Islamic compounds in U.S.A Training for Jihad

aerial

http://lawenforcementtoday.com/2012/11/16/informant-islamic-compounds-in-america-are-training-for-jihad/

http://vinienco.com/2012/11/18/islamic-community-forms-government-usa/


I'll just post part of the story. Does anyone know why this is being ignored? How can they treat women and children this way in America?


In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.

They even boast that their “town” provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.

This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the “citizens” within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.

I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.

MOA has established similar villages in nearly three-dozen locations nationwide, with other prominent camps found in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Tennessee.

fear4freedom

This has been ignored because both parties have interests in ignoring it! Each interest is different. The left ignores it for political correctness and future party power backing. They will sell whatever principles they have left for future money, power and voting blocks!

The GOP ignores it because they will be accused of Islamophobia if they pursue it! Also, the future will have many muslims and Islamic influence here in the USA and whoever bends to the pressure, or appeases them the most, will win the voting block in the future!

Sound familiar? It happened with the African Americans, then the hispanics, now the gays and soon to be the Muslims! All future Democrats!

Thats why!

catefrances

do you have links from a sane source? cause ive been looking and all i find is people freaking out... except this one blog that mentions the compound has been visited by the FBI.

http://thehive.modbee.com/node/18676

Prince Of Dorkness

This is a settlement that's been there since the 1980s. There has never been a single incident involving them and they're a group who lives under the peaceful teachings of their religion.

I don't personally "get it" but they don't bother anyone else... let them live in peace.

It should also be noted that they took part in the post 9/11 rescue effort and were there on day 2.

These are good people, not terrorists. They came here to escape tyranny and terrorism.

fear4freedom

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

This is a settlement that's been there since the 1980s. There has never been a single incident involving them and they're a group who lives under the peaceful teachings of their religion.

I don't personally "get it" but they don't bother anyone else... let them live in peace.

It should also be noted that they took part in the post 9/11 rescue effort and were there on day 2.

These are good people, not terrorists. They came here to escape tyranny and terrorism.

There are over 30 of these types of camps, compounds, etc. around the country. If they are peaceful...great!
If they hurt their own women and children, not great! If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable! If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable! You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

Prince Of Dorkness

fear4freedom wrote:

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

1) because my own family has been attacked by the same "white all pro Americans" and if this last election has taught us anything, it's that minority communities have had to - out of necessity - put our differences aside and defended each other. The same McCarthyist attacks on this community are the same kind used against mine.

1a) Don't be silly. I've defended many white people and I called Herman Cain "The King Of Uranus."

2) Because the term "white pro American" is baffling but if it means what I think it does, is pretty un-American.

fear4freedom

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

1) because my own family has been attacked by the same "white all pro Americans" and if this last election has taught us anything, it's that minority communities have had to - out of necessity - put our differences aside and defended each other. The same McCarthyist attacks on this community are the same kind used against mine.

1a) Don't be silly. I've defended many white people and I called Herman Cain "The King Of Uranus."

2) Because the term "white pro American" is baffling but if it means what I think it does, is pretty un-American.

I would love to see you just once, criticize the Nation of Islam, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Acorn, NAACP, ACLU, etc. whenever they are out of hand! Cmon, dont be so rigid for the left! Be righteous for THE PEOPLE

Prince Of Dorkness

fear4freedom wrote:

If they are peaceful...great!

They are.

If they hurt their own women and children, not great!

I think that goes for everyone, actually. Do you have anything that would suggest that they have done anything?

If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable!

I'm honestly not totally sure what "living under Sharia Law' means (I doubt you do, either), but if it's anything like allowing communities like the Amish living under their own laws in their own settlements... not sure what the problem is.

If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable!

Like how the Christian Right is funding those "kill the gays" bills in Uganda and Malawi? and do you have any proof they do this?

You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

I can't even come up with a response that sinks to the paranoid, asinine and vaguely racist tone of this.

Prince Of Dorkness

fear4freedom wrote:

I would love to see you just once, criticize the Nation of Islam, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Acorn, NAACP, ACLU, etc. whenever they are out of hand! Cmon, dont be so rigid for the left! Be righteous for THE PEOPLE

Make you a deal. When you point to your own criticism of Mitt Romney, Michele Bachmann, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, I'll point you to the many times that I've been quite critical of pretty much every one of those entries on your list.

As an addd bonus, I'll point to the times I've been critical of the president. But for that, I'll ask that you explain how "the left" is not "the people." I mean... they're a very clear majority of the country.

catefrances

fear4freedom wrote:

There are over 30 of these types of camps, compounds, etc. around the country. If they are peaceful...great!
If they hurt their own women and children, not great! If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable! If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable! You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

which school of sharia law are you referring to... hanbali, hanifi, maliki, shafi'i? cause you know what one school recognises isnt necessarily recognised by the others.

fear4freedom

catefrances wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

There are over 30 of these types of camps, compounds, etc. around the country. If they are peaceful...great!
If they hurt their own women and children, not great! If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable! If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable! You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

which school of sharia law are you referring to... hanbali, hanifi, maliki, shafi'i? cause you know what one school recognises isnt necessarily recognised by the others.

