TV Series - VS - Movies
dimitrispearljam
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i really enjoy tv shows away better..
there are amazing shows,as Lost-Dexter-JHmeland-Breaking Bad-Bing bang theory-Modern family and more
love to watch..the production is fantastic ,the stories awesome..
is like they are making the tv shows better than movies..feels like i have to watch a great movie years now..
there are amazing shows,as Lost-Dexter-JHmeland-Breaking Bad-Bing bang theory-Modern family and more
love to watch..the production is fantastic ,the stories awesome..
is like they are making the tv shows better than movies..feels like i have to watch a great movie years now..
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Dimi, if you want to check out a good show get on 'Misfits', It's a series from the UK, there's been three series so far. A bunch of juvenile offenders doing community service get stuck in a storm and come out of it with super powers, sounds lame but is brilliant, its a great show.
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im wastching Boss right now..like it alot
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I think its a combination of many things, but foremost is the talent of the writers on each show and series, and the talent of the actors involved, and in tv right now I dont think theres any question someone like Bryan Cranston or Jon Hamm or writers and creators like Matt Weiner and Vince Gilligan are bringing something to television that movies are sorely lacking.
I'd say the 8 episodes of Breaking Bad this season, were more entertaining and powerful than many any movie Ive seen in the last 10 months.
tons of good movies to choose from....tv's show's...mostly crap
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Agreed. But I might be a bit out of the loop, haven't really watched tv in almost 2 years now ...
i completely disagree. you check out the sets and budgets of Mad Men and Breaking Bad and Boardwalk. These shows have budgets of 2-3 million an episode. thats an insane amount of money. You can clearly see it when you watch Mad Men, all the clothes, sets, houses, everything is perfectly and specifically selected. I think thats been another big change in tv in the last decade. These shows The Sopranos, the Wire, BB, Mad Men not only have this unreal cast and crew but they also have the means ie money to make the story work. Boardwalk's pilot episode famously was made on a budget of 25 million. This is just obscene amounts of money.
Secondly, movies dont have time constraints. If anything you'd think it would be harder to come up with a fulfilling hour or 45 minutes thats compelling in tv format, as opposed to having 2 hours plus to do it in a film. Yet, time and time again, Mad Men and Breaking Bad specifically pulled it off. Every single of the 8 BB episodes this season are stories completely told in 45 minutes, and then add up to a larger whole. Each, in only 45 minutes, suck you in, make you care, challenge you, and then somehow make you want more.
I also disagree that budgets in tv goes mainly to cast. The year long, or was it more, break in between seasons of Mad Men was as Jon Hamm put it, "billionaires were fighting over money". He surely wasnt getting more money as a result. And take BB for instance. 2-3 million an episode budget. Id say the majority of the money goes to creation of this world that Walt inhabits. The beautiful and unparalleled cinematography, the insistence to make the show as accurate as possible meaning they actually do create physical labs that the real DEA instructs them on etc...
For me, theres no question. I love movies, always will, but tv surpassed films a long time ago. Its not even a controversial or debateable idea. It just is.
i dont agree. As far as major networks, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc... thats accurate. But in terms of AMC, HBO, Showtime and all those channels, you really think most studios are pumping out films that equal or surpass the quality of say Dead Freight, maybe the best episode of BB this past season?
I didn't say that TV shows have no production value, they just have a tighter budget to work with than movies do. It costs about 2.5 milion to make a 45 minute episode, so lets say 2 episodes equal a movie in length, they are spending 5 million, even the cheapest of movies (though I know there are exceptions) cost way more to make than that. The budget really shows up in shows that use special effects, they always look so much cheaper than what the films have, because they don't have the budget.
An obscene budget for a TV show is still tame compared to films. I don't know if productions are just too bloated or what, but they do cost much more to make.
tv shoes wasnt the same was 18 years ago...
every year there are 1-2 shows kick ass,,,and some there are already in 4-5 -6 seasons..
movies??cant remember when i saw the last top one..must be years ago
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that said, i dont think the weakness of Mad Men or Breaking Bad is that if only they had 100 million extra for the budget the show would be so amazing. I think its clear, they make do, more than make do with the 2.5 million they have.
