Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’

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  • Ok we all know that after it was discovered that he had personally donated ten thousand dollars to have my family's rights and protections voted away (and tried to hide it), And said that all states should vote on wether I should get the "benefit" of visiting my husband in the hospital, I did anything and everything I could to help destroy him.

    Now that that's over with...


    My Theory: Mitt Romney is humiliated. He's a snobby rich guy who thought he could buy anything he wanted. And he certainly wasn't going to be beaten by a black man. But he was. And he isn't dumb, he knows exactly why.

    He ran a divisive campaign that sought to divide the American public and pit them against each other, thus alienating the very groups he needed: women, Latinos, African Americans, Asians, the GLBT community, young people of all races. But instead of admitting that, he's decided to scorch the earth. Further alienate those groups and poison the Republican well. In hopes that the next two or three election cycles will show the same results so he can point to them and say "SEE!! It wasn't MY fault!!
  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    I read somewhere, I'm pretty sure on here (you may have brought it up cate) that since it's a holiday, people going to vote drunk is considered a little bit of a problem.

    doesnt sound like something i would say. which voters are you referring to?

    Maybe it wasn't you. I just remember talk about how in Australia since it's a holiday so that people can vote, a lot of people (as would probably happen here to if it were a holiday too) get a little festive. I don't think it's actually seen as a problem per se, but it was raising the question of people going to vote under the influence.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    I read somewhere, I'm pretty sure on here (you may have brought it up cate) that since it's a holiday, people going to vote drunk is considered a little bit of a problem.

    doesnt sound like something i would say. which voters are you referring to?

    Maybe it wasn't you. I just remember talk about how in Australia since it's a holiday so that people can vote, a lot of people (as would probably happen here to if it were a holiday too) get a little festive. I don't think it's actually seen as a problem per se, but it was raising the question of people going to vote under the influence.

    you got some bad info. we dont have a special holiday so we can vote. our elections take place on saturdays. and thats at all levels.. local, state and federal.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    you got some bad info. we dont have a special holiday so we can vote. our elections take place on saturdays. and thats at all levels.. local, state and federal.

    Maybe I'm thinking of another country. I could have sworn it was Australia though. Maybe it was just the fact it's on the weekend or something. I'm pretty sure it had to do with a holiday though, so I'm thinking maybe I just have the country wrong.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    you got some bad info. we dont have a special holiday so we can vote. our elections take place on saturdays. and thats at all levels.. local, state and federal.

    Maybe I'm thinking of another country. I could have sworn it was Australia though. Maybe it was just the fact it's on the weekend or something. I'm pretty sure it had to do with a holiday though, so I'm thinking maybe I just have the country wrong.


    im thinking you do too. but dont feel bad i used to think we were really good at winter sports when i was little... then i discovered austria. :)
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    At the White House website, a report in the Examiner explains, there was posted a petition seeking a recount of the race. “In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes … but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It’s not humanly possible to get 108 percent of the vote,” the petition claims.


    THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORTS
    108% of voting population endorses Obama

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    im thinking you do too. but dont feel bad i used to think we were really good at winter sports when i was little... then i discovered austria. :)
    :mrgreen:

    Question - with voting there being mandatory, what's the penalty for not doing so? And how is it tracked?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    even if romney won ohio he still would have lost the election.

    in an electoral landslide.

    aerial wrote:
    At the White House website, a report in the Examiner explains, there was posted a petition seeking a recount of the race. “In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes … but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It’s not humanly possible to get 108 percent of the vote,” the petition claims.


    THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORTS
    108% of voting population endorses Obama

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    hedonist wrote:
    im thinking you do too. but dont feel bad i used to think we were really good at winter sports when i was little... then i discovered austria. :)
    :mrgreen:

    Question - with voting there being mandatory, what's the penalty for not doing so? And how is it tracked?

    you get fined for not voting. when you rock up at the polling station you get your name marked off the voter registration roll, then they match that with your known address and voila! if your name isnt marked off as having voted, youre busted! not sure what happens if youve not registered to vote.. tho i suspect theyll get you via birth records cross matched with drivers licences. seems like a pain in the arse to me tbh.
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  • aerial wrote:
    At the White House website, a report in the Examiner explains,

    The Examiner?

