2013 MLB HOF voting

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,293
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Biggios 1st 5 years, he hits 31 Hr.
    The next 15 years, he hits 261 Hr.
    At the age of 39 he hits for a career high 26 Hr.

    Steroids


    What about these players???

    Marvin Benard
    Bobby Estalella
    Jeremy Giambi
    Armando Rios
    Randy Velarde
    Chad Allen
    Mike Bell
    Gary Bennet
    Larry Bigbie
    Mark Carreon
    Jason Christiansen
    Howie Clark
    Jack Cust
    Brendan Donnelly
    Chris Donnels
    Matt Franco
    Ryan Franklin
    Jason Grimsley
    Jerry Hairston Jr.
    Matt Herges
    Phil Hiatt

    All of them were named in The Mitchell report. How many of them are HOF worthy?

    This years vote should interesting. Bonds& Clemens should be locks(steroids or not). Bagwell & Piazza should get in too.

    What about Tim Raines?
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Lee Smith
    Mcgwire
    E Martinez
    Bonds
    Piazza
    Bonds
    Clemens
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Shame Pete Rose is not even considered.
  • QuarterToTen
    QuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,651
    DS1119 wrote:
    Shame Pete Rose is not even considered.

    And he never will be, a Damn shame indeed.
    Nice shirt.
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Leave the Steroid freaks out.

    Why the hell would you want Bonds in there............fuck him and the Rocket too. They got caught why the hell would you put them in the hall of fame a place for true baseball players.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    Leave the Steroid freaks out.

    Why the hell would you want Bonds in there............fuck him and the Rocket too. They got caught why the hell would you put them in the hall of fame a place for true baseball players.

    Then toss out any greeny, amphetamine users(Schmidt, Mays, Aaron) and any pitchers that spitballed or sandpapered the ball.

    The only reason these guys are being left out is b/c the writers know that every year they leave them out it's another year where this crap is big news to write about and to clear their conscience b/c they knew about it and nobody was brave enough to write the story.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Was listening to some talking heads this morning and they had some really good points. Would you ever hear anyone say someone doesn't belong in the Football Hall of Fame because they used steroids? We seem to hold baseball players to some sort of different standards than other sports. It was an interesting perspective.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    DS1119 wrote:
    Was listening to some talking heads this morning and they had some really good points. Would you ever hear anyone say someone doesn't belong in the Football Hall of Fame because they used steroids? We seem to hold baseball players to some sort of different standards than other sports. It was an interesting perspective.

    Word. Great point and I say this all the time. Everyone is all up in arms about baseball but fail to realize the most popular sport in the country has a massive steroid problem.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    Was listening to some talking heads this morning and they had some really good points. Would you ever hear anyone say someone doesn't belong in the Football Hall of Fame because they used steroids? We seem to hold baseball players to some sort of different standards than other sports. It was an interesting perspective.

    baseball records are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sacred than football records or any other sport's records though.

    football is a different animal altogether. people expect those guys to be gladiators on the field. baseball is more cerebral in nature.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Was listening to some talking heads this morning and they had some really good points. Would you ever hear anyone say someone doesn't belong in the Football Hall of Fame because they used steroids? We seem to hold baseball players to some sort of different standards than other sports. It was an interesting perspective.

    Word. Great point and I say this all the time. Everyone is all up in arms about baseball but fail to realize the most popular sport in the country has a massive steroid problem.


    I'm not even sure it's people failing to realize the steroid issue in the NFL...I just think people don't really seem to care about it.

    A baseball player hits a baseball 500 feet...the fan says he's juicing. A football player throws a football 80 yards...the fan says he has a great arm. :?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Was listening to some talking heads this morning and they had some really good points. Would you ever hear anyone say someone doesn't belong in the Football Hall of Fame because they used steroids? We seem to hold baseball players to some sort of different standards than other sports. It was an interesting perspective.

    Word. Great point and I say this all the time. Everyone is all up in arms about baseball but fail to realize the most popular sport in the country has a massive steroid problem.


