The missing conservatives ..

usamamasan1

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

josevolution

cincybearcat wrote:

josevolution wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

to be honest, i know how the missing conservative posters on here feel. i felt it in 2004 and if i were them i would stay away for awhile too. when your side loses that big it is a little disheartening and the last thing you want to do is go back to a place like this to face any razzing or criticism.

let's cut those people some slack because i am sure that they are feeling all kinds of emotions, rejection, anger, frustration, sadness, mabe even depression. i don't like to kick people when they are down and not here to defend themselves. just my thoughts at the moment...

While i do agree , it takes more character to accept defeat and engage in moving forward rethoric than to stay away from it , they were here everysingle day bashing the Prez up till yesterday ....

Hey I still don't like Obama a whole lot. Probably a bit harsh on him as I "hoped" for "change" this time around.

I hope you guys got this one right, because if you didn;t it's gonna suck until 2016.

But you i respect you are allways here you make good points all the time i commend your character ....and i agree these next 4yrs are cruciall to how this country keeps digging itself out of this mess ...But a country thats divided can never get anything done we need to be all for one & one for all , i know it's cliche but still true ...

BinauralJam

usamamasan1 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2f6XHVv6s0 :wave:

josevolution

usamamasan1 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

I'm at work can't watch it please describe it and i can't watch it at home since i have no Electric ...

JonnyPistachio

usamamasan1 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

These last few weeks werent easy around here for you...I commend you for returning and having a sense of humor about it.

That said...

Hoot. :P

dimitrispearljam

time to repost this...

i hope this time some of you understand it..

""The value of the loser ,is what gives the glory of the winner"

BinauralJam

josevolution wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

I'm at work can't watch it please describe it and i can't watch it at home since i have no Electric ...

A person in a Bugs Bunny costume riding a rocking horse for 3 minutes.

JonnyPistachio

BinauralJam wrote:

josevolution wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

I'm at work can't watch it please describe it and i can't watch it at home since i have no Electric ...

A person in a Bugs Bunny costume riding a rocking horse for 3 minutes.

Its a bit creepy. :shifty:

Cosmo

Enkidu wrote:

I was gonna to totally avoid AMT today but I read this and had to post. I agree with you completely. And I'm a liberal. My husband is a Republican and his family was very active in the Republican party in Nevada until it was taken over by the freakish fringe Jesus nutballs so I've watched how my husband and his family felt their party abandoned them. Core values, just like you said - where did they go?

They've got to get rid of the lunatic fringe.

...
Sounds like your husband didn't leave the Republican Party... the Republican Party drove him away.
The thing that Conservatives need to understand... President Obama is a moderate. He is not on out the left fringe... he still has a lot of the Patriot Act in place because parts of it DOES help capture people looking to blow shit up... Guantanamo Bay is STILL open for business because there ARE some of those hard core Al Qaeda types there (either pro-Al Qaeda before capture or made Al Qaeda because of capture... either way, dangerous). And it is difficult to vacate a military occupation in an unstable region. That is why moderates vote for him. They don't believe the bullshit from crazies in the birther club... or the morons that don't know the difference between Socialism, Communism and Fascism... or the pissed off old people in the Tea Party who say they hate 'Socialism' while cashing Social Security checks.
President Obama also understands reality... if you want stuff like military expenditures, National Parks, airport security... it costs taxpayer dollars. You have to collect taxes if you want stuff... sort of like the way President Reagan raised taxes during his run.
If the Republican wants to win the Presidency... they need to dump their base and build up their middle, again.

BinauralJam

JonnyPistachio wrote:

A person in a Bugs Bunny costume riding a rocking horse for 3 minutes.

Its a bit creepy. :shifty:[/quote]

It is. The Good news for Usamamasan1 is, You're still Filthy Rich, I imagine your going to be o.k. :thumbup:
Keep your head up, always!

MayDay10

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

to be honest, i know how the missing conservative posters on here feel. i felt it in 2004 and if i were them i would stay away for awhile too. when your side loses that big it is a little disheartening and the last thing you want to do is go back to a place like this to face any razzing or criticism.

let's cut those people some slack because i am sure that they are feeling all kinds of emotions, rejection, anger, frustration, sadness, mabe even depression. i don't like to kick people when they are down and not here to defend themselves. just my thoughts at the moment...

although Im not one to deal it out because I dont want to be on the other end... a few people here have it coming. I stay out of this forum for the most part, but the slew of baiting and trolling from a few posters here was pretty over the top and irritating. This has been going on for a year or more.
The culprits had to expect a trebuchet of shit coming their way if 'their guy' lost. I really dont feel sorry.

vant0037

EdsonNascimento wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

They're Tired today, they stayed up the latest.

Actually, when Boehner made his not so veiled shot at Obama at like 9:30, it was clear it was over (there was no reason to comment no raising of taxes if he thought Romney even had a chance).

It will be interesting to see if Obama TRULY tries to work with the House or continues to use Reid to make it his way or no way. The blame game obviously worked, so why would anyone expect him to change for the better of the country? Here's hoping the 2 week scare after the first debate woke him up to the realities of being a GOOD leader for the benefit of the country and not just fall back on his inherrent arrogance and the wagging/pointing of his finger.

