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RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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10/31/09- Philly
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9/2/12- Philly, PA
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10/21/13- Philly, PA
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10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
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RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
Not counting budget-related things. The original movie only has one flaw. It's the whole Home Alone setting-up-traps sequence. It's both pointless and makes it "silly". We know from the scene with Glen on the bridge that she is done running and will confront Freddy, and she knows she will try to drag him out for her dad to arrest him. Cut out the traps, and you can have the film play out pretty much the same. Freddy can still catch fire if you want to have a cool fire stunt in the film.
Nancy kind of ends there in other endings shot for the film. In Wes original ending e.g. And her being in "sequels" is factually incorrect...
The remake sucks. The "The Texas Chainsaw massacre" remake from 2003 does not. The Amityville Horror remake from... eh... 2005(?) does not. The Thing from... hmm... sometime in the early 80s does not. So, i'm just resistant to shit.
Zombies Halloween-films are bad also.
If you are hesitant about the Elm Street series. You should watch the third one. Meaning, if you are not all in you can skip part 2. And after the third one, whatever you do at least also watch WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE from 94.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
John Carpenter’s The Thing is awesome. Quite different in some ways from the original 1950s version. Those practical effects are killer. Kurt Russell! Morricone on the soundtrack. Did I mention Kurt Russell? 80s Carpenter is great. And I love his soundtracks! Wish I’d seen him on tour. Could have been interesting.
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
Not counting budget-related things. The original movie only has one flaw. It's the whole Home Alone setting-up-traps sequence. It's both pointless and makes it "silly". We know from the scene with Glen on the bridge that she is done running and will confront Freddy, and she knows she will try to drag him out for her dad to arrest him. Cut out the traps, and you can have the film play out pretty much the same. Freddy can still catch fire if you want to have a cool fire stunt in the film.
Nancy kind of ends there in other endings shot for the film. In Wes original ending e.g. And her being in "sequels" is factually incorrect...
The remake sucks. The "The Texas Chainsaw massacre" remake from 2003 does not. The Amityville Horror remake from... eh... 2005(?) does not. The Thing from... hmm... sometime in the early 80s does not. So, i'm just resistant to shit.
Zombies Halloween-films are bad also.
If you are hesitant about the Elm Street series. You should watch the third one. Meaning, if you are not all in you can skip part 2. And after the third one, whatever you do at least also watch WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE from 94.
Yeah, I started 2.
The traps is an odd and unnecessary thing. Like the sledge hammer swings down and knocks freddy back a couple feet and he gives an 'oof' and thats it. Wow, great.
One of the better explanations of the ending is foiled a bit by those traps. Its ambiguous in all the layers at the end of what is real and what is dreams. It all could have been a dream setup, but why would the traps exist in Freddy's dream world.
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
Not counting budget-related things. The original movie only has one flaw. It's the whole Home Alone setting-up-traps sequence. It's both pointless and makes it "silly". We know from the scene with Glen on the bridge that she is done running and will confront Freddy, and she knows she will try to drag him out for her dad to arrest him. Cut out the traps, and you can have the film play out pretty much the same. Freddy can still catch fire if you want to have a cool fire stunt in the film.
Nancy kind of ends there in other endings shot for the film. In Wes original ending e.g. And her being in "sequels" is factually incorrect...
The remake sucks. The "The Texas Chainsaw massacre" remake from 2003 does not. The Amityville Horror remake from... eh... 2005(?) does not. The Thing from... hmm... sometime in the early 80s does not. So, i'm just resistant to shit.
Zombies Halloween-films are bad also.
If you are hesitant about the Elm Street series. You should watch the third one. Meaning, if you are not all in you can skip part 2. And after the third one, whatever you do at least also watch WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE from 94.
Yeah, I started 2.
