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If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
Thanks!
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That's what I've always found works as well. Right now I'm running a Project Carbon Debut (great turn table, only problem is having to lift off the platter and manually move the band to go from 33 1/3 RPM to 45 RPM and back for different speeds) directly into a Marantz 2220 B tuner/amp and out a pair of Polk Audio TSi100's via Monster cables. Simple and direct. The only downside are the speakers- though smaller bookshelf sized, they push the low ends a too hard for my tastes, especially in my small room.reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
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How/where does Needledoctor recommend components/setups? Is it on the site, or do you have to send someone there an email?brianlux said:
That's what I've always found works as well. Right now I'm running a Project Carbon Debut (great turn table, only problem is having to lift off the platter and manually move the band to go from 33 1/3 RPM to 45 RPM and back for different speeds) directly into a Marantz 2220 B tuner/amp and out a pair of Polk Audio TSi100's via Monster cables. Simple and direct. The only downside are the speakers- though smaller bookshelf sized, they push the low ends a too hard for my tastes, especially in my small room.reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
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Send them an email, Needledoctor is great. I have bought a few components from them.dankind said:
How/where does Needledoctor recommend components/setups? Is it on the site, or do you have to send someone there an email?brianlux said:
That's what I've always found works as well. Right now I'm running a Project Carbon Debut (great turn table, only problem is having to lift off the platter and manually move the band to go from 33 1/3 RPM to 45 RPM and back for different speeds) directly into a Marantz 2220 B tuner/amp and out a pair of Polk Audio TSi100's via Monster cables. Simple and direct. The only downside are the speakers- though smaller bookshelf sized, they push the low ends a too hard for my tastes, especially in my small room.reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
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I do have a decent TT with a quality cartridge, a good receiver, and good speakers, but I was told specifically by needledoctor that a good preamp would make the sound even better (and no, I don't suspect that they said that just because they hoped to sell me a preamp, lol)..... I'm just trying to get the best sound I can out of what I have. Do you think it would make absolutely no difference? My other option would be to upgrade from red ortofon to blue.... do you think that would make more of a difference?reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
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Yeah Brian, they will answer any questions you have. The email is info@needledoctor.comMedozK said:
Send them an email, Needledoctor is great. I have bought a few components from them.dankind said:
How/where does Needledoctor recommend components/setups? Is it on the site, or do you have to send someone there an email?brianlux said:
That's what I've always found works as well. Right now I'm running a Project Carbon Debut (great turn table, only problem is having to lift off the platter and manually move the band to go from 33 1/3 RPM to 45 RPM and back for different speeds) directly into a Marantz 2220 B tuner/amp and out a pair of Polk Audio TSi100's via Monster cables. Simple and direct. The only downside are the speakers- though smaller bookshelf sized, they push the low ends a too hard for my tastes, especially in my small room.reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
Thanks!
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A buddy of mine just got one and loves it. I honestly haven't heard a bad thing about them-decodified- said:thanks for the feedback, and what about the uturn?
They really are a great company. I emailed them numerous times last year when I was in the market for my TT. Not only do they respond quickly, they also write personal responses with good information. What I really liked about them was they didn't try to upsell me. I told them my budget and gave them a few models I was looking into, and much to my surprise, they actually recommended the one that cost the least. Seems as though they really care about their customers getting the best bang for their buck.MedozK said:
Send them an email, Needledoctor is great. I have bought a few components from them.dankind said:
How/where does Needledoctor recommend components/setups? Is it on the site, or do you have to send someone there an email?brianlux said:
That's what I've always found works as well. Right now I'm running a Project Carbon Debut (great turn table, only problem is having to lift off the platter and manually move the band to go from 33 1/3 RPM to 45 RPM and back for different speeds) directly into a Marantz 2220 B tuner/amp and out a pair of Polk Audio TSi100's via Monster cables. Simple and direct. The only downside are the speakers- though smaller bookshelf sized, they push the low ends a too hard for my tastes, especially in my small room.reesdog said:
If you don't need one PJ_Soul then why buy one? Wouldn't a pre-amp just put something inbetween your turntable and receiver that you don't really require? I think there's better ways to upgrade without a pre-amp. In my humble opinion, on the limited amount I know is that you need a decent TT with a quality cartridge, decent amp/receiver and of course good speakers. That's it.PJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
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Anyone have luck finding a speed box for the Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC? I've read there are compatibility issues with the voltage.0
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I don't have it but have read good things about it. And their customer service got back to me in under an hour via email. Lightning fast!-decodified- said:Anyone has the U-turn? good quality?