It's pretty early to start saying it's been Obama who won't compromise, don't you think? If anything, look to Mitch McConnell and his attempt to claim the "center/moderate" last night. Sorry Mitch...the election just showed you aren't the center any more.

gimmesometruth27

MayDay10 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

to be honest, i know how the missing conservative posters on here feel. i felt it in 2004 and if i were them i would stay away for awhile too. when your side loses that big it is a little disheartening and the last thing you want to do is go back to a place like this to face any razzing or criticism.

let's cut those people some slack because i am sure that they are feeling all kinds of emotions, rejection, anger, frustration, sadness, mabe even depression. i don't like to kick people when they are down and not here to defend themselves. just my thoughts at the moment...

although Im not one to deal it out because I dont want to be on the other end... a few people here have it coming. I stay out of this forum for the most part, but the slew of baiting and trolling from a few posters here was pretty over the top and irritating. This has been going on for a year or more.
The culprits had to expect a trebuchet of shit coming their way if 'their guy' lost. I really dont feel sorry.

yeah you are right. it has been well over a year. then again, the incessent trashing of obama has been going on the last 5 years. i see your point.

vant0037

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

to be honest, i know how the missing conservative posters on here feel. i felt it in 2004 and if i were them i would stay away for awhile too. when your side loses that big it is a little disheartening and the last thing you want to do is go back to a place like this to face any razzing or criticism.

let's cut those people some slack because i am sure that they are feeling all kinds of emotions, rejection, anger, frustration, sadness, mabe even depression. i don't like to kick people when they are down and not here to defend themselves. just my thoughts at the moment...

I agree with this, but at the same time, it's tough for me to feel compassion for anyone who was BEGGING...fucking begging to be called out (in the event that Obama won). There was that guy with all the exclamation points, there were full threads proclaiming Romney the winner, it was pretty awful on here for a few weeks.

I'm all about compromise and working together and not trash-talking, but for exactly the reason some posters are conspicuously absent today. When you put yourself out there by trash-talking, you are a huge target when things don't go your way.

fife

I just have some questions for people.

do you think that if the conservatives moved more to the middle what would happen to the people on the far right? do you think they would create their own party? and if they do have their own party, would that split the vote between the center-right and the far right and therefore create a center-left government all the time?

gimmesometruth27

fife wrote:

I just have some questions for people.

do you think that if the conservatives moved more to the middle what would happen to the people on the far right? do you think they would create their own party? and if they do have their own party, would that split the vote between the center-right and the far right and therefore create a center-left government all the time?

i don't see the far right moving to the center. the center right would appeal to a much broader base than the far right leadership in the gop. the gop allowed itself to be overrun by extremists and they are paying for it. i think the gop has an identity crisis and they are torn between too many factions, ie tea party, jesus party, neo-cons...all of those mix like oil and water and the infighting seen today is evidence of that. the fingerpointing and blame and monday morning quarterbacking is going to be what people remember most about the gop this election cycle. that and rove losing his shit on national tv...

YLed2

EdsonNascimento wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

They're Tired today, they stayed up the latest.

Actually, when Boehner made his not so veiled shot at Obama at like 9:30, it was clear it was over (there was no reason to comment no raising of taxes if he thought Romney even had a chance).

It will be interesting to see if Obama TRULY tries to work with the House or continues to use Reid to make it his way or no way. The blame game obviously worked, so why would anyone expect him to change for the better of the country? Here's hoping the 2 week scare after the first debate woke him up to the realities of being a GOOD leader for the benefit of the country and not just fall back on his inherrent arrogance and the wagging/pointing of his finger.

Well, I believe you are wrong if you are trying to say Romney is a conservative.

You can expect 4 more years of the latter with no results, an economy that will continue to limp along, with increased spending and increased deficit. And come on, do you really think Obama is going to try and reach across the aisle and work with the House? Really? What has he done in the past 4 years that would suggest he would?

I hate to say it, but I think America has changed and we are no longer a country of self empowerment and fulfillment and have turned into a country based more on entitlement, gross government spending, and people, who quite frankly, like "stuff" given to them. Unfortunately, I believe that is a fact and this election proved it.

In my opinion, this country is about as divided as it can get and we will be in gridlock and it will be difficult to get anything accomplished for the next four years. I hope with all my being that I am wrong.

This is coming from a socially liberal, fiscal and economic conservative. Here's to hoping the next four years are better than the last four years. But, I thought we were given that "Hope" in 2008?

acutejam

The United States is a far more complicated and resilient organism than we give it credit for. Whatever’s ahead we’ll tackle, and it won’t matter much who’s president. Obama has had some great moment, he's earned another four year, but his shortcomings are also of epic proportions when it comes to being presidential.

I think we're going to see a pretty good stream of "now the tell us" reporting as well: there's a Pulitzer waiting on Benghazi, Obamacare is not going to be pretty, the economy is not going to be pretty, the debt crisis never really went away...

As for being a Libertarian now, it's kinda exciting -- I'm pretty much upset no matter how elections turn out!

But yes, as I've read here and other places all morning -- this nation is tragically, mind-numbingly divided and nothing looks to be on the horizon to overcome that.

Byrnzie

cincybearcat wrote:

I hope you guys got this one right, because if you didn;t it's gonna suck until 2016.

What's gonna suck? Does your well-being depend on who happens to be President of your country? :?

And as for getting anything right, what would have been right about electing a shifty used-car salesman whose main ambition was to grease the palms of the mega-rich, provoke another Palestinian intifada, and drag America into a war with Iran?

comebackgirl

usamamasan1 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Someone had to ask where are you guys today , you know who you are :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnenIqcz0Q&sns=em

A special Pearl Jam dedication just for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIixVZ1y2zo
HOOT!