Since taking a toddler to the show is the new "thing"

ComeToTX

I wouldn't take my 5 year old to an Eddie show because its a little long and she'd tune out halfway through. But people saying kids can't appreciate the music are dead wrong. I've taken her to some smaller shows during the day and she loves it. She recognizes the voices and the songs. She loves Joe Pug and Jason Isbell and her all time fave is Jim James. If he played a show that was appropriate then I'd take her and she would love it.

By the time she's 7 or 8 I would have no problem taking her to one of these Ed shows. I've been to 7 and haven't seen anything I wouldn't mind her being exposed to.

Just my 2 pennies.

StillHere

Yes it is creepy to use your kid to lure Eddie into your space .... very creepy.
BUT I do not think at all that it is inappropriate to bring your young child to an acoustic show...or otherwise.
NOT a toddler, but we had every intention of bringing Riley with us to the MIA show in Philly...he is only 7 and is a MEGA PJ Fan. But he was hospitalized right before the show (damned Chron's). I would bring him again ina heartbeat.

This is how I see it...the venue first has to be appropriate. At MIA in Philly it was an outdoor, organized festival with sheltered areas, other stuff to do/see, and places to get away from the more objectionable material (didn't intend to go too early ahead of PJ anyway if we had Riley w us).

I would not take him to MSG etc. But I WOULD take him to the Tower in Philly in a heartbeat. In fact, if Ed plays there again, I'd consider it....except that Riley is more into Pearl Jam rather than just Eddie. I'm just saying, though, the venue matters. In an outdoor venue, you can get away from the loudness if you need to, you can take a break if you need to. Of course, there are always headphones if its a true loud rock show. We've used that before.

AND

You have to know your kid. Some kids are more into it, more mature, more focused, more excited...if they are big PJ fans at home, well, you explain to them that this is a commitment for hours and there is no going home in the middle, etc. You already know if your child likes to go to sports games and other things that take time and focus. It all depends. IN our case, Riley goes to many Phillies games, and of course, despite anyone's best efforts, is exposed to foul language, etc. Unfortunately that is the way it is in the world in any communal space these days. It's not like Eddie's language is going to come as a surprise, especially if they already listen to live shows.

I am telling you, when Pearl Jam comes back to NJ/PA/NY, IF THE VENUE IS APPROPRIATE, I would not hesitate for Ross to take Riley with us.

ComeToTX

I'm sure there are some parents out there "using" their kiddos to meet Ed but I'm also sure there are parents that want to share something with their kids that has meant a lot to them for over 20 years. I'm not sure I'd have kids right now if it wasn't for music and pj in particular.

deserteddotse

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

JV130312

lol...that's just great parenting taking your toddler to a pearl jam concert...lol.

:roll:

moretonbayfig

deserteddotse wrote:

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

Unless the setlist is 'Do The Evolution' played twice with no encores I wouldn't bring my kids - I couldn't smuggle in enough snacks to keep them quiet. I've had to walk out on The Wiggles with my crew :x

DS1119

mca47 wrote:

Kids suck.
Keep those monsters at home and away from me!


Next thing you know, people will want to bring their dogs to a show! "Oh, Spot here has never seen Pearl Jam live before but he really digs them while I'm listening to them in the car. What's the big deal?"


Actually, I'd rather sit/stand next to a dog at a show rather than some 6 year old!

I'd much rather sit next to a dog as well.

deserteddotse

moretonbayfig wrote:

deserteddotse wrote:

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

Unless the setlist is 'Do The Evolution' played twice with no encores I wouldn't bring my kids - I couldn't smuggle in enough snacks to keep them quiet. I've had to walk out on The Wiggles with my crew :x

Haha, same here.... Actually brought them along for some local festival shows to bands they actually like and sing along to at home and in the car... Three songs into the set: "Can we leave?" "When is it over?" "I need to pee..." :fp:

2-feign-reluctance

Speedy, you're sucking in all the new blood with your controversial posts

Pap

deserteddotse wrote:

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

bravesfan4229

shep wrote:

Sugar-Magnolia wrote:

It does bother me to see little kids at shows. I do not think PJ or EV shows are intended to be an all ages event. And just because EVs kids bring him out stuff doesn't mean they are subjected to the whole show. We don't know what goes on backstage. But they are your kids--you get to make the decisions as to what content they are exposed to. Kids at shows bother me but not as much as the Buzz Killingtons who feel the need to police the crowd to keep our behavior G rated. I am not watching my language at a fucking rock concert. And if security is not doing anything about the smoking maybe just keep your mouth shut

Now let me make some clear, as this statement is blatently directed at my comments.

