brianlux
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
How about a program where someone on welfare (who is not physically or mentally disabled) receives 80% of what the currently collect and can earn the later 20% by attending a skills workshop for 8 hours a week?
That way someone is not deprived of benefits and have incentive to increase their skill set to help with future employment opportunities.
Thoughts?
:thumbup:
Hellalujah!!!!! WOW We got a response that was positive, creative, constructive and meaningful! HOOT!
I love it! I love this idea. Good job there Hedo!
Well thank you, sir, but credit goes to Mr. P :P
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edited December 2012
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
Cmon guys wow! Not one good response except just now we got one by Hedonist!
Sometimes i wonder about the people on here......This post is not about my words or context .....its a simple post about creative ideas from you, the reader. If you cannot see the positive, then you must be rigid, ignorant or just inept! Its almost like people are yelling at me! Its almost like they didnt give any thought to anything before responding, or even more revealing, their first thoughts were that of negativity, judgement and partisanship. Its time to sit back, take a deep breath and think things through. We need inspiration here on AMT and here in America! For those of you around the world.....America will be the shining city on the hill one day again. I have hope and I have faith in our future because America is Good!
Pandora, thanks for seeing the positive! Brian, I know you are smart, why such a response is beyond me! Gimmie...dont be so rigid! Red Rock, cmon man jeez! Go Beavers....we need more cooperation and less rigidity!
Ok its time to get back to work on the OP for creative ideas!
Another idea that I have is that we have computerized welfare and food stamps. No more food stamp cards for cigs, cash, alcohol, and drugs with your neighbors. You get a certain amount per month to use and its all on the computer. No more cards!
How about training our youth to be companions for the elderly....and have the elderly teach them wisdom while they are at it. How about a story or two? How about American History lesson? We need to understand our history and our past and our founding.
How about video games that teach our youth economics and common sense? I like this one!
Now from here on out....can we get one or two ideas?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
My last post above is a terrible post- yes a very negative one. It was an angry response and I should know better than to respond out of anger. I know there are people who care about the poor, even very rich people. But giving should be done with humility, not with pride. It's done better in private, or anonymously and the best things we do for others we do because we are just that way such that maybe we don't even realize we are doing them. Telling the poor to pay their "fair share" and making them out to be inferior does not help anyone.
Looking down on others is a classic move by those who are insecure about themselves and have no love in their life. Just look up the term "Bully".
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brianlux
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edited December 2012
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I grew up poor and Im still basically poor! I know poor more than most of you on here! I was on welfare for 5 years with my family when i was a child. My parents almost got divorced because of our poverty. This post was never to demonize the poor! LOL Cmon people! This post is to be constructive. I said in the OP that the rich will pay more and donate alot, the middle class pays more already, so what class and group is left to discuss? What group and class do we NEVER talk about? That would be the poor, lower class or the unfortunate! Ok my whole point was to find creative ways for that groupl to "lighten the load" and pay their "fair share". There is no reason for anyone to get emotional or angry cause this is a positive and constructive thread. So if you are ignorant, then just leave and dont come back, cause all you will do is derail the thread's potential.
Ok another good idea might be to STOP TRYING TO DERAIL THREADS! LOL
I believe we can do more as poor people that are able to do more.
What are the numbers of people who can physically do work, or serve that dont pay income taxes? I believe its about 70-100 million people! This thread is to find creative ways for these people to pay their 'fair share" and lighten the load! Does everyone get it?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
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brianlux
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edited December 2012
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
Fear4freedom, if you had not pretended America is better than the rest of the world, left God out of social and political issues and not viewed the poor in a degrading manner, I would be much more inclined to participate in sharing ways to help others. It's really difficult for me to get on board with being involved in doing something for others when the basic premise is "we are better than them", "they need to pay" up, "America rules", and "God is on our side". If there were less religion and patriotism and more quiet humility, you might draw a bigger crowd. Not that drawing a crowd should be the motive, of course.
This thread is nothing to do with other countries bud, wake up! Where is God in this thread? Where did I degrade the poor, cause i am poor! Where? Stay on topic and understand the meaning is to FIND CREATIVE WAYS for the group that does not pay income taxes....to do their fair share! If you are emotional and angry....then leave this post ....and dont come back! Simple!
