TV Series - VS - Movies

dimitrispearljam

musicismylife78 has some great points

PJFAN13

The tides have turned on this debate...
Movies have become mass produced, cookie cutter and unoriginal (for the most part)...
HBO, AMC, Showtime and the like have taken what was great in movies and incorporated them...
Now-a-days, its seems I'm far more excited for the # of TV programs/series, then movies...

Example:
I cannot wait for the Hobbit, Lincoln & Django Unchained - as far as movies in a theater go...and that's about it, really.

I cannot wait for Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Newsroom, Veep, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc...

I (personally) seem more excited about the quality programming on HBO, AMC then movies in recent years.

Growing up I couldn't wait for the Scorsese, Coen Bros, Tarantino releases - felt like a holiday!
Now, as you can see, these big timers are getting more and more involved with quality TV, documentaries for TV...
The HBO's and AMC's have changed the landscape and tilted it in favor of the boob tube. (IMO) Also, Netflix and PPV Movies have taken a little luster off the big screen. There seems to be way more of an attitude of "I'll wait for it to come on HBO, rent it, Netflix, etc..." then years ago...$$$ has some to do with it, but I'll be there opening day for Django, Hobbit and Lincoln - just like I was for Avengers. Regardless of price.

Great debate.

dimitrispearljam

PJFAN13 wrote:

The tides have turned on this debate...
Movies have become mass produced, cookie cutter and unoriginal (for the most part)...
HBO, AMC, Showtime and the like have taken what was great in movies and incorporated them...
Now-a-days, its seems I'm far more excited for the # of TV programs/series, then movies...

Example:
I cannot wait for the Hobbit, Lincoln & Django Unchained - as far as movies in a theater go...and that's about it, really.

I cannot wait for Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Newsroom, Veep, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc...

I (personally) seem more excited about the quality programming on HBO, AMC then movies in recent years.

Growing up I couldn't wait for the Scorsese, Coen Bros, Tarantino releases - felt like a holiday!
Now, as you can see, these big timers are getting more and more involved with quality TV, documentaries for TV...
The HBO's and AMC's have changed the landscape and tilted it in favor of the boob tube. (IMO) Also, Netflix and PPV Movies have taken a little luster off the big screen. There seems to be way more of an attitude of "I'll wait for it to come on HBO, rent it, Netflix, etc..." then years ago...$$$ has some to do with it, but I'll be there opening day for Django, Hobbit and Lincoln - just like I was for Avengers. Regardless of price.

Great debate.

you are right..and btw,any news when Veep season 2 will come back???love the humor of this show!!

Heisenberg

Usually I would say movies, but lately, Hollywood has been so lame with what it's putting on the big screen that the small screen is kinda taking over. Right now I'd much rather watch Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom, etc. than most of the stuff coming out in the world of feature films.

dimitrispearljam

Heisenberg wrote:

Usually I would say movies, but lately, Hollywood has been so lame with what it's putting on the big screen that the small screen is kinda taking over. Right now I'd much rather watch Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom, etc. than most of the stuff coming out in the world of feature films.

i agree

intodeep

HBO, AMC, and Showtime are knocking it out of the park.

Homeland
Breaking Bad
Dexter
Mad Men
Game of Thrones
Treme
Walking dead

Its been years since i had 7 shows i considered must see TV

ABC NBC CBS and FOX still don't get it but those that do are takign avantage.Hell you are even seeing movie stars making apperances on TV shows now and that used to be kiss of death (Claire Danes, don Cheadle, Steve Buscemi, and others)

81

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think part of it has to do with the fact most people dont have the money to spend 10-15 bucks at the movies anymore, just as they dont have the income to buy albums.

i would disagree.

movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

Better Dan

81 wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think part of it has to do with the fact most people dont have the money to spend 10-15 bucks at the movies anymore, just as they dont have the income to buy albums.

i would disagree.

movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

That's because prices are going up, but haven't the actual attendance numbers been down or steady?