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    THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORTS
    108% of voting population endorses Obama

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

    Ah yes... "World News Daily."

    Let's look at some other wonders of Journalistic integrity from World News Daily, shall we?

    Starbucks says "going gay is profitable."

    Casket-maker uses nude models to sell wares

    Obama hid "gay life" to become president.

    FEMA has coffins and camps on standby
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Ok, I'm sorry I cant let this thread die. Lets here what Jon Stewart has to say. Video in link.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... l-america/

    Jon Stewart Mocks Bill O’Reilly’s Fears About The End Of Traditional America

    by Josh Feldman | 11:30 pm, November 15th, 2012

    Jon Stewart opened his show tonight by ripping into Mitt Romney (for possibly the last time) over his claim that President Obama beat him because he offered gifts to people. Stewart mocked Romney by pulling out a literal giant gift bag filled with weed, contraceptives, and a piñata full of green cards. But Stewart saved his sharpest jabs for Bill O’Reilly over his implication that Obama’s reelection represents the end of traditional America.


    Stewart highlighted how much O’Reilly has bemoaned the end of traditional America, which apparently is a stake in the heart of “Leave it to Beaver” or something. When O’Reilly got around to the issue of whites now in the minority, Stewart pointed out that demographics in the United States are always changing, and there’s nothing you can really do about it.

    Stewart got a little personal with O’Reilly, pointing out the United States’ history of bigotry against the Irish. As Stewart pointed out, newspapers that referred to the Irish as horrible people were at least progressive in the sense that they accepted the Irish were people.

    Stewart also relaxed O’Reilly’s fears about American’s new religious outline and the “impact of creeping secularism” affecting Catholic support for Obama. As Stewart pointed out, Catholics were marginalized for decades in the U.S., and considering that a former president once sent the army into Utah to fight the Mormons, it’s pretty remarkable we almost had a Mormon president.

    Stewart offered O’Reilly some soothing words of advice, telling him not to worry so much, because “America’s greatest tradition” is a “frightened ruling class lamenting the rise of a new ethnically and religiously diverse new class,” and every generation rises in the United States in order to give themselves and their children the opportunity to “shit on the next group” to show up.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    Yeah, sour grapes.

    But forgiveness of student loans pisses me off. It is a bullshit carrot. it isn;t why Obama won though.
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    dignin wrote:
    Ok, I'm sorry I cant let this thread die. Lets here what Jon Stewart has to say. Video in link.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... l-america/

    Jon Stewart Mocks Bill O’Reilly’s Fears About The End Of Traditional America

    by Josh Feldman | 11:30 pm, November 15th, 2012

    Jon Stewart opened his show tonight by ripping into Mitt Romney (for possibly the last time) over his claim that President Obama beat him because he offered gifts to people. Stewart mocked Romney by pulling out a literal giant gift bag filled with weed, contraceptives, and a piñata full of green cards. But Stewart saved his sharpest jabs for Bill O’Reilly over his implication that Obama’s reelection represents the end of traditional America.


    Stewart highlighted how much O’Reilly has bemoaned the end of traditional America, which apparently is a stake in the heart of “Leave it to Beaver” or something. When O’Reilly got around to the issue of whites now in the minority, Stewart pointed out that demographics in the United States are always changing, and there’s nothing you can really do about it.

    Stewart got a little personal with O’Reilly, pointing out the United States’ history of bigotry against the Irish. As Stewart pointed out, newspapers that referred to the Irish as horrible people were at least progressive in the sense that they accepted the Irish were people.

    Stewart also relaxed O’Reilly’s fears about American’s new religious outline and the “impact of creeping secularism” affecting Catholic support for Obama. As Stewart pointed out, Catholics were marginalized for decades in the U.S., and considering that a former president once sent the army into Utah to fight the Mormons, it’s pretty remarkable we almost had a Mormon president.