TAKE IN THE QUEER UNDERTONES
and
Freddy having the most scary makeup in the whole series.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
Not counting budget-related things. The original movie only has one flaw. It's the whole Home Alone setting-up-traps sequence. It's both pointless and makes it "silly". We know from the scene with Glen on the bridge that she is done running and will confront Freddy, and she knows she will try to drag him out for her dad to arrest him. Cut out the traps, and you can have the film play out pretty much the same. Freddy can still catch fire if you want to have a cool fire stunt in the film.
Nancy kind of ends there in other endings shot for the film. In Wes original ending e.g. And her being in "sequels" is factually incorrect...
The remake sucks. The "The Texas Chainsaw massacre" remake from 2003 does not. The Amityville Horror remake from... eh... 2005(?) does not. The Thing from... hmm... sometime in the early 80s does not. So, i'm just resistant to shit.
Zombies Halloween-films are bad also.
If you are hesitant about the Elm Street series. You should watch the third one. Meaning, if you are not all in you can skip part 2. And after the third one, whatever you do at least also watch WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE from 94.
Yeah, I started 2.
TAKE IN THE QUEER UNDERTONES
and
Freddy having the most scary makeup in the whole series.
OK, I finished 2...
Um, yeah. That didnt seem to have much to do with Freddy or Nightmare on Elm Street. It kind of doesnt make sense
However, I read about how the movie is probably a metaphor about a gay kid who is suppressing his "monster" (gayness) and the movie makes a whole lot more sense.
I watched Nightmare on Elm Street over the last 2 nights. That was the first time I have seen any movie in the series (late I know). I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
I'm not resistant to giving credit to remakes, and I can confirm that this remake really does suck.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Watching Nightmare on Elm Street 3 now. I think I have about 35-40 minutes left.
That is really good. IMO way better than 1 and of course 2. Freddy is what I had pictured him as and much better of a villain. A guy who can manifest as things in people's dreams. The manifestations were personalized for the victim. It was only 3 years, (and probably a larger budget), but the special effects are so much better in 3 than 1.
Watching Nightmare on Elm Street 3 now. I think I have about 35-40 minutes left.
That is really good. IMO way better than 1 and of course 2. Freddy is what I had pictured him as and much better of a villain. A guy who can manifest as things in people's dreams. The manifestations were personalized for the victim. It was only 3 years, (and probably a larger budget), but the special effects are so much better in 3 than 1.
It’s definietly the cemented look and vibe of Freddy and the franchise.
It was a ”real” production though with a ”resonable” budget, while the first one was an independant low budget film made for like 800.000 dollars. Chuck Russel did squeeze everthing possible from part 3s budget. It has a lot of neet stuff in it.
What I don’t like about part 3 is the adding of supernatural/magic elements to the mythology. For me, horror is about our real and known world and that one (unknown) thing that breaks the rules of reality and how people of our reality confronts it. Freddy is that one thing. With making up and adding peoples ability to have dream powers (while loosely in the realm of what Freddy does) I feel cheapen it for me. Together with nun-ghosts.The first (and second one) are stronger, purer and cleaner.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Watching Nightmare on Elm Street 3 now. I think I have about 35-40 minutes left.
That is really good. IMO way better than 1 and of course 2. Freddy is what I had pictured him as and much better of a villain. A guy who can manifest as things in people's dreams. The manifestations were personalized for the victim. It was only 3 years, (and probably a larger budget), but the special effects are so much better in 3 than 1.
It’s definietly the cemented look and vibe of Freddy and the franchise.
It was a ”real” production though with a ”resonable” budget, while the first one was an independant low budget film made for like 800.000 dollars. Chuck Russel did squeeze everthing possible from part 3s budget. It has a lot of neet stuff in it.
What I don’t like about part 3 is the adding of supernatural/magic elements to the mythology. For me, horror is about our real and known world and that one (unknown) thing that breaks the rules of reality and how people of our reality confronts it. Freddy is that one thing. With making up and adding peoples ability to have dream powers (while loosely in the realm of what Freddy does) I feel cheapen it for me. Together with nun-ghosts.The first (and second one) are stronger, purer and cleaner.
I finished the movie.
