Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’

dignin

Ok, I'm sorry I cant let this thread die. Lets here what Jon Stewart has to say. Video in link.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... l-america/

Jon Stewart Mocks Bill O’Reilly’s Fears About The End Of Traditional America

by Josh Feldman | 11:30 pm, November 15th, 2012

Jon Stewart opened his show tonight by ripping into Mitt Romney (for possibly the last time) over his claim that President Obama beat him because he offered gifts to people. Stewart mocked Romney by pulling out a literal giant gift bag filled with weed, contraceptives, and a piñata full of green cards. But Stewart saved his sharpest jabs for Bill O’Reilly over his implication that Obama’s reelection represents the end of traditional America.


Stewart highlighted how much O’Reilly has bemoaned the end of traditional America, which apparently is a stake in the heart of “Leave it to Beaver” or something. When O’Reilly got around to the issue of whites now in the minority, Stewart pointed out that demographics in the United States are always changing, and there’s nothing you can really do about it.

Stewart got a little personal with O’Reilly, pointing out the United States’ history of bigotry against the Irish. As Stewart pointed out, newspapers that referred to the Irish as horrible people were at least progressive in the sense that they accepted the Irish were people.

Stewart also relaxed O’Reilly’s fears about American’s new religious outline and the “impact of creeping secularism” affecting Catholic support for Obama. As Stewart pointed out, Catholics were marginalized for decades in the U.S., and considering that a former president once sent the army into Utah to fight the Mormons, it’s pretty remarkable we almost had a Mormon president.

Stewart offered O’Reilly some soothing words of advice, telling him not to worry so much, because “America’s greatest tradition” is a “frightened ruling class lamenting the rise of a new ethnically and religiously diverse new class,” and every generation rises in the United States in order to give themselves and their children the opportunity to “shit on the next group” to show up.

cincybearcat

Yeah, sour grapes.

But forgiveness of student loans pisses me off. It is a bullshit carrot. it isn;t why Obama won though.

Zoso

dignin wrote:

Ok, I'm sorry I cant let this thread die. Lets here what Jon Stewart has to say. Video in link.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... l-america/

Jon Stewart Mocks Bill O’Reilly’s Fears About The End Of Traditional America

by Josh Feldman | 11:30 pm, November 15th, 2012

Jon Stewart opened his show tonight by ripping into Mitt Romney (for possibly the last time) over his claim that President Obama beat him because he offered gifts to people. Stewart mocked Romney by pulling out a literal giant gift bag filled with weed, contraceptives, and a piñata full of green cards. But Stewart saved his sharpest jabs for Bill O’Reilly over his implication that Obama’s reelection represents the end of traditional America.


Stewart highlighted how much O’Reilly has bemoaned the end of traditional America, which apparently is a stake in the heart of “Leave it to Beaver” or something. When O’Reilly got around to the issue of whites now in the minority, Stewart pointed out that demographics in the United States are always changing, and there’s nothing you can really do about it.

Stewart got a little personal with O’Reilly, pointing out the United States’ history of bigotry against the Irish. As Stewart pointed out, newspapers that referred to the Irish as horrible people were at least progressive in the sense that they accepted the Irish were people.

Stewart also relaxed O’Reilly’s fears about American’s new religious outline and the “impact of creeping secularism” affecting Catholic support for Obama. As Stewart pointed out, Catholics were marginalized for decades in the U.S., and considering that a former president once sent the army into Utah to fight the Mormons, it’s pretty remarkable we almost had a Mormon president.

Stewart offered O’Reilly some soothing words of advice, telling him not to worry so much, because “America’s greatest tradition” is a “frightened ruling class lamenting the rise of a new ethnically and religiously diverse new class,” and every generation rises in the United States in order to give themselves and their children the opportunity to “shit on the next group” to show up.

he is on the money ince again gotta love Jon.

grooveme

Well, I thought that the republican party would either examine its loss carefully and try to strike a more moderate tone or double down on the insanity/divisiveness that lead to their defeat. It looks as though Mitt has chosen the latter option. Hopefully calmer heads will prevail, although it seems too early to tell

grooveme

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

brianlux

Couldn't Mitt just blame himself for losing? Noooooooooooo, I guess not.

fife

grooveme wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

lets hope he runs again.

cincybearcat

fife wrote:

grooveme wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

lets hope he runs again.

BINGO!!!!!

Would have destroyed Obama.

grooveme

fife wrote:

grooveme wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

lets hope he runs again.

LOVE John Huntsman. Too bad the republican primary voters don't

fife

cincybearcat wrote:

fife wrote:

grooveme wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

lets hope he runs again.

BINGO!!!!!

Would have destroyed Obama.[/quote]

I would not say destroy cause I don't think American politics allows for destruction anymore.

I consider myself left leaning but I would have voted for Huntsman. but at the same time I think Obama has done a good job on many things

JimmyV

I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

fife

JimmyV wrote:

I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

I think the bigger issue is that these PAC can do anything they want. from everything that i have read or heard huntsman say make me believe that he is a good person. Hell, Obama picked him to be ambassador.

JimmyV

fife wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

I think the bigger issue is that these PAC can do anything they want. from everything that i have read or heard huntsman say make me believe that he is a good person. Hell, Obama picked him to be ambassador.

I have heard similar things.

Prince Of Dorkness

JimmyV wrote:

I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

Ok, I get the gritty extreme close ups and washed out colour scheme. And I even get the action movie soundtrack. Why did they shoot the end on the set of Michael Jackson's "Bad" video?

cincybearcat

fife wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

fife wrote:

Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

lets hope he runs again.

BINGO!!!!!

Would have destroyed Obama.

I would not say destroy cause I don't think American politics allows for destruction anymore.

I consider myself left leaning but I would have voted for Huntsman. but at the same time I think Obama has done a good job on many things[/quote]

Guess I think it depends on your definition on destroy. I think Obama destroyed MItt. He won every key
"swing state".

JimmyV

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

Ok, I get the gritty extreme close ups and washed out colour scheme. And I even get the action movie soundtrack. Why did they shoot the end on the set of Michael Jackson's "Bad" video?

Great question!

JimmyV

cincybearcat wrote:

Guess I think it depends on your definition on destroy. I think Obama destroyed MItt. He won every key
"swing state".

Agreed. I think that is an accurate definition in this political climate. Was the victory on the level of Reagan in 1984? No, but neither party would be able to win like that today. I think 2008 was about as close to a destruction as possible and this wasn't too far off from that.

MayDay10

I would have voted for Huntsman or Paul.

But no, we had to vet through the whack pack of Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, and finally Romney. Hell, Palin got a closer look at it and she wasnt even in the primaries.

pandora

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

this was not a close race. electoral vote difference >100, obama had at least 2.5 million more popular votes. it was not close at all. it was an ass kicking.

romney embarrassed the gop. or the gop embarrassed itself with the candidates it chose to field.

I certainly think out of the 133 million who voted 2.5 million is a close margin
not as close as some elections but way closer than others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... ote_margin

pandora

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

The episodes, the things said and done by the far right, played a part in his loss for sure.
One would think the far right would stay quiet during the few months leading up
to the election. Live and learn hopefully.
I think many would have liked to vote Republican but couldn't.