I don't have kids, nor do I plan on having them anytime soon (only 28). And what I will do in the event I have kids remains to be seen and it will be a decision made by me and my wife.... and I have never ever called over a security person to deal with the most beligerent of assholes in a crowd, I deal with it and move on with my life... but...

These eddie vedder shows are not a "fucking rock concert". Look at the venues he's chosen and the way he conducts himself during a show, these shows are more directed towards a performing-arts environment than a "fucking rock concert" and should be treated as such. If any classical arts performer had to deal with the type of shit people give eddie while he's up on stage (shouting out requests while he's trying to talk, constantly flashing cameras, etc...) they'd get up and walk away.

People smoking anything (be it a cigarette or joint or whatever) need to respect the place where they are, particularly in a performing arts venue. That's just not classy or respectful at all.

This shit isn't just ruining the show for a 6 year old, it's ruining the show for me too. People who want to take there kids should have every right to in this type of environment... and I'll support them... it it was a "fucking rock show" my opinion would change. Most of the toddlers I saw on this show were more respectful to eddie that all of the drunk assholes in the crowd.

This guy makes a great point...

JV130312

deserteddotse wrote:

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

Are you a toddler?

dimitrispearljam

deserteddotse wrote:

I brought my dad to the Berlin shows this year but Eddie wasn't very impressed, which sucks...

Dr. Delight

Puppies.... bring very small puppies.

PJ_Soul

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Res Ipsa Loquitur wrote:

I saw this line of comments in the other thread (about guy who waited outside in ORL and got mad he didn't get to touch E.V.) and now here. As a father of a 5 and 3 year old, I actually toyed with the idea of bringing my 5 y.o. daughter to a show in JAX and ORL last night, not to use as a tool to meet E.V. or anything, but to bring her to something cool she would remember forever and we could share together. Ultimately I decided it was too late for her and that some of the logistics would be odd (i.e. if she had to go to bathroom, or she got bored, etc.). My 3 y.o. would last 5 minutes then start looking for his dinosaurs, so that would be a horrible decision. If people truly are using their kids to try to get close to E.V. or whatever selfish reasons, then there is something disturbing there, but if they are just trying to really bring their kid into something special and share important memories with them, I don't see anything wrong with bringing kids of appropriate ages.

Bringing a 3-5 year old is just not appropriate. Right? Thats why you made that decision not to bring them. At an Eddie Vedder show ADULTS will be acting like Adults (well so to speak..I guess that can be argued...hehehe). There will be booze served, there will be marijuana lit up, there will be harsh language(Direct from Eddie Vedders mouth). There is NO REASON at all to bring a toddler to these shows. The ONLY reason I see people doing it, is so that Ed may notice the child, and the ADULT can meet Ed.

There was a woman with probably a 5 year old and an infant at the MT show. Everyone she walked by looked at her in disgust. It was just so inappropriate to have young kids, and especially a 3 month old, there. I mean fuck, find a babysitter or sit it out lady.

DewieCox

I used to take a hardline stance of no kids at concerts whatsoever, but I think it really depends on the environment-venue, band, volume, type of crowd the act attracts.

PJ_Soul

DewieCox wrote:

I used to take a hardline stance of no kids at concerts whatsoever, but I think it really depends on the environment-venue, band, volume, type of crowd the act attracts.

So where would a PJ show stand? The one I went to was insanely loud, Ed talked about writing on a penis and making it a hard on, screamed kick out the jams, motherfucker... also, there were drunk people and shit, etc. I don't think young kids should be at rock concerts at all. I can see 10 or 12, but not much younger than that. That said, EV solo isn't a rock concert. But toddlers? That's just stupid. It's an annoyance for a lot of other people, and what makes his shows awesome is beyond the comprehension of kids that young, and there is still material there that is in appropriate for little kids IMO. Plus, all no these shows are way too late for young kids - they should be in bed. Most of them get cranky from being tired before the first encore. Also, I read a couple people saying before that they had to leave with their kids because people.near them were drunk and saying things not fit for kids' ears .... um, DUH. It's an adult show, and your kids shouldn't be there. You just learned why not!