81

Better Dan wrote:

81 wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think part of it has to do with the fact most people dont have the money to spend 10-15 bucks at the movies anymore, just as they dont have the income to buy albums.

i would disagree.

movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

That's because prices are going up, but haven't the actual attendance numbers been down or steady?

they have been on a slight downward path. imax/3d/general inflation has contributed to total box office revenue being up.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

don't see a ytd ticket comparison page

big jump in avg ticket prices was 09-10 when it jumped about 50 cents. over the last couple of years, they have only gone marginally

RKCNDY

I have been disappointed in the last few movies I spent money on. Promethius was the last movie I saw, IMAX 3-D. It was
Personally, I'd rather save the money, and stay home and rent it on On Demand. (regular matinee movies cost the same as an On Demand movie now) I don't like being stuck in a dark room with a bunch of annoying people.


Most TV shows, have fan sites, forums, viewers go there, get all nerdy and talk about the show, what they like/dislike, I would bet that producers/writers frequent the forums, and adjust the show for fans. Not totally, but I'll bet they take suggestions into consideration ...movies, usually just get a one shot deal.

I will say though, I went to see one of those 'sneak previews' of a movie, and a few of the producers were mixed into the crowd to watch the audience's reactions and they edited the film accordingly. I never watched the 'official release' so I don't know what they changed.

JonnyPistachio

I was just wondering this yesterday.

81, good point on Pulp fiction. The best movies will always be better than most TV shows.
But lately, I have found that myself and many of my friends are seeing less movies because the people in the theaters simply suck donkey balls and are disrespectful. But that might just be south florida. :fp: Plus, TVs and home theaters are getting easier and more affordable. My new TV is slick.

But lately, I've found myself watching a lot of TV series on netflix. (I actually have rabbit ears on that slick 50 inch ) I like these tv shows because i've had less time lately, and its easier to watch a 45 minute episode of the walking dead. I was blown away by the production of that show too. The first zombie you see, cut in half and crawling along the road...That shit looked real. I was very surprised, as I thought it would be cheesy, but it wasnt.

I'm loving the production on Game of Thrones too.
Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Dexter, Treme...all good shows.

81

RKCNDY wrote:

I have been disappointed in the last few movies I spent money on. Promethius was the last movie I saw, IMAX 3-D. It was
Personally, I'd rather save the money, and stay home and rent it on On Demand. (regular matinee movies cost the same as an On Demand movie now) I don't like being stuck in a dark room with a bunch of annoying people.


Most TV shows, have fan sites, forums, viewers go there, get all nerdy and talk about the show, what they like/dislike, I would bet that producers/writers frequent the forums, and adjust the show for fans. Not totally, but I'll bet they take suggestions into consideration ...movies, usually just get a one shot deal.

I will say though, I went to see one of those 'sneak previews' of a movie, and a few of the producers were mixed into the crowd to watch the audience's reactions and they edited the film accordingly. I never watched the 'official release' so I don't know what they changed.

i've not seen an imax movie since something at cedar point 20 years ago.

never seen a 3d movie

i enjoy going to the theater and getting popcorn and sneaking in my soda

depending on the theater, i can do a mantinee for 5 bucks and catch a couple of movies.

81

JonnyPistachio wrote:

But lately, I have found that myself and many of my friends are seeing less movies because the people in the theaters simply suck donkey balls and are disrespectful. But that might just be south florida.

they can suck here too...

genearlly, most people are good about turning off phones and putting them away (my biggest pet peeve)

Mamasan23

I'm more of a TV series person. I don't watch a lot of TV really, but the shows I do watch I'm totally loyal to. Pretty much anything on HBO and if I had Showtime I'd be into those too. I think one of the main differences is that these premium channels are really starting to make some very thought-provoking and clever shows. They know they need the audience to come back. Movies coming out these days are regurgitated crap for the most part. So many remakes and the new stuff that is coming out is soooo predictable. They get these big blockbusters and the 3-d and Imax and all that to trick you into thinking they're feeding you something worth your time. Most of the time, sadly, it's not. And will Kevin James just stop? Please!