I get what you are saying, but I don't think I agree. Those dream powers were all pretty much crap and those people were crushed by Freddy like ants, and for all we know, Nancy was just trying to give them confidence to empower themselves in their dreams and fight back (there was a whole fear makes Freddy stronger element at the end of the 1st one). You are also dealing with dreams where it isn't out of bounds that people can twist reality. The only actual 'power' was Kristen's ability to draw others into her dream, which was basically a cheap and necessary vehicle for the writer to be able to get the entire cast within the same dream. The quiet kid yelled and broke all the mirrors that one time, and Kristen did some of the gymnastics moves to evade getting diced. Other than that, the "Dream Warriors" didn't accomplish anything except getting themselves killed. Bill Maher doctor guy actually is the one who vanquished Freddy.
I also thought the ghost nun was fine. It was a way to paint a clearer and more sinister picture of Freddy's backstory and also point the protagonists toward a way to defeat (help?) Freddy. Then you had the mini twist at the end where the nun was/is Freddy's mom.
I think my favorite part was the Zsa Zsa Gabor interview. I chuckled
If there was a 'weak' point, Id say it was when Freddy was allowed to just leave the dream and become his mega powered skeleton and prevent Bill Maher from burying him in real life. Also, when Bill Maher fell into the grave, and Freddy shoveled 2 shovelfuls of dirt on him and took off like his job was done.
Overall, I thought it was a terrific horror movie, and in my opinion, far eclipses I and II. The characters were better, the plot was better, Freddy was better (although something is to be said about a villain with more minimal screen time too), and of course a much larger budget and effects. You had a little bit of dark humor, and there were definitely parts that made me cringe with gore. If I saw this movie in 1987, my mind would have been blown.
I think I see where this is going to go from here though. It is going to become the "Freddy show" and each movie after this is going to be him doing a stand-up routine with extra-crazy ways to make killings on a bunch of red-shirts and it will cheapen the series and it won't ever come close to #3 again.
You are pretty spot on about where it is heading. But no need to stop if you still like it. Renny Harlin's entry is up. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BURIED ME... I'M NOT DEAD...
Also, Freddy could have pulled everyone into the same dream to have them watch each other suffer. Or whatever. I'm not a fan of the Power Rangers-dream powers thing and stretching, kitchen-sinking the magic. But it does make the film entertaining.
And Dokken does too. INTO THE FIRE!
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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The Exorcist…saw it in the cinemas when it was re-released years ago. Didn’t sleep that night!
Blair Witch Project
Poltergeist
Scream…not really that scary but made me
numo every now and then.
Melbourne #2 '03
Melbourne #3 '03
Melbourne #1 '06
Melbourne #3 '06
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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I was terrified to watch it in the 80s when I was a little kid, and just never did. Slasher style movies have never been my thing.
I thought it was interesting. Definitely a great movie for its time, and must have been mind blowing... but I don't think it aged entirely well. Dialog and plot is extremely hollow. A lot of the music/tones used as bumpers between scenes was super-70s/80s. The ending seemed a bit sloppy (honestly would have been a terrific ending if Nancy's character ended there (I'm aware she is in sequels). Its definitely a classic.
Im curious if I would have liked the darker, more modern 2010 remake. That seems to get bad reviews, but a lot of people are resistant to giving remakes of classics credit. I never watched a Halloween movie either, until I watched Rob Zombie's. I thought it was pretty good, but that one gets hate too.
Nancy kind of ends there in other endings shot for the film. In Wes original ending e.g. And her being in "sequels" is factually incorrect...
The remake sucks. The "The Texas Chainsaw massacre" remake from 2003 does not. The Amityville Horror remake from... eh... 2005(?) does not. The Thing from... hmm... sometime in the early 80s does not. So, i'm just resistant to shit.
Zombies Halloween-films are bad also.
If you are hesitant about the Elm Street series. You should watch the third one. Meaning, if you are not all in you can skip part 2. And after the third one, whatever you do at least also watch WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE from 94.