Maliki! Thats the one I dont like so much! All the others I can tolerate, but Maliki is evil! I would say that its the work of the Devil! You?

catefrances

fear4freedom wrote:

catefrances wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

There are over 30 of these types of camps, compounds, etc. around the country. If they are peaceful...great!
If they hurt their own women and children, not great! If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable! If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable! You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

which school of sharia law are you referring to... hanbali, hanifi, maliki, shafi'i? cause you know what one school recognises isnt necessarily recognised by the others.

Maliki! Thats the one I dont like so much! All the others I can tolerate, but Maliki is evil! I would say that its the work of the Devil! You?

as i do not discriminate id have to say ALL religions are the work of the devil. :twisted:

fear4freedom

Yes well Maliki is not really even Religous, its a political arm working under the guise of Religion! Also, MAN created Religion...and its all Man's rules.....I dont seek Religion....I seek Relationship!

catefrances

one could say that religion is political. its all about authority... in all its guises.

JC29856

aerial wrote:

http://lawenforcementtoday.com/2012/11/16/informant-islamic-compounds-in-america-are-training-for-jihad/

http://vinienco.com/2012/11/18/islamic-community-forms-government-usa/


I'll just post part of the story. Does anyone know why this is being ignored? How can they treat women and children this way in America?


In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.

They even boast that their “town” provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.

This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the “citizens” within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.

I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.

MOA has established similar villages in nearly three-dozen locations nationwide, with other prominent camps found in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Tennessee.

is this one of those sleeper cell terrorist groups that i have been waiting 10 years for to slit my throat, rape my wife and hang my dogs in the middle of the night? ive been wondering where they were...?

blackredyellow

aerial wrote:

http://lawenforcementtoday.com/2012/11/16/informant-islamic-compounds-in-america-are-training-for-jihad/

http://vinienco.com/2012/11/18/islamic-community-forms-government-usa/


I'll just post part of the story. Does anyone know why this is being ignored? How can they treat women and children this way in America?


In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.

They even boast that their “town” provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.

This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the “citizens” within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.

I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.

MOA has established similar villages in nearly three-dozen locations nationwide, with other prominent camps found in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Tennessee.

The first link is hilarious, as they use a picture of masked guys with weapons and lots of ammo, as to suggest that it was taken in one of these communities.

And why is this informant sending stuff to the NYPD for information about things not in their jurisdiction? What is the NYPD going to do with it?

Do people know how many compounds exist in this country for everything like religious cults, odd religious sects, paranoid wanna-be militia members, etc? I'm sure the feds are keeping an eye on things, but until some large scale illegal activity becomes apparent, they aren't going to raid a compound. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge?

keeponrockin

Are they doing anything illegal?

If not, I thought conservatives wanted government to stay out of people's lives.

blackredyellow

keeponrockin wrote:

Are they doing anything illegal?

If not, I thought conservatives wanted government to stay out of people's lives.

But they have different beliefs than them. Today's conservatives only want the government to stay out of peoples' lives who agree with them.

fuck

fear4freedom wrote:

catefrances wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

There are over 30 of these types of camps, compounds, etc. around the country. If they are peaceful...great!
If they hurt their own women and children, not great! If they live under Sharia Law, not acceptable! If they raise money for bad groups overseas, not acceptable! You do know that the biggest part of their strategy is to move here in large numbers of peaceful people first....then use the power of numbers to influence their causes. You do know that right?

Let me ask you, why are your responses clean and positive when pertaining to people of other than white color, but they are negative and attacking when there are white all pro Americans involved?

which school of sharia law are you referring to... hanbali, hanifi, maliki, shafi'i? cause you know what one school recognises isnt necessarily recognised by the others.

Maliki! Thats the one I dont like so much! All the others I can tolerate, but Maliki is evil! I would say that its the work of the Devil! You?

Excuse me? What is it about Maliki that's so evil compared to the rest? Anyone with even some mild knowledge of Islamic history would tell you the same thing, You're not making any sense here.

josevolution

ooohhh it's the evil muslims get you guns and board your windows they will be running our gov before you know it

fuck

aerial wrote:

In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.

Of course? Why of course? Do Muslims have a natural aversion to democracy? How does anyone consider this crap news?

They even boast that their “town” provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.

Yeeeeah, put "town" in quotes, as if it's not some town, but a terrorist camp. This Pearl Jam "forum" is a place where we discuss politics and music and whatever else.... yeeeah, but we know the truth. We know that this place is actually just where we come to shit on the band when they do what we do not like. All the other stuff, the talking politics and music, etc, that's all a front for our true purpose :twisted:

This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the “citizens” within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.

What is Shari`ah law? Anyone? Nice use of "iron first" though. I mean, by the third paragraph, you can tell, this is a truly unbiased piece of journalism.

I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.

Any information on what kind of links? How/where it's documented? No? Alright, see you later.