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Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
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brianlux
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edited December 2012
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Post edited by brianlux on
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I grew up poor and Im still basically poor! I know poor more than most of you on here! I was on welfare for 5 years with my family when i was a child. My parents almost got divorced because of our poverty. This post was never to demonize the poor! LOL Cmon people! This post is to be constructive. I said in the OP that the rich will pay more and donate alot, the middle class pays more already, so what class and group is left to discuss? What group and class do we NEVER talk about? That would be the poor, lower class or the unfortunate! Ok my whole point was to find creative ways for that groupl to "lighten the load" and pay their "fair share". There is no reason for anyone to get emotional or angry cause this is a positive and constructive thread. So if you are ignorant, then just leave and dont come back, cause all you will do is derail the thread's potential.
Ok another good idea might be to STOP TRYING TO DERAIL THREADS! LOL
I believe we can do more as poor people that are able to do more.
What are the numbers of people who can physically do work, or serve that dont pay income taxes? I believe its about 70-100 million people! This thread is to find creative ways for these people to pay their 'fair share" and lighten the load! Does everyone get it?
I think you would have gotten a lot farther- speaking for myself, that is- if you had voiced the thread around an idea like, "how can we help the less fortunate to lead more productive, happy and fulfilled lives" rather than the "make the poor pay their fair share" approach. In my opinion, you derailed your own thread from the get-go. Or not.
You are taking my context from other threads and applying your opinions to this thread....very elementary! Stay on topic and be constructive! You cannot I see! All of a sudden you made this thread about YOUR feelings and YOUR opinions!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
I believe that last 10 responses are about Brian Lux's feelings and opinions....so Im sorry to anyone out there who may have an idea....if any! Talk about de railing a thread......i see your whole game bud! I think everyone should see it! Anyone here should be able to look past words and try to find the creative ways!
Its about finding creative ways! How can anyone take offense?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
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brianlux
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edited December 2012
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I believe if we open up our avenues of thought, especially where there is not much hope, then we open up potential for innovation. We have to find ways for the poor to be involved more. We need to find ways to give them something to do. This isnt about classifying them! This is about trying to empower them! Some just dont get it. Once we move on something....sometimes other doors open up and we find new trends or innovative ideas! We need to navigate our way and not be complacent and still! We need to mobilize where we can and stay active on ideas. Thats what its about. Finding ways for us to be a part of the solution. Finding ways for us to all be involved. Thats inspirational and thats compassionate. Solutions!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Okay... I'll bite.
'Fair Share'... how about a Federal Sales Tax? If you buy a loaf of bread for your weekly dinner... or you buy a 17 million dollar home in Aspen... you pay a no loopholes Sales tax at equal percentages on both items. 6% on the loaf of bread... and 6% on the 17 million dollar home with an indoor bowling alley.
How about boosting the Gasoline Tax and earmarking it for transportation projects only? The more you drive, the more you use the roads, the more you pay for the roads you constantly use.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Okay... I'll bite.
'Fair Share'... how about a Federal Sales Tax? If you buy a loaf of bread for your weekly dinner... or you buy a 17 million dollar home in Aspen... you pay a no loopholes Sales tax at equal percentages on both items. 6% on the loaf of bread... and 6% on the 17 million dollar home with an indoor bowling alley.
How about boosting the Gasoline Tax and earmarking it for transportation projects only? The more you drive, the more you use the roads, the more you pay for the roads you constantly use.
Im just happy to get some ideas here....they are far and few between ....so thanks Cosmo!
I want the rich to pay more to shut Obama up on class warfare, BUT I want reforms, savings and cuts to go along with it. Any gas taxes and road taxes hurt the working class the most, so I say no to them.
Keep them coming....
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Okay... I'll bite.
'Fair Share'... how about a Federal Sales Tax? If you buy a loaf of bread for your weekly dinner... or you buy a 17 million dollar home in Aspen... you pay a no loopholes Sales tax at equal percentages on both items. 6% on the loaf of bread... and 6% on the 17 million dollar home with an indoor bowling alley.
