How the World would vote in this election

Moonpig

So I was having a read there this morning and came across this. Why do you believe these nations would vote so overwhelmingly in favor of the incumbent?

What is it that either, we are not seeing / or the American people are not seeing?

I really do not understand how the race is so close, so I suppose this article backs it up for me.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... -landslide

dimitrispearljam

i expect that at European countires..i thought will be more close at UK..

Moonpig

I would imagine that with the exception, Pakistan, it would be more down to the drone strikes as opposed to them actually wanting to vote Romney.

Actually, how does that point fly with some of you?, A Muslim country where Obama is not popular, due to incursions and attacks.

Weren't some of you saying that, as he was a secret Muslim, he would be more sympathetic to these type nations?? Another hunch blown out of the water by facts and real world events.

Jason P

I would think that Pakistan would appreciate that Obama has pledged more to flood relief then their own government has.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-outspends-islamabad-flood-relief-pakistan-133504083.html

satansbed

It's mainly because the rest of the world is more comfortable with the role of government in society, it's all down to the u.s's fairly unique political culture

Moonpig

satansbed wrote:

It's mainly because the rest of the world is more comfortable with the role of government in society, it's all down to the u.s's fairly unique political culture

Are you referring to the; "i need my guns to protect me from my government" crowd?

satansbed

Moonpig wrote:

satansbed wrote:

It's mainly because the rest of the world is more comfortable with the role of government in society, it's all down to the u.s's fairly unique political culture

Are you referring to the; "i need my guns to protect me from my government" crowd?

Well partly, I mean that's a very narrow stream of them but historically that sentiment has been strong, there's also a very weak welfare state because Europeans have a much stronger view of the security net, and even the right wing parties want socialised healthcare there

MayDay10

its because they all want to keep the United States w34k

Moonpig

MayDay10 wrote:

its because they all want to keep the United States w34k

Damn, he's rumbled us.

This is a joke right?

MayDay10

yes

Go Beavers

satansbed wrote:

It's mainly because the rest of the world is more comfortable with the role of government in society, it's all down to the u.s's fairly unique political culture

I'd say it's a nod to Obama about his ability to operate with other countries and their government effectively, way more than what Romney puts out there. Regarding international relations, Romney will be someone's puppet, just not sure whose puppet that will be if he's elected.

Moonpig

What is it about Romney that has nearly half the country voting for him though?

How can the all these stats be at such odds?

pjl44

Jason P wrote:

I would think that Pakistan would appreciate that Obama has pledged more to flood relief then their own government has.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-outspends-islamabad-flood-relief-pakistan-133504083.html

I guess the drone strikes and military presence cheese them off more than a stack of cash makes up for. Weird.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers wrote:

satansbed wrote:

It's mainly because the rest of the world is more comfortable with the role of government in society, it's all down to the u.s's fairly unique political culture

I'd say it's a nod to Obama about his ability to operate with other countries and their government effectively, way more than what Romney puts out there. Regarding international relations, Romney will be someone's puppet, just not sure whose puppet that will be if he's elected.

I'd comfortably say it is more than a nod.

fear4freedom

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advance our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

Moonpig

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advance our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

No you're dead right, we're all against you. It's been a conspiracy from the start. Bloody Canadians with all that red in their flag, what's all that about?

Most of these countries would be considered strong allies but hey whatever.

polaris_x

i would say most of the world would vote 3rd party in the US ...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advance our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

This post embodies (and feeds) the stereotype that most Americans I know truly regret and despise.

Zoso

I think this says something about America and the rest of the world.. America are the only country that don't mind a little government management.. it works for them so why not in America. Bush would have had a worse percentage around the world.

fear4freedom

Moonpig wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advanItsce our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

No you're dead right, we're all against you. It's been a conspiracy from the start. Bloody Canadians with all that red in their flag, what's all that about?

Most of these countries would be considered strong allies but hey whatever.

You did not answer the questions. You are all for us when you need us, but there is a certain level of anti-Americanism in the sense that most nations just want America to be one level above them, not many levels above them. Many nations want us to remain just within reach, but never too far ahead. Also, many of those nations listed would love for us to have a "wake up call". I also think some would like us to fall, altogether! You dont think that? You just think that all these nations want us to be stronger than ever? LOL Its like you and your best friend when you were growing up.....you were kinda happy for him when he could bench press 300lbs, but not so happy when he landed all the girls! Another analogy could be when we got hit on 9/11, im sure countries like Russia and China were calling us with their condolences, but had a sense of "joy" when they were hanging up the phone.

Zoso

fear4freedom wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advanItsce our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

No you're dead right, we're all against you. It's been a conspiracy from the start. Bloody Canadians with all that red in their flag, what's all that about?

Most of these countries would be considered strong allies but hey whatever.