JonnyPistachio

81 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

But lately, I have found that myself and many of my friends are seeing less movies because the people in the theaters simply suck donkey balls and are disrespectful. But that might just be south florida.

they can suck here too...

genearlly, most people are good about turning off phones and putting them away (my biggest pet peeve)

I went to see a 11:30pm rated R comdey a few months back, and OF COURSE, as the movie is starting a couple trounces in and sits in the last remaining seats right next to me, with their 2-3 year old. That kid was running the aisles and yakking the whole movie. I asked her nicely if she could contain her child, and she got snappy with me. Just ridiculoouss. Howver, the theater gave me two free passes when I asked what their policy was on toddlers in R movies, so that was sweet.

Mamasan23 wrote:

And will Kevin James just stop? Please!

musicismylife78

i think 3d or IMAX when done well is worth it. Hugo in 3d was life changing. Such a beautiful film and so incredibly shot, this is why 3d was made in film. I never saw Avatar in 3d but I assume that was pretty epic. Although yes, nowadays nearly every big time movie is released in 3d. And i certainly dont have the money to see them in 3d so I usually opt to see any movie in regular.

Fewer people go see films in theaters nowadays. For one, its so incredibly expensive. This of course dovetails with 3d and IMAX because that increases the price of admission obviously. Ive found its way cheaper to just wait until the films come out on video, and Amazon for instance, alot of times sells/rents films for 2.99 or 3.99, way cheaper than most theaters

I just think the writers and creators who used to move to hollywood to try and make it in movies now are trying to worm their way into HBO and Showtime and IFC etc... Ed and Corin appearing in Portlandia is a great example. I dont think they would have appeared on just any old show, Portlandia is hilarious and on point.

I think it goes back to what I was saying, the budgets for these premium channels are enormous compared to an ABC or NBC production, and they have collected some of the greatest writers and crew in the buisness. They literally cant lose, and havent.

And i think if you monitor stuff like IMDB news, you will see alot of film industry people saying much the same thing. Soderbergh for example mulled retiring because of this very issue, why should he make films when the real talent seems to be in tv?

dimitrispearljam

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think 3d or IMAX when done well is worth it. Hugo in 3d was life changing. Such a beautiful film and so incredibly shot, this is why 3d was made in film. I never saw Avatar in 3d but I assume that was pretty epic. Although yes, nowadays nearly every big time movie is released in 3d. And i certainly dont have the money to see them in 3d so I usually opt to see any movie in regular.

Fewer people go see films in theaters nowadays. For one, its so incredibly expensive. This of course dovetails with 3d and IMAX because that increases the price of admission obviously. Ive found its way cheaper to just wait until the films come out on video, and Amazon for instance, alot of times sells/rents films for 2.99 or 3.99, way cheaper than most theaters

I just think the writers and creators who used to move to hollywood to try and make it in movies now are trying to worm their way into HBO and Showtime and IFC etc... Ed and Corin appearing in Portlandia is a great example. I dont think they would have appeared on just any old show, Portlandia is hilarious and on point.

I think it goes back to what I was saying, the budgets for these premium channels are enormous compared to an ABC or NBC production, and they have collected some of the greatest writers and crew in the buisness. They literally cant lose, and havent.

And i think if you monitor stuff like IMDB news, you will see alot of film industry people saying much the same thing. Soderbergh for example mulled retiring because of this very issue, why should he make films when the real talent seems to be in tv?

i really like to read your analysis

81

81 wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think part of it has to do with the fact most people dont have the money to spend 10-15 bucks at the movies anymore, just as they dont have the income to buy albums.

i would disagree.

movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

all time thanksgiving record this year....

now running 3.2% of the all time record year and 6.7% ahead of last year.

movies and theater expierence isn't quite dead yet.

and i'll still take a good movie over a tv series.

The Juggler

boardwalk, homeland, and dexter this year have all been better than most movies i have seen in recent years.

sunday night television in the fall is amazingly good.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

81 wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think part of it has to do with the fact most people dont have the money to spend 10-15 bucks at the movies anymore, just as they dont have the income to buy albums.

i would disagree.

movies are on pace to post thier best year ever at the box office.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2= ... ate&p=.htm

all time thanksgiving record this year....

now running 3.2% of the all time record year and 6.7% ahead of last year.

movies and theater expierence isn't quite dead yet.

and i'll still take a good movie over a tv series.

those numbers are misleading. it's because tickets cost more.