The traps is an odd and unnecessary thing. Like the sledge hammer swings down and knocks freddy back a couple feet and he gives an 'oof' and thats it. Wow, great.
One of the better explanations of the ending is foiled a bit by those traps. Its ambiguous in all the layers at the end of what is real and what is dreams. It all could have been a dream setup, but why would the traps exist in Freddy's dream world.
and
Freddy having the most scary makeup in the whole series.
Um, yeah. That didnt seem to have much to do with Freddy or Nightmare on Elm Street. It kind of doesnt make sense
However, I read about how the movie is probably a metaphor about a gay kid who is suppressing his "monster" (gayness) and the movie makes a whole lot more sense.
That looks fun, lol. The rating is HORRIBLE - 2.9 on IMDB hahaha - but I'm going to watch it today.
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That is really good. IMO way better than 1 and of course 2. Freddy is what I had pictured him as and much better of a villain. A guy who can manifest as things in people's dreams. The manifestations were personalized for the victim. It was only 3 years, (and probably a larger budget), but the special effects are so much better in 3 than 1.
I liked that second best, after Johnny Depp getting slaughtered in the first one.
Corny/awesome Dokken song, as well.
It was a ”real” production though with a ”resonable” budget, while the first one was an independant low budget film made for like 800.000 dollars. Chuck Russel did squeeze everthing possible from part 3s budget. It has a lot of neet stuff in it.
What I don’t like about part 3 is the adding of supernatural/magic elements to the mythology. For me, horror is about our real and known world and that one (unknown) thing that breaks the rules of reality and how people of our reality confronts it. Freddy is that one thing. With making up and adding peoples ability to have dream powers (while loosely in the realm of what Freddy does) I feel cheapen it for me. Together with nun-ghosts.The first (and second one) are stronger, purer and cleaner.
I get what you are saying, but I don't think I agree. Those dream powers were all pretty much crap and those people were crushed by Freddy like ants, and for all we know, Nancy was just trying to give them confidence to empower themselves in their dreams and fight back (there was a whole fear makes Freddy stronger element at the end of the 1st one). You are also dealing with dreams where it isn't out of bounds that people can twist reality.
The only actual 'power' was Kristen's ability to draw others into her dream, which was basically a cheap and necessary vehicle for the writer to be able to get the entire cast within the same dream. The quiet kid yelled and broke all the mirrors that one time, and Kristen did some of the gymnastics moves to evade getting diced. Other than that, the "Dream Warriors" didn't accomplish anything except getting themselves killed. Bill Maher doctor guy actually is the one who vanquished Freddy.
I also thought the ghost nun was fine. It was a way to paint a clearer and more sinister picture of Freddy's backstory and also point the protagonists toward a way to defeat (help?) Freddy. Then you had the mini twist at the end where the nun was/is Freddy's mom.
I think my favorite part was the Zsa Zsa Gabor interview. I chuckled
If there was a 'weak' point, Id say it was when Freddy was allowed to just leave the dream and become his mega powered skeleton and prevent Bill Maher from burying him in real life. Also, when Bill Maher fell into the grave, and Freddy shoveled 2 shovelfuls of dirt on him and took off like his job was done.
Overall, I thought it was a terrific horror movie, and in my opinion, far eclipses I and II. The characters were better, the plot was better, Freddy was better (although something is to be said about a villain with more minimal screen time too), and of course a much larger budget and effects. You had a little bit of dark humor, and there were definitely parts that made me cringe with gore. If I saw this movie in 1987, my mind would have been blown.
I think I see where this is going to go from here though. It is going to become the "Freddy show" and each movie after this is going to be him doing a stand-up routine with extra-crazy ways to make killings on a bunch of red-shirts and it will cheapen the series and it won't ever come close to #3 again.
Also, Freddy could have pulled everyone into the same dream to have them watch each other suffer. Or whatever. I'm not a fan of the Power Rangers-dream powers thing and stretching, kitchen-sinking the magic. But it does make the film entertaining.
And Dokken does too. INTO THE FIRE!
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