.
The Supreme court ruled 'reasonable' control.
Blows my mind... no help discussed for the mentally ill. If this young man was not suffering
there would be no dead, no matter how many guns are about.
It is not a gun problem, it is people problem. Lets go to the root of the problem and get people
the help they need. Wait that is just too easy. Lets instead take peoples rights away.
But it won't be easy to make guns disappear. Legality will mean nothing.
Did you have your toke today
solutions like that of other countries. They disregard our Constitution and have suggested
it is outdated. That it matters not it's principals is what our country was founded on.
Perhaps these people would be happier living in a country where gun ownership is banned.
Where the government is large and takes care of its people. Instead of the people
taking care of government. We see how that is working abroad though.
Our country would certainly be less divided. But compromise is the common sense answer.
Not everyone has that opportunity to up and leave but if you do it is a good solution.
Go make a new home if you do not love your country and it's basic principals.
For me the answer will never be removing guns but addressing the obvious
cultural problems and the lost souls our families are making. Souls angry
without proper care. If there were none we wouldn't be talking.
If there were none guns would not be needed only enjoyed.
What a load of old cobblers.
good theories,but im more practical..
so,pandora,a quick question
do you agree that something need to change or not..??
yes or no?.change or stay the same..?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Change. As long as you don't take away the right to wear a gun...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I say NERF!
Yah. Agreed. I mean... come on... why would a country or person or business invest in change when things are going so great?
This was a really polite way of saying, "If you don't like it then fuk off!"
It's also downright humorous that, while posting on a political forum (a LOT), you attempt to demean others for doing so, merely because their viewpoint opposes yours.
Sadly we cannot predict violence. We can do our best risk assessment, but that can only assess a person's risk for violence at a given point in time. A change in one factor (a loss of a relationship or a job, going off of medication, a death, etc) can change the level of risk within a matter of hours. So what's the answer? Lock up people because something could change that would tip them in the direction of violence? Take away the rights of people who have no criminal record or documented history of violence because of what they might do? Our laws don't allow for that. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and as we've seen with some of the shooters (particularly the young ones), there wasn't much of a documented history of past behavior.
So we have all these ingredients, a society that values the individual over the well-being of the collective, undiagnosed and untreated mental health issues, laws limiting what can be done even if there is a diagnosed mental illness that correlates with preplanned violence, and relatively easily access to a tool that can wipe out 26 lives in a matter of 2 minutes. There's a lot of ingredients there...many I'm sure that I missed...and changing one can change the whole recipe for disaster.
Sometimes we do have to look to other countries to see if they see something that we're missing. It's important to step outside of the box sometimes and realize that our way of doing things isn't always the best or most effective way. When you love your country you want to better it, not see it falling apart at the seams and just accept that this is our way.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Come buy everyone!
Even 'fuck' off
Nice....
There are numerous facets to this issue - mental illness is just one of them.
this is the best way to save lives.
Our culture turns it's back on the mentally ill. They are labeled and meant to feel less
and disregarded. So many of our homeless, lost. All the suicides, people lost.
These rare but horrific killing sprees, young men lost.
The other violence in my country, much rooted in depression.
Families falling apart.
And no D you are going for a quick answer based on your country not mine.
It is not practical to think guns are to be banned in my country.
I can only hope it is practical to get help for the lost souls of mental illness.
One would think everyone would be on board for that
because this is why we have killers, not the guns.
to defend their lives. And in the process we now have three home invaders in prison.
Hopefully with the past crimes they committed they are in for life. .