How about boosting the Gasoline Tax and earmarking it for transportation projects only? The more you drive, the more you use the roads, the more you pay for the roads you constantly use.
Im just happy to get some ideas here....they are far and few between ....so thanks Cosmo!
I want the rich to pay more to shut Obama up on class warfare, BUT I want reforms, savings and cuts to go along with it. Any gas taxes and road taxes hurt the working class the most, so I say no to them.
Keep them coming....
...
Double the fuel taxes on non-commercial flights. Make those fuckface CEOs from GM either fly commercial flights or pay through the nose for their private jets.
Create a Federal Vehicle registration fee that is based upon both the weight of the vehicle and the displacement of the engine. Get those Hollywood douchebags out of their HumVees and Towncars or pay to drive around town looking for out of town tourist girls to molest and rape.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Okay... I'll bite.
'Fair Share'... how about a Federal Sales Tax? If you buy a loaf of bread for your weekly dinner... or you buy a 17 million dollar home in Aspen... you pay a no loopholes Sales tax at equal percentages on both items. 6% on the loaf of bread... and 6% on the 17 million dollar home with an indoor bowling alley.
How about boosting the Gasoline Tax and earmarking it for transportation projects only? The more you drive, the more you use the roads, the more you pay for the roads you constantly use.
Im just happy to get some ideas here....they are far and few between ....so thanks Cosmo!
I want the rich to pay more to shut Obama up on class warfare, BUT I want reforms, savings and cuts to go along with it. Any gas taxes and road taxes hurt the working class the most, so I say no to them.
Keep them coming....
...
Double the fuel taxes on non-commercial flights. Make those fuckface CEOs from GM either fly commercial flights or pay through the nose for their private jets.
Create a Federal Vehicle registration fee that is based upon both the weight of the vehicle and the displacement of the engine. Get those Hollywood douchebags out of their HumVees and Towncars or pay to drive around town looking for out of town tourist girls to molest and rape.
Ok great! Yea stick it to them! Although I believe that when its all said and done, if they pay the %39.6 and all other taxes that are coming, it will be about %60 for the rich. Is that enough in your mind? If not, what do you think they should pay total in taxes?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Ok great! Yea stick it to them! Although I believe that when its all said and done, if they pay the %39.6 and all other taxes that are coming, it will be about %60 for the rich. Is that enough in your mind? If not, what do you think they should pay total in taxes?
...
No. It is fair. You are talking about Fair, right?
If a homless guy want to drive around in a HumVee... he should pay the exact same amount as the Hollywood douchebag. The same goes when you fly to your beach house in South Florida on your private jet... you would pay the exact same amount as the rich guy.
That is Fair, isn't it?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Ok great! Yea stick it to them! Although I believe that when its all said and done, if they pay the %39.6 and all other taxes that are coming, it will be about %60 for the rich. Is that enough in your mind? If not, what do you think they should pay total in taxes?
...
No. It is fair. You are talking about Fair, right?
If a homless guy want to drive around in a HumVee... he should pay the exact same amount as the Hollywood douchebag. The same goes when you fly to your beach house in South Florida on your private jet... you would pay the exact same amount as the rich guy.
That is Fair, isn't it?
I say raise the taxes on the rich like Obama wants to, just to shut him up on class warfare! Then, try to lower taxes on everyone else! Then, come up with creative ideas for ALL people to do more to "lighten the load"
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
I say raise the taxes on the rich like Obama wants to, just to shut him up on class warfare! Then, try to lower taxes on everyone else! Then, come up with creative ideas for ALL people to do more to "lighten the load"
...
How about this...
A simple flat tax system... on Income, investments and material goods.
15% on income. No tax write offs. No home mortgage interest write-off... no writing off your S Class Mercedes Benz for your 'Real Estate' business... no write-offs. And no, you cannot buy a car in Canada and drive it over here to avoid the taxes on it.
22% income on investments. Stocks... Bonds... Foriegn Investments... Income property...