You did not answer the questions. You are all for us when you need us, but there is a certain level of anti-Americanism in the sense that most nations just want America to be one level above them, not many levels above them. Many nations want us to remain just within reach, but never too far ahead. Also, many of those nations listed would love for us to have a "wake up call". I also think some would like us to fall, altogether! You dont think that? You just think that all these nations want us to be stronger than ever? LOL Its like you and your best friend when you were growing up.....you were kinda happy for him when he could bench press 300lbs, but not so happy when he landed all the girls! Another analogy could be when we got hit on 9/11, im sure countries like Russia and China were calling us with their condolences, but had a sense of "joy" when they were hanging up the phone.

well countries like Australia etc aren't against the USA.. we believe we're a better nation then America.. the issue is no wants another Bush type president effing the world up like he did.. Obama is a much more diplomatic president. More likeable as a world leader then Romney..

Thirty Bills Unpaid

fear4freedom wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advanItsce our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

No you're dead right, we're all against you. It's been a conspiracy from the start. Bloody Canadians with all that red in their flag, what's all that about?

Most of these countries would be considered strong allies but hey whatever.

You did not answer the questions. You are all for us when you need us, but there is a certain level of anti-Americanism in the sense that most nations just want America to be one level above them, not many levels above them. Many nations want us to remain just within reach, but never too far ahead. Also, many of those nations listed would love for us to have a "wake up call". I also think some would like us to fall, altogether! You dont think that? You just think that all these nations want us to be stronger than ever? LOL Its like you and your best friend when you were growing up.....you were kinda happy for him when he could bench press 300lbs, but not so happy when he landed all the girls! Another analogy could be when we got hit on 9/11, im sure countries like Russia and China were calling us with their condolences, but had a sense of "joy" when they were hanging up the phone.

Most nations want America to be one level above them but not a lot of levels above them.

That is awesome.

Zoso

I can't believe people think America is above other countries especially other westernized anglo countries :fp: :fp: :fp: that is an issue.

fear4freedom

Zoso wrote:

I can't believe people think America is above other countries especially other westernized anglo countries :fp: :fp: :fp: that is an issue.

Like i said, we will be there to defend you and help you in an instant when extremists try to hurt you!
Ok so these other countries that you speak of, they do what we do? on the level that we do it?

Zoso

fear4freedom wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I can't believe people think America is above other countries especially other westernized anglo countries :fp: :fp: :fp: that is an issue.

Like i said, we will be there to defend you and help you in an instant when extremists try to hurt you!
Ok so these other countries that you speak of, they do what we do? on the level that we do it?

that's because America is a larger country then Australia, Canada etc... doesn't mean USA is better or above anyone else.. does it?

fear4freedom

Zoso wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I can't believe people think America is above other countries especially other westernized anglo countries :fp: :fp: :fp: that is an issue.

Like i said, we will be there to defend you and help you in an instant when extremists try to hurt you!
Ok so these other countries that you speak of, they do what we do? on the level that we do it?

that's because America is a larger country then Australia, Canada etc... doesn't mean USA is better or above anyone else.. does it?

Well China, Russia and Canada are all larger then USA, you want the world to be modeled after RUSSIA?
To be honest....people are all the same as individuals and noone is better than anyone else. USA is unique and does have a unique role in this world in which we live!

Zoso

per land mass canada is large.. I meant by population obviously and military size... Australia is the same size as the USA with a lot less people... I meant by population of course. I don't want the world modeled after Russoa, China or the USA.. Many european countries, canada, new zealand and australia have got it right.

dimitrispearljam

fear4freedom wrote:

Does anyone here believe that these countries want us to be strong and get stronger? Do you think they want us to protect our borders, advance our ideals, project our influence, build our military, strengthen our dollar and fly our flag with more pride than each day? Do you seriously think they wish us well and hope for us to strengthen our country? Please answer with substance and clear, logical reason!

yeah..polish ,spanish ,Australian people..from the moment they woke in the morning the first and only think how to destroy America...
the most of those countries are Allies to Usa,they even bomb together with usa their "enemies"...

stop searching evil and enemies out of your boarders....the problem is inside...

that control your minds with guided media..and people think Paris is the capital of India...

culture,history,civilization, cant build with guns,smart bombs... CNN..burgers and diet coke

polaris_x

Zoso wrote:

per land mass canada is large.. I meant by population obviously and military size... Australia is the same size as the USA with a lot less people... I meant by population of course. I don't want the world modeled after Russoa, China or the USA.. Many european countries, canada, new zealand and australia have got it right.

sorry ... canada has gone pear shaped ... best to use other countries ...

Zoso

polaris_x wrote:

Zoso wrote:

per land mass canada is large.. I meant by population obviously and military size... Australia is the same size as the USA with a lot less people... I meant by population of course. I don't want the world modeled after Russoa, China or the USA.. Many european countries, canada, new zealand and australia have got it right.

sorry ... canada has gone pear shaped ... best to use other countries ...

ok I will stick with Australia and New Zealand

MotoDC

Zoso wrote:

I can't believe people think America is above other countries especially other westernized anglo countries :fp: :fp: :fp: that is an issue.

Didn't you just say that you think your country is better than America? Ah yes:

zoso wrote:

well countries like Australia etc aren't against the USA.. we believe we're a better nation then America..

So you think it's an issue that some Americans think America is "above other countries" while simultaneously believing that your country is better than America? Interesting.