This is a running conversation of debate while we watch!

fear4freedom

Tonights debate! 13 questions from undecided voters that only the moderator only knows. She will supposedly break the rules and do follow ups and add to the conversation and questions. The questions are, will she try to stump Romney, will she be biased, will she be fair? She is a known liberal but to be fair, she is a pretty well known journalist. Now for the debate itself, a town hall setting supposedly favors Obama, thats what most people think! Romney will base his message on facts while Obama will base his message on emotions. Will Libya situation come up and will Obama be truthful about it? As the debate carries on, let us post here!

Prince Of Dorkness

Here.

fear4freedom

Can we break the twitter record during this debate? 10,000,000 over 90 minutes! Here we go!!!!
:?:

Wilds

Love this about the undecided voters.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzOdzhveZM

fear4freedom

hmmm 5,000,000 jobs in last 30 months? Please prove that!

fear4freedom

increase in coal empolyment and production? Please fact check that one!

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Anyone else watching the CNN stream & having problems? :x

And was it one of you who wrote the comment I read on CNN regarding the first question: "Jeremy spoke in class today"?

fear4freedom

uh oh Obama drilling more than Bush? WOW on public lands? So now is Obama "MR. OIL MAN?"

Paige-Roo

What wrong with not giving permits to protect the environment? Romney's plan will make many parts of the United States unlivable. :evil:

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Maybe they should have put a physical barrier between them.

fear4freedom

So gas prices were very low cause the economy was about to fall? WHAT? Never heard that before!
What is Obama thinking?

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I don't want a President who's going to push for oil & coal.

And I don't remember seeing gas less than $2 three years ago. :?

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fear4freedom wrote:

So gas prices were very low cause the economy was about to fall? WHAT? Never heard that before!
What is Obama thinking?

I wonder if my online stream is behind yours or if you just type WAY faster than I do.

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Good question about tax deductions.

Paige-Roo

Gas price was highest in the summer of 2008 in the New York metropolitan area.

Here you go - Romney's 20% deduction again. Anyone making $200,000 = middleclass?

fear4freedom

Paige-Roo wrote:

What wrong with not giving permits to protect the environment? Romney's plan will make many parts of the United States unlivable. :evil:

UNLIVABLE? EXPLAIN?

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Wait wait - Did he just say I shouldn't worry about paying taxes on my income from interest, dividends, & capital gains?? I don't make enough money to have income from those things! How could he be that out of touch? :fp:

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I think Romney's mixing his numbers. He said he'll lower taxes for lower-income people but not for higher-income people, who will still be paying 60%. It's dollars in one part of the comparison & % in the other. You can't compare the two. If the higher-income people still pay 60%, the lower-income people will still pay 40%. If the proportions remain the same & the lower-income people pay less in $, the the higher-income people will necessarily pay less in $ - so that's a contradiction.

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So Romney's just not answering her question about what he'll do if the math somehow ends up not adding up like he think it will. He's just talking shit about Obama instead of answering the question.

fear4freedom

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I think Romney's mixing his numbers. He said he'll lower taxes for lower-income people but not for higher-income people, who will still be paying 60%. It's dollars in one part of the comparison & % in the other. You can't compare the two. If the higher-income people still pay 60%, the lower-income people will still pay 40%. If the proportions remain the same & the lower-income people pay less in $, the the higher-income people will necessarily pay more in $ - so that's a contradiction.

Middle class pays %35 and lower class pays about %5

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"They brought us whole binders full of women."

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WTF?? He's not answering the question about fair pay for women. He said (1) he looked for women for his cabinet, (2) he thinks employers should have flexible scheduled - but didn't say anything he'll do to support that, & (3) that women's inequality will magically dissipate under a strong economy.

Obama's got a great point recognizing that women's ability to plan their families & have access to child care totally affects women in the workplace.

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I don't think it's fair to fault Obama for the deficit increasing. Doesn't the deficit increase under every President? And I'm pretty sure I read that it's increased less under Obama than it normally does. :?

fear4freedom

cut taxes but all the other things middle and lower class pay for have doubled! GAS< FOOD< INS< HEALTH<
devaluation of the dollar! NO GOOD and life costs more for everyone now! FACT

fear4freedom

cut taxes but all the other things middle and lower class pay for have doubled! GAS< FOOD< INS< HEALTH<
devaluation of the dollar! NO GOOD and life costs more for everyone now! FACT

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Maybe "us" wasn't the best word for Obama to use when referring to people who are struggling.

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fear4freedom wrote:

cut taxes but all the other things middle and lower class pay for have doubled! GAS< FOOD< INS< HEALTH<
devaluation of the dollar! NO GOOD and life costs more for everyone now! FACT

I don't know the stats on the other things, but health care really is becoming more affordable for a lot of people.

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Wait - did she ask about immigrants or undocumented immigrants?

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How do those who come here illegally bump those in line to come here illegally? :?

I think it's really important for undocumented immigrants to have driver's licenses. We give them to them in my state & I feel safer because of it.

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Romney shouldn't've told the moderator "no".

Wait - did he just say he supports the part of the AZ law that says you can ask people for their papers?

fear4freedom

HMMMM OBAMA knew what Romney was going to say and he didnt want that brought up did he? Interesting!
Obama has investments all over seas too! He surely didnt want America to hear that