6% Sales tax on all goods. Thumb tacks... 6%, Big Macs... 6%, 137 room single family mansion in Vail... 6%, 2013 Ford Focus... 6%.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
edited December 2012
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Post edited by brianlux on
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I say raise the taxes on the rich like Obama wants to, just to shut him up on class warfare! Then, try to lower taxes on everyone else! Then, come up with creative ideas for ALL people to do more to "lighten the load"
...
How about this...
A simple flat tax system... on Income, investments and material goods.
15% on income. No tax write offs. No home mortgage interest write-off... no writing off your S Class Mercedes Benz for your 'Real Estate' business... no write-offs. And no, you cannot buy a car in Canada and drive it over here to avoid the taxes on it.
22% income on investments. Stocks... Bonds... Foriegn Investments... Income property...
6% Sales tax on all goods. Thumb tacks... 6%, Big Macs... 6%, 137 room single family mansion in Vail... 6%, 2013 Ford Focus... 6%.
Hey its sounds like a great idea, I wonder if the revenues would increase if we did that? Right now we bring in about 2 trillion per year. But we spend 3.3 trillion per year, so if we can get the revenues up 500 billion and cut 800 billion, we got a balanced annual budget! YAY!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Wow, a whole thread about how to get the poor to pay their "fair share"! The poor are what's wrong with America, right. What do you think- should we should just float them (and all the atheists while we're at it) all out into the middle of the ocean and sink the boat?
Jeez fear, where are your priorities? :roll:
"a whole thread" uh yeah!
You like to put words and shape thoughts with questions dont you?
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
I believe we can do more as poor people that are able to do more.
What are the numbers of people who can physically do work, or serve that dont pay income taxes? I believe its about 70-100 million people! This thread is to find creative ways for these people to pay their 'fair share" and lighten the load! Does everyone get it?
I think you might be referring to the number of people that don't pay federal income tax, which is 76 million. Most of those 76 million are working, and they pay local, state and payroll tax. The others included in that would be the elderly, disabled, and the unemployed. Which sub group of the 76 million would you like to see pay their 'fair share'?
I believe we can do more as poor people that are able to do more.
What are the numbers of people who can physically do work, or serve that dont pay income taxes? I believe its about 70-100 million people! This thread is to find creative ways for these people to pay their 'fair share" and lighten the load! Does everyone get it?
I think you might be referring to the number of people that don't pay federal income tax, which is 76 million. Most of those 76 million are working, and they pay local, state and payroll tax. The others included in that would be the elderly, disabled, and the unemployed. Which sub group of the 76 million would you like to see pay their 'fair share'?
I dont want them to pay money, cause they dont have it, this is about finding creative ways to serve, pay and cut costs!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
When 30 large companies, such as Verizon and General Electric, make a total of $160 billion in U.S. profits from 2008-2010 according to the Citizens for Tax Justice and pay NO federal income taxes there is a substantial loss of revenue to the U.S. Treasury. Two thirds of corporations pay no income tax on their profits under the Swiss cheese tax code.
Just taxing corporations at the rate paid in the prosperous nineteen sixties would bring in hundreds of billions of dollars yearly. Another great revenue producer is a tiny Wall St. speculation sales tax, a far tinier rate than what you pay in sales taxes.
I believe that last 10 responses are about Brian Lux's feelings and opinions....so Im sorry to anyone out there who may have an idea....if any! Talk about de railing a thread......i see your whole game bud! I think everyone should see it! Anyone here should be able to look past words and try to find the creative ways!
Its about finding creative ways! How can anyone take offense?
Yah. You're right. Back to the OP. Hmmmm. I got it... lets put some sort of identifying band on the arm of anyone who is receiving a handout. Who cares about the underlying reasons for this. Let's simply identify anyone in a position of need. People with these bands- understanding that they are getting a free ride and living on gravy street- can then be called upon to do small tasks that show their appreciation for the people spoon feeding them.
For example... if it's cold out and you don't really feel like wiping the snow off your car... you can get one of those armband guys to do it for you. If they refuse... you simply take the number on their armband... report it... and bingo: no more free stuff for one week (first offence). The more refusals... escalating consequences.