    Stewart offered O’Reilly some soothing words of advice, telling him not to worry so much, because “America’s greatest tradition” is a “frightened ruling class lamenting the rise of a new ethnically and religiously diverse new class,” and every generation rises in the United States in order to give themselves and their children the opportunity to “shit on the next group” to show up.
    he is on the money ince again gotta love Jon.
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  • groovemegrooveme Posts: 353
    Well, I thought that the republican party would either examine its loss carefully and try to strike a more moderate tone or double down on the insanity/divisiveness that lead to their defeat. It looks as though Mitt has chosen the latter option. Hopefully calmer heads will prevail, although it seems too early to tell
  • groovemegrooveme Posts: 353
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
    Couldn't Mitt just blame himself for losing? Noooooooooooo, I guess not.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    grooveme wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

    to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

    lets hope he runs again.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    fife wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

    to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

    lets hope he runs again.

    BINGO!!!!!

    Would have destroyed Obama.
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  • groovemegrooveme Posts: 353
    fife wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

    to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

    lets hope he runs again.

    LOVE John Huntsman. Too bad the republican primary voters don't
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    fife wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?

    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

    to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

    lets hope he runs again.

    BINGO!!!!!

    Would have destroyed Obama.[/quote]

    I would not say destroy cause I don't think American politics allows for destruction anymore.

    I consider myself left leaning but I would have voted for Huntsman. but at the same time I think Obama has done a good job on many things
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

    http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

    It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

    I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    JimmyV wrote:
    I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

    http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

    It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

    I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

    I think the bigger issue is that these PAC can do anything they want. from everything that i have read or heard huntsman say make me believe that he is a good person. Hell, Obama picked him to be ambassador.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    fife wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

    http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

    It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

    I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

    I think the bigger issue is that these PAC can do anything they want. from everything that i have read or heard huntsman say make me believe that he is a good person. Hell, Obama picked him to be ambassador.

    I have heard similar things.
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  • JimmyV wrote:
    I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

    http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

    It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

    I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

    Ok, I get the gritty extreme close ups and washed out colour scheme. And I even get the action movie soundtrack. Why did they shoot the end on the set of Michael Jackson's "Bad" video?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    fife wrote:
    fife wrote:
    Mitt was pretty moderate before the primaries. To woo the primary voters he had to move to the right

    to answer your question yes, Jon Huntsman would have won imho.

    lets hope he runs again.

    BINGO!!!!!

    Would have destroyed Obama.

    I would not say destroy cause I don't think American politics allows for destruction anymore.

    I consider myself left leaning but I would have voted for Huntsman. but at the same time I think Obama has done a good job on many things[/quote]

    Guess I think it depends on your definition on destroy. I think Obama destroyed MItt. He won every key
    "swing state".
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    JimmyV wrote:
    I don't think Our Destiny PAC did Huntsman any favors with this ad:

    http://youtu.be/eWMmPu0OKiU

    It was all over TV here in the weeks before the New Hampshire primary, and as an independent it was a real turnoff. The angry old man who claims Obama has failed and blames the entire economy on him, the woman who condemns health care but has no idea what is in the bill, the token maybe-minority...all caricatures of a segment of the electorate I have a hard time respecting.

    I'm sure others will see it differently but this was the first glimpse I got of Huntsman and, as I said, it did him no favors.

    Ok, I get the gritty extreme close ups and washed out colour scheme. And I even get the action movie soundtrack. Why did they shoot the end on the set of Michael Jackson's "Bad" video?

    Great question! :lol:
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183

    Guess I think it depends on your definition on destroy. I think Obama destroyed MItt. He won every key
    "swing state".

    Agreed. I think that is an accurate definition in this political climate. Was the victory on the level of Reagan in 1984? No, but neither party would be able to win like that today. I think 2008 was about as close to a destruction as possible and this wasn't too far off from that.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
    I would have voted for Huntsman or Paul.

    But no, we had to vet through the whack pack of Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, and finally Romney. Hell, Palin got a closer look at it and she wasnt even in the primaries.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    this was not a close race. electoral vote difference >100, obama had at least 2.5 million more popular votes. it was not close at all. it was an ass kicking.

    romney embarrassed the gop. or the gop embarrassed itself with the candidates it chose to field.
    I certainly think out of the 133 million who voted 2.5 million is a close margin
    not as close as some elections but way closer than others

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... ote_margin
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I wonder if a more moderate Republican who ran in the primaries could have won the election?
    The episodes, the things said and done by the far right, played a part in his loss for sure.
    One would think the far right would stay quiet during the few months leading up
    to the election. Live and learn hopefully.
    I think many would have liked to vote Republican but couldn't.
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