BB had 8 episodes. And 45 minutes each episode. When watching those shows I wasnt wishing for anything more, they more than delivered. These shows, are of cinematic quality, and as I talked about before, it used to be considered less prestigious for an actor to be on tv versus being on film. Nowadays I think most stars and actors would love to be able to work with the quality of writers and crew that create shows like Mad Men
In fact, theres been rumors the final episode of BB will be a movie, and that idea isnt too popular among fans. It wouldnt and couldnt add anything that a regular AMC episode couldnt add. Having a bigger budget isnt a hindrance for these shows.
Indeed the budget (2.5 million) certainly is a plus but thats the whole point, they are able to create this film quality experience in just 45 minutes with a cast and crew that are the best in the buisness.
Budgets and time constraints arent issues. In terms of why tv is superior to film in 2012, I think we have to delve deeper than budgets.
i dont watch tv here at all..same as usa channels.or any other country.but i read reviews,see what tv show is new etc..
so then i downlaod them via torrent and watch them..
its easy for me this way,cos i dont have to be in tv specific day and hour,no need to wait for commercial to end,can take a break during the episode and continue later on..
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If anything, it would seem the Hollywood scene would be running to be involved with an HBO production as opposed to HBO crews leaving to go Hollywood. You see that time and time again, these stars begging to be involved with these shows.
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Movies have become mass produced, cookie cutter and unoriginal (for the most part)...
HBO, AMC, Showtime and the like have taken what was great in movies and incorporated them...
Now-a-days, its seems I'm far more excited for the # of TV programs/series, then movies...
Example:
I cannot wait for the Hobbit, Lincoln & Django Unchained - as far as movies in a theater go...and that's about it, really.
I cannot wait for Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Newsroom, Veep, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc...
I (personally) seem more excited about the quality programming on HBO, AMC then movies in recent years.
Growing up I couldn't wait for the Scorsese, Coen Bros, Tarantino releases - felt like a holiday!
Now, as you can see, these big timers are getting more and more involved with quality TV, documentaries for TV...
The HBO's and AMC's have changed the landscape and tilted it in favor of the boob tube. (IMO) Also, Netflix and PPV Movies have taken a little luster off the big screen. There seems to be way more of an attitude of "I'll wait for it to come on HBO, rent it, Netflix, etc..." then years ago...$$$ has some to do with it, but I'll be there opening day for Django, Hobbit and Lincoln - just like I was for Avengers. Regardless of price.
Great debate.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Homeland
Breaking Bad
Dexter
Mad Men
Game of Thrones
Treme
Walking dead
Its been years since i had 7 shows i considered must see TV
ABC NBC CBS and FOX still don't get it but those that do are takign avantage.Hell you are even seeing movie stars making apperances on TV shows now and that used to be kiss of death (Claire Danes, don Cheadle, Steve Buscemi, and others)
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i would disagree.
movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.
http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm
That's because prices are going up, but haven't the actual attendance numbers been down or steady?
they have been on a slight downward path. imax/3d/general inflation has contributed to total box office revenue being up.
http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm
don't see a ytd ticket comparison page
big jump in avg ticket prices was 09-10 when it jumped about 50 cents. over the last couple of years, they have only gone marginally
Personally, I'd rather save the money, and stay home and rent it on On Demand. (regular matinee movies cost the same as an On Demand movie now) I don't like being stuck in a dark room with a bunch of annoying people.
Most TV shows, have fan sites, forums, viewers go there, get all nerdy and talk about the show, what they like/dislike, I would bet that producers/writers frequent the forums, and adjust the show for fans. Not totally, but I'll bet they take suggestions into consideration ...movies, usually just get a one shot deal.
I will say though, I went to see one of those 'sneak previews' of a movie, and a few of the producers were mixed into the crowd to watch the audience's reactions and they edited the film accordingly. I never watched the 'official release' so I don't know what they changed.
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