I believe that last 10 responses are about Brian Lux's feelings and opinions....so Im sorry to anyone out there who may have an idea....if any! Talk about de railing a thread......i see your whole game bud! I think everyone should see it! Anyone here should be able to look past words and try to find the creative ways!
Its about finding creative ways! How can anyone take offense?
Yah. You're right. Back to the OP. Hmmmm. I got it... lets put some sort of identifying band on the arm of anyone who is receiving a handout. Who cares about the underlying reasons for this. Let's simply identify anyone in a position of need. People with these bands- understanding that they are getting a free ride and living on gravy street- can then be called upon to do small tasks that show their appreciation for the people spoon feeding them.
For example... if it's cold out and you don't really feel like wiping the snow off your car... you can get one of those armband guys to do it for you. If they refuse... you simply take the number on their armband... report it... and bingo: no more free stuff for one week (first offence). The more refusals... escalating consequences.
"If you have come here to help me, you are wasting your time.
But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together" - Lilla Watson
... speaks volumes to me. Sit a while, yarn a while with people... get to know other people and what they've experienced, what they value... acknowledge differences in culture, gender, economic status and think about the impact of these on the individual... seek diverse views and if we all 'think' as opposed to 'rearranging our own prejudices'...?
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Sometimes i wonder about the people on here......This post is not about my words or context .....its a simple post about creative ideas from you, the reader. If you cannot see the positive, then you must be rigid, ignorant or just inept! Its almost like people are yelling at me! Its almost like they didnt give any thought to anything before responding, or even more revealing, their first thoughts were that of negativity, judgement and partisanship. Its time to sit back, take a deep breath and think things through. We need inspiration here on AMT and here in America! For those of you around the world.....America will be the shining city on the hill one day again. I have hope and I have faith in our future because America is Good!
Pandora, thanks for seeing the positive! Brian, I know you are smart, why such a response is beyond me! Gimmie...dont be so rigid! Red Rock, cmon man jeez! Go Beavers....we need more cooperation and less rigidity!
Ok its time to get back to work on the OP for creative ideas!
Another idea that I have is that we have computerized welfare and food stamps. No more food stamp cards for cigs, cash, alcohol, and drugs with your neighbors. You get a certain amount per month to use and its all on the computer. No more cards!
How about training our youth to be companions for the elderly....and have the elderly teach them wisdom while they are at it. How about a story or two? How about American History lesson? We need to understand our history and our past and our founding.
How about video games that teach our youth economics and common sense? I like this one!
Now from here on out....can we get one or two ideas?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Looking down on others is a classic move by those who are insecure about themselves and have no love in their life. Just look up the term "Bully".
Ok another good idea might be to STOP TRYING TO DERAIL THREADS! LOL
I believe we can do more as poor people that are able to do more.
What are the numbers of people who can physically do work, or serve that dont pay income taxes? I believe its about 70-100 million people! This thread is to find creative ways for these people to pay their 'fair share" and lighten the load! Does everyone get it?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
This thread is nothing to do with other countries bud, wake up! Where is God in this thread? Where did I degrade the poor, cause i am poor! Where? Stay on topic and understand the meaning is to FIND CREATIVE WAYS for the group that does not pay income taxes....to do their fair share! If you are emotional and angry....then leave this post ....and dont come back! Simple!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
You are taking my context from other threads and applying your opinions to this thread....very elementary! Stay on topic and be constructive! You cannot I see! All of a sudden you made this thread about YOUR feelings and YOUR opinions!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Its about finding creative ways! How can anyone take offense?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
'Fair Share'... how about a Federal Sales Tax? If you buy a loaf of bread for your weekly dinner... or you buy a 17 million dollar home in Aspen... you pay a no loopholes Sales tax at equal percentages on both items. 6% on the loaf of bread... and 6% on the 17 million dollar home with an indoor bowling alley.
How about boosting the Gasoline Tax and earmarking it for transportation projects only? The more you drive, the more you use the roads, the more you pay for the roads you constantly use.
Hail, Hail!!!
Im just happy to get some ideas here....they are far and few between ....so thanks Cosmo!
