TV Series - VS - Movies

81

The Juggler wrote:

those numbers are misleading. it's because tickets cost more.

we already went over that. last couple of years, ticket prices have only maginally gone up.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

those numbers are misleading. it's because tickets cost more.

we already went over that. last couple of years, ticket prices have only maginally gone up.

i haven't read the whole thread...

but when they talk about "all time" records...most of the movies in those lists are from the last 10 years or so because ticket prices are way higher these days compared to years past. the reality is less and less people are actually going to the theater:

http://business.time.com/2012/02/16/mos ... -nowadays/

Most People Rarely—Or Never—Go to the Movies Nowadays
By Brad TuttleFeb. 16, 2012Add a Comment

Average movie-ticket price edges up to a record $7.93 for 2011 Los Angeles Times
Movie Ticket Prices Hit All-Time High in 2011 Hollywood Reporter

If you still go to the movies fairly regularly, you’re in the minority, according to a new survey.

On the behalf of CouponCabin, Harris Interactive conducted a poll gauging consumer interest in hitting the movie theater. For the most part, interest is fading.

Slightly more than 6 in 10 (61%) of adults said that they rarely or never go out to the movies. What’s more, of those who do go to the movies, more than half (55%) said that they go see films less often now than they did before the recession. Here’s one possible explanation for why there’s so much elbow room in movie theaters of late:

“Entertainment spending, like going to the movies, is often one of the first things to go when consumers try to cut back,” said Jackie Warrick, President and Chief Savings Officer at CouponCabin.com.

Well, actually, no. That’s not really the case. During the onset of the recession, there was actually a record-setting uptick in movie tickets sold, especially for silly, take-your-mind-off-things films like “Paul Blart: Mall Cop.” The theory is that, when the economy turns south, there’s a rise in affordable splurges like romance novels and donuts because people want to treat themselves in minor, inexpensive ways.


The National Association of Theatre Owners notes that “movie theaters do especially well during economic downturns,” and that during six of the past eight recessions in the U.S., box office and admissions sales increased. So theaters can’t use “the economy’s bad” as an excuse for lame sales.

Movie theaters fared quite poorly during the economically shaky year of 2011. Last year saw the fewest movie tickets sold since 1995, with overall revenues dropping by 4.5% compared to 2010—despite the fact that theaters were receiving the highest-ever amount per moviegoer. For a spell recently, the average ticket sold crossed the $8 threshold for the first time ever, thanks partly to the spread of pricier 3-D films. Overall, reported the Los Angeles Times and others, the average ticket price for 2011 was $7.93, up from $7.89 in 2010.

During tough economic times, consumers will always seek out affordable splurges. It just seems like, for many people, going to the movies no longer seems all that affordable, nor particularly worth the money. A family of four can easily expect to pay $75 or more for treats at the theater and admissions to an 85-minute movie—that you’ll surely be able to buy for less than $10 a few months down the line.


Perhaps, then, people are staying away from movie theaters not because the economy’s bad, but because movies cost too damn much. And because the movies being shown aren’t particularly good. And because paying an extra $5 for a mediocre film in 3-D is a rip-off. And because most households are already paying around $100 a month for cable and movie channels at home, as well as another $9 or more for Netflix or some other service. And because a DVD rental at Redbox costs just a bit over $1. And … well, you get the picture.


Read more: http://business.time.com/2012/02/16/mos ... z2DLDcH3GC

81

like i said earlier in the thread, marginal uptick in ticket prices over the last couple of years......

btw, looking at candy bar prices the other day...and they wanted 89 cents for a reg. snickers. i remember when it was less than 50

The Juggler

81 wrote:

like i said earlier in the thread, marginal uptick in ticket prices over the last couple of years......

btw, looking at candy bar prices the other day...and they wanted 89 cents for a reg. snickers. i remember when it was less than 50

the point is you have to look at actual tickets sold, not total revenue. ticket prices over the last 5-10 years are way higher than they used to be. that is why all of these movies breaking "all time" records that were set within the past few years.

actual tickets sold are way less...they just cost more.

81

ticket prices this year are only up a penny.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

i agree, it's important to look at tickets sold.....but at the same time, you still need to look at revenue, since cash is king.

as a film maker, at the end of the day, i don't care about tickets sold, i care about revenue. theater operators are a little in between....they are a bit more interested in number of tickets sold, as that translates to more popcorn revenue.