    I'm not even sure it's people failing to realize the steroid issue in the NFL...I just think people don't really seem to care about it.

    A baseball player hits a baseball 500 feet...the fan says he's juicing. A football player throws a football 80 yards...the fan says he has a great arm. :?

    you think quarterbacks are juicing? :lol:
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    The Juggler wrote:

    you think quarterbacks are juicing? :lol:


    Possible.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    you think quarterbacks are juicing? :lol:


    Possible.

    which quarterback do you think is on steroids? and how would steroids help a quarterback?
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    The Juggler wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    you think quarterbacks are juicing? :lol:


    Possible.

    which quarterback do you think is on steroids? and how would steroids help a quarterback?

    The second part of your question has been posed about baseball players for years. HOw would steroids help a baseball player?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:

    Possible.

    which quarterback do you think is on steroids? and how would steroids help a quarterback?

    The second part of your question has been posed about baseball players for years. HOw would steroids help a baseball player?

    we know how steroids helped baseball players. the drop in home runs these last few years is all you need to know.

    seriously, what quarterback is on steroids and how would it help them?
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    The Juggler wrote:
    seriously, what quarterback is on steroids and how would it help them?


    The same way steroids help a pitcher in baseball. The same way steroids help someone peddle a bicycle faster and farther. Etc.

    I really haven't given any thoughts about steroids in football because frankly I don't care.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    seriously, what quarterback is on steroids and how would it help them?


    The same way steroids help a pitcher in baseball. The same way steroids help someone peddle a bicycle faster and farther. Etc.

    I really haven't given any thoughts about steroids in football because frankly I don't care.

    your reason earlier was a quarterback throwing the ball 80 yards, which rarely happens. i actually don't think it ever happened. a 50 yard through is considered to be a super long throw that not many qb's can do. accuracy, touch, and mobility in the pocket are the main attributes for a quarterback.

    when you think about steroids in football you think about giant defensive ends or linebackers. you don't think about tom brady or aaron rogers. :lol:
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    The Juggler wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    seriously, what quarterback is on steroids and how would it help them?


    The same way steroids help a pitcher in baseball. The same way steroids help someone peddle a bicycle faster and farther. Etc.

    I really haven't given any thoughts about steroids in football because frankly I don't care.

    your reason earlier was a quarterback throwing the ball 80 yards, which rarely happens. i actually don't think it ever happened. a 50 yard through is considered to be a super long throw that not many qb's can do. accuracy, touch, and mobility in the pocket are the main attributes for a quarterback.

    when you think about steroids in football you think about giant defensive ends or linebackers. you don't think about tom brady or aaron rogers. :lol:

    No one thought of lance Armstrong either. PEDS are not out of the realm for any athlete.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    The same way steroids help a pitcher in baseball. The same way steroids help someone peddle a bicycle faster and farther. Etc.

    I really haven't given any thoughts about steroids in football because frankly I don't care.

    your reason earlier was a quarterback throwing the ball 80 yards, which rarely happens. i actually don't think it ever happened. a 50 yard through is considered to be a super long throw that not many qb's can do. accuracy, touch, and mobility in the pocket are the main attributes for a quarterback.

    when you think about steroids in football you think about giant defensive ends or linebackers. you don't think about tom brady or aaron rogers. :lol:

    No one thought of lance Armstrong either. PEDS are not out of the realm for any athlete.

    yes they did. he was under suspicion for years. performing at such high levels even as he got older and older?
    i believe doping is rampant in biking...

    i agree about steroid use in football. i just don't think you can make a compelling argument about quarterbacks being included in that.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    I agree that there proabably aren't many QB's taking steroids and think it's a bigger issue for every other position on the field but I think they would certainly help a QB or any athlete in any sport for that matter. I doubt the benefits are worth the risk for many of them but being stronger and faster is never a bad thing for any athlete, especially with the steroids out today that can do so much without necessarily making you bigger. Sure it helps other players more but it certainly wouldn't hurt a QB.

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