I want the rich to pay more to shut Obama up on class warfare, BUT I want reforms, savings and cuts to go along with it. Any gas taxes and road taxes hurt the working class the most, so I say no to them.
Keep them coming....
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Double the fuel taxes on non-commercial flights. Make those fuckface CEOs from GM either fly commercial flights or pay through the nose for their private jets.
Create a Federal Vehicle registration fee that is based upon both the weight of the vehicle and the displacement of the engine. Get those Hollywood douchebags out of their HumVees and Towncars or pay to drive around town looking for out of town tourist girls to molest and rape.
Hail, Hail!!!
Ok great! Yea stick it to them! Although I believe that when its all said and done, if they pay the %39.6 and all other taxes that are coming, it will be about %60 for the rich. Is that enough in your mind? If not, what do you think they should pay total in taxes?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
No. It is fair. You are talking about Fair, right?
If a homless guy want to drive around in a HumVee... he should pay the exact same amount as the Hollywood douchebag. The same goes when you fly to your beach house in South Florida on your private jet... you would pay the exact same amount as the rich guy.
That is Fair, isn't it?
Hail, Hail!!!
I say raise the taxes on the rich like Obama wants to, just to shut him up on class warfare! Then, try to lower taxes on everyone else! Then, come up with creative ideas for ALL people to do more to "lighten the load"
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
How about this...
A simple flat tax system... on Income, investments and material goods.
15% on income. No tax write offs. No home mortgage interest write-off... no writing off your S Class Mercedes Benz for your 'Real Estate' business... no write-offs. And no, you cannot buy a car in Canada and drive it over here to avoid the taxes on it.
22% income on investments. Stocks... Bonds... Foriegn Investments... Income property...
6% Sales tax on all goods. Thumb tacks... 6%, Big Macs... 6%, 137 room single family mansion in Vail... 6%, 2013 Ford Focus... 6%.
Hail, Hail!!!
Hey its sounds like a great idea, I wonder if the revenues would increase if we did that? Right now we bring in about 2 trillion per year. But we spend 3.3 trillion per year, so if we can get the revenues up 500 billion and cut 800 billion, we got a balanced annual budget! YAY!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
"a whole thread" uh yeah!
You like to put words and shape thoughts with questions dont you?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
I think you might be referring to the number of people that don't pay federal income tax, which is 76 million. Most of those 76 million are working, and they pay local, state and payroll tax. The others included in that would be the elderly, disabled, and the unemployed. Which sub group of the 76 million would you like to see pay their 'fair share'?
I dont want them to pay money, cause they dont have it, this is about finding creative ways to serve, pay and cut costs!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
When 30 large companies, such as Verizon and General Electric, make a total of $160 billion in U.S. profits from 2008-2010 according to the Citizens for Tax Justice and pay NO federal income taxes there is a substantial loss of revenue to the U.S. Treasury. Two thirds of corporations pay no income tax on their profits under the Swiss cheese tax code.
Just taxing corporations at the rate paid in the prosperous nineteen sixties would bring in hundreds of billions of dollars yearly. Another great revenue producer is a tiny Wall St. speculation sales tax, a far tinier rate than what you pay in sales taxes.
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2012/10/which ... havens.php
Yah. You're right. Back to the OP. Hmmmm. I got it... lets put some sort of identifying band on the arm of anyone who is receiving a handout. Who cares about the underlying reasons for this. Let's simply identify anyone in a position of need. People with these bands- understanding that they are getting a free ride and living on gravy street- can then be called upon to do small tasks that show their appreciation for the people spoon feeding them.
For example... if it's cold out and you don't really feel like wiping the snow off your car... you can get one of those armband guys to do it for you. If they refuse... you simply take the number on their armband... report it... and bingo: no more free stuff for one week (first offence). The more refusals... escalating consequences.
Thread over. I nailed it!
Oh this sounds good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait....are you being sarcastic?
But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together" - Lilla Watson
... speaks volumes to me. Sit a while, yarn a while with people... get to know other people and what they've experienced, what they value... acknowledge differences in culture, gender, economic status and think about the impact of these on the individual... seek diverse views and if we all 'think' as opposed to 'rearranging our own prejudices'...?