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Anyone have other things to say about Marantz or Harmon Kardon receivers? I want a receiver only for playing music. No need for it to have A/V capability like for running a Blu Ray player to a surround system.www.cluthelee.com0
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I own a few '70's era Marantz receivers and I have restored and sold about a dozen of them. I recommend the 2245 and 2270 if you're looking to go the vintage route. (These can be found totally restored on auction sites all day long.)2-feign-reluctance said:Anyone have other things to say about Marantz or Harmon Kardon receivers? I want a receiver only for playing music. No need for it to have A/V capability like for running a Blu Ray player to a surround system.
The new Marantz stereo receivers are nice, but not entirely worth the premium paid over some of their competitors, IMO. For my money, regarding new-production receivers, Yamaha is the company to beat.
The only experiences I have with Harmon/Kardon receivers have been largely negative. They are notoriously hard to work on and I don't find the sound or build quality is representative of the brand cache' that they seem to enjoy.
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@PJ_Soul.... I used to have the same TT as you but i sold it and now I have an original Yamaha TT from early 80s with a 70s era Shure cartridge. sounds really good but after I added a tube pre-amp.... sounds even better. I would recommend the Bellari VP129 or VP130. usually retails for about $250.00 but you can sometimes find a deal on Ebay. I also use a Mullard tube. beautiful warm, quiet and neutralPJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
Thanks!
I tried it with the table you had and it sounded really good with that setup too.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
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I have one and I am very satisfied with it.-decodified- said:Anyone has the U-turn? good quality?
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Thanks!lolobugg said:
@PJ_Soul.... I used to have the same TT as you but i sold it and now I have an original Yamaha TT from early 80s with a 70s era Shure cartridge. sounds really good but after I added a tube pre-amp.... sounds even better. I would recommend the Bellari VP129 or VP130. usually retails for about $250.00 but you can sometimes find a deal on Ebay. I also use a Mullard tube. beautiful warm, quiet and neutralPJ_Soul said:(this is a good thread - glad to see it resurrected)
I've been thinking about adding a preamp to my system. I don't need one, but think it will make the sound even better. Needledoctor recommended a Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp for my TT. But it's $300, and I would rather spend a lot less. Like $100 max. But I don't want to sacrifice quality. Anyone with a lot of knowledge about preamps know of my best option for much less money? Is there an issue with using older preamps with a nearly brand new system? I had problems with receivers and speakers when I got a new TT, so ended up getting everything new. I'm worried I could come across the same kind of old vs new compatibility issue with preamps.
Thanks!
I tried it with the table you had and it sounded really good with that setup too.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'd love some rec's on a straight up modern receiver (nothing vintage, or that has to be modified) that is a direct connect to a TT, CD player, and tape deck. I don't need any A/V capabilities for home theater use. Would be strictly for music (vinyl, cd, tape).www.cluthelee.com0
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do you have the basic one or the plus, how's your setup if you don't mind sharing, thanks!keeponrisin said:
I have one and I am very satisfied with it.-decodified- said:Anyone has the U-turn? good quality?
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Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
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do you have the basic one or the plus, how's your setup if you don't mind sharing, thanks!keeponrisin said:
I have one and I am very satisfied with it.-decodified- said:Anyone has the U-turn? good quality?
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
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I have the plus. As far as the speakers are concerned I used some recommended on their website. I will need to invest in a better amp as the one I purchased on Amazon doesn't push enough. One for each speaker I purchased may do the trick. My puppy did a number on all my wiring last week, so I may need to reinvest in speakers and amps. Sorry I cannot give more detail. I may try to look at the specific brands if I find the chance this evening. The dimensions are nice as it comfortably sits on an end table and obviously has a modern look. Assembly was far easier than I imagined when unpackaging the equipment.-decodified- said:
do you have the basic one or the plus, how's your setup if you don't mind sharing, thanks!keeponrisin said:
I have one and I am very satisfied with it.-decodified- said:Anyone has the U-turn? good quality?
Found the link:
http://uturnaudio.com/stereo-setup
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Hey,
Hope no one minds if I throw some questions into this thread but theres a wealth of info in here so figured its a good place to start. I'm a vinyl newbie and I'm debating between two cheap turntables ($100-$200 range) to start - Victrola and Crosley.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these? Or any other suggestions in this price range?
I'd also like to add external speakers to them.And ideally looking for that vintage look as these two have so it fits in our home.
Appreciate any feedback!
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/victrola-6-in-1-bluetooth-entertainment-center-mahogany/7786072.p?skuId=7786072
http://www.target.com/p/crosley-rochester-5-in-1-entertainment-center-paprika-cr66-pa/-/A-103829550
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