The Juggler

all time box office (actual tickets sold/not just total revenue):
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/ad ... r=1&p=.htm

Title (click to view) Studio Est. Tickets Unadjusted Gross Year^
1 Gone with the Wind MGM 202,044,600 $198,676,459 1939^
2 Star Wars Fox 178,119,600 $460,998,007 1977^
3 The Sound of Music Fox 142,415,400 $158,671,368 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. 141,854,300 $435,110,554 1982^
5 Titanic Par. 135,474,500 $658,672,302 1997^
6 The Ten Commandments Par. 131,000,000 $65,500,000 1956
7 Jaws Uni. 128,078,800 $260,000,000 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago MGM 124,135,500 $111,721,910 1965
9 The Exorcist WB 110,599,200 $232,906,145 1973^
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. 109,000,000 $184,925,486 1937^

The Juggler

81 wrote:

ticket prices this year are only up a penny.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

i agree, it's important to look at tickets sold.....but at the same time, you still need to look at revenue, since cash is king.

no. the point being argued is that less people are going to the movies, not how much revenue is being generated. nobody is arguing that revenue is down...

(and it's up $2.00 in just 10 years--a huge increase...that is why most of the highest grossing movies of all time have come out in the last decade despite less people seeing them)

The Juggler

The Juggler wrote:

all time box office (actual tickets sold/not just total revenue):
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/ad ... r=1&p=.htm

Title (click to view) Studio Est. Tickets Unadjusted Gross Year^
1 Gone with the Wind MGM 202,044,600 $198,676,459 1939^
2 Star Wars Fox 178,119,600 $460,998,007 1977^
3 The Sound of Music Fox 142,415,400 $158,671,368 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. 141,854,300 $435,110,554 1982^
5 Titanic Par. 135,474,500 $658,672,302 1997^
6 The Ten Commandments Par. 131,000,000 $65,500,000 1956
7 Jaws Uni. 128,078,800 $260,000,000 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago MGM 124,135,500 $111,721,910 1965
9 The Exorcist WB 110,599,200 $232,906,145 1973^
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. 109,000,000 $184,925,486 1937^

the avengers broke all kinds of box office records this year right? where does it rank all time on number of tickets sold?






.....27th.


this discussion has officially ended.

81

:fp:

$'s are $'s in hollywood.

if you had a popcorn stand, and could sell a million units at $1 each or 1 unit at $1,000,000....which would you choose :corn:

i project ticket sales will be up this year.

the average person still goes to the movies 4 times per year.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

:fp:

$'s are $'s in hollywood.

if you had a popcorn stand, and could sell a million units at $1 each or 1 unit at $1,000,000....which would you choose :corn:

i project ticket sales will be up this year.

the average person still goes to the movies 4 times per year.

hey i'm a capitalist too, my friend. you don't need to explain any of that to me.

my only point is that despite box office records, waaaaaaaaaaay less people are going out to the movies now compared to before. this is a fact and cannot be disputed.

81

The Juggler wrote:

81 wrote:

:fp:

$'s are $'s in hollywood.

if you had a popcorn stand, and could sell a million units at $1 each or 1 unit at $1,000,000....which would you choose :corn:

i project ticket sales will be up this year.

the average person still goes to the movies 4 times per year.

hey i'm a capitalist too, my friend. you don't need to explain any of that to me.

my only point is that despite box office records, waaaaaaaaaaay less people are going out to the movies now compared to before. this is a fact and cannot be disputed.

back on topic...the greatness of movies....

dimitrispearljam

just name a movie the last 10 years,than is better than Homeland..
no fuckin way

81

dimitrispearljam wrote:

just name a movie the last 10 years,than is better than Homeland..
no fuckin way

Inglourious Basterds
Grindhouse
The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo
No Country for old men
Sin City


just to name a few

and just for fun

PJ20

dimitrispearljam

81 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

just name a movie the last 10 years,than is better than Homeland..
no fuckin way

Inglourious Basterds
Grindhouse
The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo
No Country for old men
Sin City


just to name a few

and just for fun

PJ20

not even close with homeland....i guess u dont watch it..

and i take The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo answer as a joke ofcouse..

81

why would you take the girl with a dragon tat as a joke? very solid movie

dimitrispearljam

81 wrote:

why would you take the girl with a dragon tat as a joke? very solid movie

cos not even close of the level of No Country for old men or Inglourious Basterds

81

dimitrispearljam wrote:

81 wrote:

why would you take the girl with a dragon tat as a joke? very solid movie

cos not even close of the level of No Country for old men or Inglourious Basterds

i agree, and would put it behind those two, but i would also put it in my top 25 list of the past decade

Newch91

81 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

just name a movie the last 10 years,than is better than Homeland..
no fuckin way

Inglourious Basterds
Grindhouse
The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo
No Country for old men
Sin City


just to name a few

and just for fun

PJ20

Throw in "There Will Be Blood" and "The Departed"

The Juggler

dkr and lincoln were the only 2 "great" movies i can remember seeing this year. others were good (flight) but not what i would call great.

i'm in awe of the sunday night shows' greatness on a weekly basis.

homeland would sweep the oscars if it were a movie.

dimitrispearljam

The Juggler wrote:

homeland would sweep the oscars if it were a movie.

+1